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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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need help on manual transmission remote start

I am going to attempt to do this sometime within the next week. Has anyone else tried to do this and can either lend a helping hand or give me some advice on how I should work mine? I know it could be dangerous because there are no safetys so please don't post the safety issue, just looking for helpful information. thanks -Ross
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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i have a remote start/pager alarm on my 5 speed max but i didnt hook up the remote start b/c of ppl sayin these safty reasons. i really want to get it hooked up if all goes well let me know how it works and how u did it. i would be glad for ur info thanx.
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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i work at circuit city, and i was just talking bout this same thing with my friends that install these on cars at my job. there is no problem on putting one of these on your 5 spd max, but just make sure you LEAVE YOUR TRANNY IN NEUTRAL! obviously that is a given. but just put in "N" and put your hand brake up and your good to go. let me know if this helps, or if you have any other questions.

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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Blkmax95c
i work at circuit city, and i was just talking bout this same thing with my friends that install these on cars at my job. there is no problem on putting one of these on your 5 spd max, but just make sure you LEAVE YOUR TRANNY IN NEUTRAL! obviously that is a given. but just put in "N" and put your hand brake up and your good to go. let me know if this helps, or if you have any other questions.

Chris
hey buddy can you talk to me regarding this? have you done this before? it sooo obvious to leave it in neutral, but im getting mine installed CC tomorrow and they ABSOULTELY REFUSE to do it, even off the premisis. have you ever installed on of these on a max? maybe you can help in leading me to the correct wires? thanks for any help you got! -Ross
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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it isn't that hard to wire it safely so that it wont start if left in gear

3rd and 4th gens maximas have a neutral sensor built into the tranny and it goes to the ECU
you can use this wire as an input (may need a relay or two) to the remote start unit if it has a hood input wire which most do. This input is normally so that the car wont start if the hood is open but you can use it for this. On the 3rd gen, you have to use a relay to reverse the polarity of the wire.

You'll also need to send a positive signal to the clutch wire so it thinks the clutch is pressed in while you're starting
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by «§»Craig B«§»
it isn't that hard to wire it safely so that it wont start if left in gear

3rd and 4th gens maximas have a neutral sensor built into the tranny and it goes to the ECU
you can use this wire as an input (may need a relay or two) to the remote start unit if it has a hood input wire which most do. This input is normally so that the car wont start if the hood is open but you can use it for this. On the 3rd gen, you have to use a relay to reverse the polarity of the wire.

You'll also need to send a positive signal to the clutch wire so it thinks the clutch is pressed in while you're starting
neutral sensor that goes to the tranny on the standard transmissions? do they really know if it is in neutral or not? a positive signal to the clutch wire eh? Maybe i will try to leech off of the acc. wire to satisfy that thirst. thanks for that input! should I connect the remote start to the wires that come right off the ignition? ( by ignition I mean the wires that come off of where you put the key in? or is there somewhere better then that.) thanks everyone for input soo far. this is what the .org is all about.
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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Yup there is a neutral sensor. It runs off the same switch that controls the backup lights.
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by ericdwong
Yup there is a neutral sensor. It runs off the same switch that controls the backup lights.

Ok, so what I will try to do is hook this up so that if the car is e-brake up and in neutral, the switch should give a + signal, when it is not in neutral it should give a negative signal, which would imitate an open hood. does the wire do this automatically??? and anyone know where this switch is, right on the tranny? I'll check my chilton book in the morning or when I go to attempt this.
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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Its some kind of modual you need if you want the auto start that senses if you are in neutral. One wire goes to the transmission and one goes to the gears. I just got my Viper 790xv yesterday and I have a 5-Speed. So he said the modual cost like $50.
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 01:26 AM
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i have the Viper 790 and i have remote start but its illegal and u just gotta know crooked people to get it installed
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by meccanoble
i have the Viper 790 and i have remote start but its illegal and u just gotta know crooked people to get it installed
introduce me to these people, you live close enough right? PA? NJ?
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 04:58 AM
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if i were you i wouldnt even get it installed.. those things just put wear and tear on ur engines since most of the oil is cold and in the bottom of the pan and cause ur cat to go out quicker than normal.. i've asked a lot of mechanics this question on whether or not to put a remote start on mine and they've told me i should wait 20 seconds to a minute tops before starting to drive off.. driving lets ur car warm up quicker then just letting it sit there.. just make sure u don't take ur car above 3000 rpm's until the temp gauge needle gets to at least 1/4.. just my $.02 and what i've been told..
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 05:15 AM
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wait wait wait... I went to a local shop and they said that you shut the ignition off with the car in Neutral and ebrake up. The motor won't turn off until you get OUT of the car and shut the doors. Then you hit the Arm button on the starter and it shuts your car off. This way there can be no possibility that you leave it in gear and remotely shut the car off.

Now when you come back to start it, you know for a fact it is in Neutral. And if you didn't remotely deactivate it, it won't start up b/c it could be in gear.

I forget the name of this alarm/starter, but if I think of it, I'll let ya know.
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by «§»Craig B«§»
it isn't that hard to wire it safely so that it wont start if left in gear

3rd and 4th gens maximas have a neutral sensor built into the tranny and it goes to the ECU
you can use this wire as an input (may need a relay or two) to the remote start unit if it has a hood input wire which most do. This input is normally so that the car wont start if the hood is open but you can use it for this. On the 3rd gen, you have to use a relay to reverse the polarity of the wire.

You'll also need to send a positive signal to the clutch wire so it thinks the clutch is pressed in while you're starting
On a 4th gen you have to send ground to the clutch
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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On a 4th gen you have to send ground to the clutch
thanks Del. you good with ignition? I should pay you some cash to hook up mine or at least to help me out. :-P
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 07:34 PM
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RS

I'm not sure about the Maxima's but look above your clutch pedal. There may be some wires/plug that go to a switch/button that presses against the clutch pedal when you engage the clutch. Install the RS and unplug the plug at the clutch. The car will always start without pushing the clutch in.

This is how I've done Eclipse but I advise you not to install the RS. Your car will drive away if left in gear. Maybe through a house, a store, or over some kid.
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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Re: RS

Originally posted by C3nthusiast
I'm not sure about the Maxima's but look above your clutch pedal. There may be some wires/plug that go to a switch/button that presses against the clutch pedal when you engage the clutch. Install the RS and unplug the plug at the clutch. The car will always start without pushing the clutch in.

This is how I've done Eclipse but I advise you not to install the RS. Your car will drive away if left in gear. Maybe through a house, a store, or over some kid.
I already understand the reason why it doesn't get officially installed, but as it stands I NEVER park in gear. and if I was to get this working properly I would like to work on some sort of safety switch for those wonderful JUST IN CASE situations...like someone else parks my car.
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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so the cold has finally gotten to you eh? .... hang in there, hey if you need an FSM i have one, but obviously its for a 98-99 ... but if it helps your welcome to it... im sure you have a solderin iron too, but i got one of those layin around .... find a garage and lets do this
Old Feb 15, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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Never keep your car in gear when remote starting, it will go for a second and then die cause of no clutch.
Old Feb 15, 2003 | 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by cscm094
wait wait wait... I went to a local shop and they said that you shut the ignition off with the car in Neutral and ebrake up. The motor won't turn off until you get OUT of the car and shut the doors. Then you hit the Arm button on the starter and it shuts your car off. This way there can be no possibility that you leave it in gear and remotely shut the car off.

Now when you come back to start it, you know for a fact it is in Neutral. And if you didn't remotely deactivate it, it won't start up b/c it could be in gear.

I forget the name of this alarm/starter, but if I think of it, I'll let ya know.
I also know someone with remote start set-up like this. Absolutely no way it will try to work with the car in gear. I just need to find out what brand his is, so I can get one.

This seems to be the best possible way to do it, since it won't engage unless you get out and arm the system with the engine running.
Old Feb 15, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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Remote start

There is a company that has this device thats similar to a turbo timer. It allows the car to start only if the car was allowed to run after exiting it. Basically your car must be in neutral in order for it to continue running after you leave the car.
Old Feb 15, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by Stillnmax
so the cold has finally gotten to you eh? .... hang in there, hey if you need an FSM i have one, but obviously its for a 98-99 ... but if it helps your welcome to it... im sure you have a solderin iron too, but i got one of those layin around .... find a garage and lets do this
maybe sometime this week? Delio could come up and join us, HINT HINT. :P
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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got the RS working

damn, that took around 6 hours to figure out.....the main thing you need to know when hooking up a remote start to our cars is that we have to wires that REQUIRE receiving a start signal. took me 4 hours to figure that out alone. other then that I need to look into hooking up any sort of safety's cause their are none on there now. Any's q's just ask.
Old Feb 19, 2003 | 12:02 AM
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Re: got the RS working

Originally posted by rguida
damn, that took around 6 hours to figure out.....the main thing you need to know when hooking up a remote start to our cars is that we have to wires that REQUIRE receiving a start signal. took me 4 hours to figure that out alone. other then that I need to look into hooking up any sort of safety's cause their are none on there now. Any's q's just ask.
Our cars have two starter wires (cold start). Under extreme cold the car may not start unless this wire is energized.
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