4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999) Visit the 4th Generation forum to ask specific questions or find out more about the 4th Generation Maxima.

Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:48 PM
  #1  
96shogunmax's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,438
Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Ok I have the sprint springs in my room. I just want to know if anybody thinks it will be too low. The setup now is pretty low, but its no problem for my area. Pics are at night, blurry , dirty , and its been raining so please overlook. Thanks. **I dont want any lecturing about how sprints are bad. So if thats what you are going to say, just hit your back button.


Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:50 PM
  #2  
96shogunmax's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,438
Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:51 PM
  #3  
96shogunmax's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,438
Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:57 PM
  #4  
meccanoble's Avatar
Sports Button FTW
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9,291
From: NJ
This car is WAYYY TOO LOW, well way too low for me being the area i drive. Shogun has maxspeeds with a coil cut in the front and the back. I have sprints and they look very similar to this drop (thats why i dont want to get a kit), but i think this is low enough. If anything, if it were me, i would put the sprints on in hope that it would make the car a little higher . But i know u like a heavy drop and i think this is low enough, if not too low
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:01 PM
  #5  
Jason R's Avatar
aka UNCDooD
iTrader: (39)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 10,239
From: Aylett, VA
lower is better my friend. well in some cases that is. and 19's on a max with a little bit of tire tuckin in the fender or maybe even some rim tuckin in there is just straight sick. put the sprints on and maybe it'll be a little bit lower but hopefully not too much.
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:25 PM
  #6  
Supa Lao's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 2,061
I would go w/ the sprints. Had sprints w/ the stillen lip and ionic sides and rear and I didn't think the car was that low.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:48 AM
  #7  
njmaxseltd's Avatar
Member who somehow became The President of The SE-L Club
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 16,024
Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Originally posted by 96shogunmax
That car has little or no suspension travel.

How can it possibly drive correctly?

Lower is not better, you need to have suspension travel to handle correctly. Once you go beyond the point of shock travel, there's nothing to absorb road irregularities. Thats what your suspension is supposed to do - absorb road irregularities and maintain a stable ride while keeping the tire firmly planted on the ground.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 07:08 AM
  #8  
Max4Speed's Avatar
www.autotalk.com
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,865
From: Atlanta, GA
Re: Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Originally posted by njmaxseltd


That car has little or no suspension travel.

How can it possibly drive correctly?

Lower is not better, you need to have suspension travel to handle correctly. Once you go beyond the point of shock travel, there's nothing to absorb road irregularities. Thats what your suspension is supposed to do - absorb road irregularities and maintain a stable ride while keeping the tire firmly planted on the ground.

I can deal with road irregularities but CANT deal with that huge fender gap
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 08:03 AM
  #9  
Dave B's Avatar
Not DAVEB the parts guy
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,549
Re: Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Originally posted by njmaxseltd


That car has little or no suspension travel.

How can it possibly drive correctly?

Lower is not better, you need to have suspension travel to handle correctly. Once you go beyond the point of shock travel, there's nothing to absorb road irregularities. Thats what your suspension is supposed to do - absorb road irregularities and maintain a stable ride while keeping the tire firmly planted on the ground.
Amen.

It blows me away that people are willing to compromise their safety and others in order to get a "sick" looking drop. No suspension travel means a potential loss of control when you least expect it.

Yes, I think that drop is way too low. I've venture to say you're probably within .1" of the bumpstop assuming you cut it. If not, you're riding on the bumpstop right now.


Dave
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 08:09 AM
  #10  
Triocet's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 138
i think that height is good enough, it looks nice and it has some travel, if you lower it any more it might look a little rice'ish, but in the end, it's your car.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 08:13 AM
  #11  
Max4Speed's Avatar
www.autotalk.com
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,865
From: Atlanta, GA
Back to the question, I think its a good enough drop and no need for sprints.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:01 AM
  #12  
96shogunmax's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,438
Re: Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Originally posted by njmaxseltd


That car has little or no suspension travel.

How can it possibly drive correctly?

Lower is not better, you need to have suspension travel to handle correctly. Once you go beyond the point of shock travel, there's nothing to absorb road irregularities. Thats what your suspension is supposed to do - absorb road irregularities and maintain a stable ride while keeping the tire firmly planted on the ground.

Originally posted by Dave B

Amen.

It blows me away that people are willing to compromise their safety and others in order to get a "sick" looking drop. No suspension travel means a potential loss of control when you least expect it.

Yes, I think that drop is way too low. I've venture to say you're probably within .1" of the bumpstop assuming you cut it. If not, you're riding on the bumpstop right now.


Dave


-OFF TOPIC- (Please read the title of the thread)
I didnt ask for safty opinions. All I asked is would you stay with the drop in the pics or put the sprints on. I dont want H&Rs so stop promoting them. I like my car the way it is and I dont mind the ride. I have the sprints in my room and I just wanted to see if it would be to low with the body kit. -Take Care-
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:04 AM
  #13  
johnvt1111's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,044
Re: Re: Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Originally posted by 96shogunmax







I didnt ask for safty opinions. All I asked is would you stay with the drop in the pics or put the sprints on. I dont want H&Rs so stop promoting them. I like my car the way it is and I dont mind the ride. I have the sprints in my room and I just wanted to see if it would be to low with the body kit. -Take Care-
sounds like an attempted opinion question to me
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:12 AM
  #14  
BigJuice's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 359
Re: Re: Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Max4Speed



I can deal with road irregularities but CANT deal with that huge fender gap
[/QUOTE

Well, in that case what about getting some bigger rims, or tires. Are those 17 inch wheels you have there? Then you will have a huge wheel gap so my suggestion is go up to some 18s, or even 19 (my preference )

That way you won't look like the local rice Honduh with a ride dragging all over the streets, have little wheel gap and a decent ride.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:24 AM
  #15  
96shogunmax's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,438
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Originally posted by johnvt1111


sounds like an attempted opinion question to me


Might be, but thats not what I asked. When you put springs on you loose suspension travel anyways. So if you got 1.6 inch drop springs or 2.0 inch. That 0.4 is nothing to worry about. Overlooking all this. Here is a few more pics in the daylight
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:26 AM
  #16  
maxfanfromohio's Avatar
Shiver me timbers.
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,480
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

I think it looks real nice the way it is. Why mess with success?





Originally posted by 96shogunmax




Might be, but thats not what I asked. When you put springs on you loose suspension travel anyways. So if you got 1.6 inch drop springs or 2.0 inch. That 0.4 is nothing to worry about. Overlooking all this. Here is a few more pics in the daylight
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:27 AM
  #17  
Triocet's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 138
it looks great like this, dont bother with anymore.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:28 AM
  #18  
96shogunmax's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,438
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Originally posted by BigJuice


Well, in that case what about getting some bigger rims, or tires. Are those 17 inch wheels you have there? Then you will have a huge wheel gap so my suggestion is go up to some 18s, or even 19 (my preference )

That way you won't look like the local rice Honduh with a ride dragging all over the streets, have little wheel gap and a decent ride. [/B]

This is not referring to me. Hope not. These are 19s on my car.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:39 AM
  #19  
meccanoble's Avatar
Sports Button FTW
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9,291
From: NJ
omg, first shot i saw in the daytime, bro, your car is hot man. DAM!, that drop is PErFECT. The sides and back are high enough for me to be happy wit a kit but that dam front...i dont think i can get away wit it...scraping
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:47 AM
  #20  
96shogunmax's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,438
Originally posted by Supa Lao
I would go w/ the sprints. Had sprints w/ the stillen lip and ionic sides and rear and I didn't think the car was that low.

Do you still have sprints on with the body kit? If you do could you measure the middle of the lip to the ground for me. Thanks.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:52 AM
  #21  
Supa Lao's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 2,061
Originally posted by 96shogunmax
Do you still have sprints on with the body kit? If you do could you measure the middle of the lip to the ground for me. Thanks.
Sorry, I don't have the front lip anymore. I sold it. I have the type-s on the car now
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:03 AM
  #22  
iansw's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,936
From: Puyallup WA
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Originally posted by 96shogunmax




Might be, but thats not what I asked. When you put springs on you loose suspension travel anyways. So if you got 1.6 inch drop springs or 2.0 inch. That 0.4 is nothing to worry about. Overlooking all this. Here is a few more pics in the daylight
Dude - you asked the question, and then almost sound like you're going to go with Sprints no matter what anyone says.

I've been telling you for a month now:

1) Your drop looks close to too low as it is
2) With Sprints, It's unsafe
3) If you hit your bumpstops too much, goodbye axles
4) No matter what with the Sprints - goodbye body kit
5) That .4 inches makes a TON of difference - I know - I went from Sprints to B&G's - HUGE difference.

You don't want to hear what people think, but you ask them what they think...WTF?
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:10 AM
  #23  
gimpatron's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 144
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Originally posted by 96shogunmax



This is not referring to me. Hope not. These are 19s on my car.
Those sure don't look like 19's... I'd go with sprints just so you can scratch your bumper then realize you've had it too low all along.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 12:47 PM
  #24  
Flava_24/7's Avatar
Boosted Panda
iTrader: (46)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 8,475
From: Austin TX
By looking at that drop thats low enough. Sprints will not drop you any lower. I cant believe that with that drop your car rides fine. It looks like you would be hitting the bumpstops all the time.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 01:16 PM
  #25  
96shogunmax's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,438
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Originally posted by iansw


Dude - you asked the question, and then almost sound like you're going to go with Sprints no matter what anyone says.

I've been telling you for a month now:

1) Your drop looks close to too low as it is
2) With Sprints, It's unsafe
3) If you hit your bumpstops too much, goodbye axles
4) No matter what with the Sprints - goodbye body kit
5) That .4 inches makes a TON of difference - I know - I went from Sprints to B&G's - HUGE difference.

You don't want to hear what people think, but you ask them what they think...WTF?

Should I put the sprints on or stay with this? - this is the topic. Also in the first thread I wrote , I said I didnt want to hear any lecturing about sprints. I just wanted to know if it will be to low with the kit or if I should stick with what I got. That is all. B&Gs have a saggy *** as you know.

Old Feb 17, 2003 | 01:59 PM
  #26  
meccanoble's Avatar
Sports Button FTW
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9,291
From: NJ
i just accurately measured my car to the best of my ability.

I have 17" rims with 225/45/17 tires

the back of my car is roughly 8.5-9 inches off the ground

the middle of my car is 7-8 inches of the car

the front is 6.5-7 inches off the ground

u told me this kit roughly adds 2" to the car. thats 4" of clearance, i dont think a body kit would handle it for me, but you wont be the first to have a maxima with sprints and body kit. You should talk to MaximaRider aim: topdawg196. he has the same setup you are THINKING of getting. stillen body kit with sprints, but 17 or 18" rims. As far as scraping the only thing everyone is worried about wit sprints is the front. I think your car is low enough but if u want an idea of how low it will be with sprints, i guess u can compare to my measurements....
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 02:05 PM
  #27  
BigJuice's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 359
Man, those 19s look real small to me. Anyway, the car looks fine as it is IMHO. It seems to me the consensus here is to keep what you have and forget the Sprints (someone will buy them).

In the end its your decision and you don't seem satisfied with the way it looks. Hopefully, we convinced you to leave it the way it is because you did ask of our opinion. If you do decide to change, well, Good Luck with the new drop
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 02:55 PM
  #28  
johnvt1111's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,044
if you have cut maxspeed springs, they are prolly just as low if not lower than the sprints, i'd put the springs on i think, they would prolly fit alittle better since you didn't modify the spring
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 11:23 PM
  #29  
96shogunmax's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,438
Originally posted by meccanoble
i just accurately measured my car to the best of my ability.

I have 17" rims with 225/45/17 tires

the back of my car is roughly 8.5-9 inches off the ground

the middle of my car is 7-8 inches of the car

the front is 6.5-7 inches off the ground

u told me this kit roughly adds 2" to the car. thats 4" of clearance, i dont think a body kit would handle it for me, but you wont be the first to have a maxima with sprints and body kit. You should talk to MaximaRider aim: topdawg196. he has the same setup you are THINKING of getting. stillen body kit with sprints, but 17 or 18" rims. As far as scraping the only thing everyone is worried about wit sprints is the front. I think your car is low enough but if u want an idea of how low it will be with sprints, i guess u can compare to my measurements....


My front. It might not be this low the car was at a slight angle. But I would say between 5-6 inches
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 04:21 AM
  #30  
JAY25's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (38)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 6,451
From: Near Archer High School, Ga
what the hell you waiting on christmas? put them sprints on. Do not listen to the sprint hype. You have smooth roads in your area enjoy.

If I lived in a pothole filled enviroment I would still tell you to put sprints on.
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 04:59 AM
  #31  
Sprint's Avatar
Administrator
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,943
if those are cut maxspeeds.. they are lower than sprints...

and to the old boys preaching about lowering
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 05:37 AM
  #32  
johnvt1111's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,044
Originally posted by johnvt1111
if you have cut maxspeed springs, they are prolly just as low if not lower than the sprints, i'd put the springs on i think, they would prolly fit alittle better since you didn't modify the spring
hey sprint, read the threat..........hehe got you back
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 05:53 AM
  #33  
Sprint's Avatar
Administrator
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,943
Originally posted by johnvt1111


hey sprint, read the threat..........hehe got you back
where do you think i got the idea that he had cut maxspeeds? he doesn't mention it in the thread

nice try though *pat on the back*
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 07:59 AM
  #34  
96shogunmax's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,438
Originally posted by JAY25
what the hell you waiting on christmas? put them sprints on. Do not listen to the sprint hype. You have smooth roads in your area enjoy.

If I lived in a pothole filled enviroment I would still tell you to put sprints on.

I talked to one guy (MaximaRider) and he said his front lip is like 4 inchs from the ground, so its not a big difference. They will be going on.
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 08:29 AM
  #35  
99Maxima5sp's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,748
i cant imagine how you guys like your cars all slammed like that. I did that to my last car and it had far less gap, it was right on the tire, and it rode shiiiiity! It felt so good going to the Max's plushy ride after and i cant imagine giving it up. How about Airbags? Do they ride bad? I may be interested in those since i do like the slammed look, just not the ride.

Also, just put the sprints on, its not like its hard to just swap them back out. Also, are your sprints brand new? Becuase obviuously if they are, and your car stays at the same height when you put them on, it will just get lower as they settle, but i know you know that...


eric
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 08:44 AM
  #36  
Wall's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15
Man I wouldn't touch that car ,it looks awesome like it is. What kind of wheels are those?
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 12:22 PM
  #37  
96shogunmax's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,438
Originally posted by Wall
Man I wouldn't touch that car ,it looks awesome like it is. What kind of wheels are those?
19 RH C5's
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 12:33 PM
  #38  
johnvt1111's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,044
Originally posted by SprintMax


where do you think i got the idea that he had cut maxspeeds? he doesn't mention it in the thread

nice try though *pat on the back*
I don't think you mean nice try, more like thank you....swan
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 12:42 PM
  #39  
RR95SE's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 218
Originally posted by 99Maxima5sp
i cant imagine how you guys like your cars all slammed like that. I did that to my last car and it had far less gap, it was right on the tire, and it rode shiiiiity! It felt so good going to the Max's plushy ride after and i cant imagine giving it up. How about Airbags? Do they ride bad? I may be interested in those since i do like the slammed look, just not the ride.

Also, just put the sprints on, its not like its hard to just swap them back out. Also, are your sprints brand new? Becuase obviuously if they are, and your car stays at the same height when you put them on, it will just get lower as they settle, but i know you know that...


eric
If you like your plushy ride, you won't like airbags. They don't ride as bad as cut springs, but they don't ride as good as my Eibachs did.

96shogunmax, the car looks good like it is.
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 12:53 PM
  #40  
Dave B's Avatar
Not DAVEB the parts guy
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,549
Re: Should I put the sprints on or stay with this?

Originally posted by 96shogunmax
**I dont want any lecturing about how sprints are bad. So if thats what you are going to say, just hit your back button.
Why don't you reread you're original post? I didn't say anything about Sprint's now did I?

Your drop is too low. The factory suspension have about 3" of upward travel. Now you've got about .5". You do the math. Just don't act suprised when you hit a .75" bump in the road on a rainy day and wonder why you went into the ditch tail first.


Dave



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:50 AM.