when i race i take 1st and 2nd gear to redline and shift as fast as i can i dump the clutch everytime and dont do that powershifting stuff (i dont want to buy a new clutch) ... am i doing it right ....

 

Once you get to the "redline part" you're losing power from there on... That's why it's good to shift just before the redline. As far as shifting goes.. depends on who you talk to for the defenition of powershifting. Some will say simply, never letting your foot off the gas when you shift (that's what I do). I've heard some ridiculous (who knows if it works) shifting from first to second without using the clutch at all... and from 2nd to the rest of the gears using the clutch. (personally I would never try that...)
As far as shifting without letting your foot off is the best way I know of...that's why it's called power shifting..
IMHO... Get a performance clutch..

 

but i dont like powershifting it fells like im tearing somthing up and im not going to get a performance clutch until the one i got goes out .... so i come back to my original question. what is the best way to shift without powershifting and does it help that i can shift real fast

 

The best way to shift really quick without powershifting is practice. You can still get some reputable shifts from 1-2 w/o powershifting and without grannyshifting but you will have to practice. Drive normally and try to make your shifts quicker by driving normally buy just changing your shifting technique.

Start pulling the shifter to the next gear just before you hit the clutch then get the next gear and smoothly let out the clutch. Try to make it a fluid motion that is a smooth transition between gears but not snappy (like powershifting). Find out what happens when you shift at different RPM to find out how your car reacts to different throttle positions when shifting. Pay attention to how fast you let out the clutch to find a happy median between all out performance and comfort. This will help you figure out what type of throttle position you can to go into the next gear without it being a harsh transition.

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Powershifting uses full throttle when shifting inb/t gears. So when you are doing the 1-2 shif while powershifting your RPM will climb and you will quickly snap(push in and let out very quickly- motion like playschool double-dutch jumprope) your clutch to shift gear. What happens is that you do get a quick shift but you lose some time from the wheelspin that occurs from this extremely quick shift. Powershifting is generally better suited for 2-3 shift (depends, sometimes people can also spin this shift), but definately for the 3-4 shift. You will never lose time when you powershift 3-4. It just depends on how comfortable you feel doing it.

If you practice shifting slowly you will avoid the wheelspin that you experience in the 1-2 shift. Just practice shifting faster at normal speeds. You will begin to see where you can get a quicker shift observing how you shift.

A short throw shifter could help lessen shifter travel to grab the gears sooner.

Hope that helps. Go out and give it a try.

 

Don't power shift. Your clutch will slip. You'll get better times with *fast* lift-throttle shifts. Start your upshifts at about 6,100 RPMs. Drive your car like you rent it!

 

my freind shifts with out using the clutch. He thinks hes the **** because he knows how. I would never try

 

I have only been successful doing this once. And that was on my TransAm 6spd. You have to make the rpms and drivetrain match EXACTLY or it will grind. Like I said, its hard to do.

 

My 1994 Tempo could be shifted w/o clutch. That thing was wicked fast...j/k

 

he owned a pontiac too.

 

Yeah I got slapped for doing that too...what a waste.

 

Practise - a lot. Timing is everything. Shifting is a skill, and the more you do it the better you'll get.

 

It really cant be good for the car.

 

Heck, I powershift all the time!

 

Shifting w/o the clutch really isn't that hard to do. Double clutching comes in handy if for some reason you can't get into a gear, and it also lets you learn about your car When you are driving rev to like 5 then shift like normal and watch where your rpms level out to. If I remember correctly 3rd gear is right around 2800-3000 rpms and 4th is 2300 rpms or so.
-hype

 

For what it's worth:

I read in another thread that you have about 15K miles on your car/clutch now. Go ahead! Enjoy your power-shifting orgy... While it lasts. You may want to start your payroll savings plan now, to finance your new clutch, flywheel, and tranny when the OEM parts fail. Tick-tick-tick-tick-tick...

Good luck.

 

I understand your point of view I probably embellished the story a bit. I dont powershift at every opporunity.

That being said, I wont have this car much longer. The new WRX has caught my eye.