I was on my way to a club in Chicago on Saturday. My girl and I are just crusin and minding our own business, when this white 350Z pulls up next to me and he wants to go at it. We mess around for few minutes and I get ahead of him. Then the left lane clears and I shift to second and punch it (I am an auto by the way and love the way u can change gears in auto max and the sound of my frnaken) He does the same. I was about 2 1/2 cars ahead of him when i punched it and we went from 50 to 100 and he never cought up to me. I really thought that those cars were faster, and he probably didnt expect the max to give him that big of a challenge.

 

No big surprise here

 

Bringing girlfriend to club = bringing sand to the beach

j/k

I thought about the 350z too. It doesn't have that much more power to allow it to completely smoke the Max. Especially if the guy wasn't really good with the car. I would only get one if they put a twin turbo in it!

 

Maybe a possible offer for next year?

 

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by spta97
[B]Bringing girlfriend to club = bringing sand to the beach

j/k

I know I know, but u know how it is, sometimes u go without her (have fun with your boys, pick up chicks) and sometimes u have to go with her (suffer all night).
If it was up to me I would go alone every weekend

 

twin turbos and AWD would make the 350z a true driving machine but then again would prob also add $15k to the price which would make the 350z cost prohibitive..

 

Seriously though...isn't that the way the demise started for the 300? Turbo's, etc. jacked the price up to where it was not affordable compared to other cars.

 

That's a good point. If it gets to high I would probably look at an M3 or comparable. I don't know, if I get a sports car it has to have 300 + HP or I won't consider it. The problem is by the time you are able to afford one you can't have one (cause of wife or kids) or the ride is too rough for you. Man, getting old sucks!

 

And again, AWD its just not the "Z" style. A "Z" its known for its RWD.

Turbo VQ engine would probably go in the next Gen Skyline GTR w/AWD.

 

i beg to differ,
My bet is that the new skyline will have the q45 engine. Why would they waste time designing a turbo setup when the q45 is already there.
I hope i'm wrong though...

 

I doubt it...I think it is a vq33det. They always look for a small 6 cylinder engine, so 1. it can join different classes of race. 2. reduce its weight, AWD already adds quite a lot of weight to the front.

 

I would almost bet money that it will be a VQ35DETT. There is no reason for them to downsize the engine.

 

I thought that I just point out two reasons


I think skyline and 350z uses VQ35 because they dont have to worry about extra weight from AWD.

 

If you drove one you'd know what's so impressive about it.

 

I didnt so I guess I cant say, but I can imagine it probably drives a lil better than the max and handles better too, but which car doesnt

 

honestly though, if u own a 2k2... would u really want the 350z that bad??? performance to performance back to back, versus the investment, consensus please?

 

no. except that my friends think just by looking at a 350z that it will completely smoke me which is not true.

 

While it's true that 300 hp is nice, it's not necessarily mandatory to have them for great performance As for getting old, sure it's highly overated... But don't make the mistake of thinking you can't enjoy cool cars then... You should try my EVO VIII. Stiff ride and all it is a blast and I don't mind it at all Oh yeah, I enjoy the 03 MAxima SE too. I got it with the 6 speed and the limited diff too... sure, it's a little firmer than a cushy luxury sedan, but by no means uncomfortable. I love the ride, the poer and the Bose sound system too....

 

I agree with that. I test drove a race type 350Z and it was very impressive. Granted, my wifes 03 Maxima SE is no slouch, but the Z definitely feels like a much more powerful car. Also, the handling is totally different.... I would not trade the Max for the Z because it just isn't practical and I think it's overpriced....
I'll keep the Max for comfort, performance and overall practicality. For all out fun and performance I traded in my WRX for an EVO VIII

Manuel

 

I'd wait for the STI WRX w/ 6spd.

 

No way.... The EVO is here and $ for $ it will be every bit as good as the STi or even better. Sure the STi will be a very nice car, no doubt about it... But the EVO definitely rocks Try driving one and then you'll see...

Oh yeah, one of the few regrets I have of the Max is the 6 speed tranny... I thought it would be so cool and more fun to drive, etc.. In truth, it's one speed too many for me. A well matched 5 speed would have been preferable I think (or even the auto..)
With the EVO, it's got so much torque at 3K rpm (70 mph in 5th) that it feels like it needs another overdrive... but everytime I find myself wishing for that extra speed, I think of the Max and it's seldom used 6thg gear.....

And BTW, the handling of the EVO appears to be sharper and better than the Track 350Z that I drove! The STi will have to be quite good to make me wish I had waited...

 

The STi will be at or over 300 HP, and at a similar price to the EVO (probably a tad more expensive). They boosted the STi's HP shortly after the US release of the EVO Sucks, huh? To be fair, they both really kick a$$. Great drivers cars.

 

I have both and the Z is only slightly more powerful, to us its not that much to be noticed only in the handling!

 

Actually, the primary demise of the 300 ZXtt was that the Yen was stronger than the Dollar, and the market for the 300Z was saturated with other performance cars of similar stature. It's still a great car, if you can find one that's been taken care of.

 

Actually, the STi was always advertised at 300 hp long before the EVO was available for sale. I actually wanted an STi and was all pumped up for it but the dealer were I got my WRX did all they could to turn me off and actually succeeded I still would have waited for the STi but when I saw the EVO VIII, I wanted it on the spot. I know the specs of both cars very well and I know the actual EVO very personally so like I said, the STi will be very good no doubt, but the EVO is still way cool and very, very high performance. I was actually seriously considering a 350Z or the Infinity G35 coupe. Both are seriously good cars and they have their own strengths. The thing that made me go with the EVO was a combination of real, uncompromised performance, actual 4 door practicality at a very affordable price. Including the excellent trade in that I was offered for my WRX and the *below* MSRP price, the EVO was many thousands of dollars ($5K - $7K) less than either the Z or the G35. Those crazy dealers are just too proud of their cars or they really can get all they ask for them...

I guess I'm lucky, I've a 03 Maxima SE w/ 6 speed, LSD, leather, titanium package and all *plus* the EVO...

 

The two serious bang for the buck RWD performance cars...

2003 350Z/G35C
2003 MSVT Cobra

 

Yes indeed you are lucky. I like the new Evo and WRX and was going to get one because of boost and nasty off the line performance however AWD and highway performance do not mix and that is the only thing holding me back (not taking anything away from your EVO it is awesome and I bet it fits your goals); watch out for those RSX-S on the highway, here is a vid of a RSX-S against a new Evo VIII, the RSX has two people, the evo has three, enjoy.

http://home.attbi.com/~rsx2/evovsrsxmovie.wmv

Have you raced the max vs evo yet or are you still breaking it in, that would be an interesting race on the highway.

I have figured that I will get this as my next vehicle, this is it racing against a supercharged 01 cobra

http://www.dijital-underground.com/~...amaha%20R6.WMV

You have two very awesome cars, congrats!!!!!!!

 

Always remember though that the 350 can do somthing that the max can never do, unless you put more money than you should in a max

http://home.attbi.com/~rsx4/zfool_1.wmv


and another one showing the amazing ballance of the 350 when a good driver is behind the wheel

http://www.350zforum.com/media//vids/misc/AX1.mpg

 

The Z is a sick car, just check out my post in the OT section http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=206743

I've never driven a Z, but from what I've read and heard its a dream. Sure its small and only seats 2, but its a sports car. It has 32 more HP at the crank, (02-03 models) is lighter, and handles SOO much better than the Max. RWD =

 

Man, what are you smoking? One of the dealers I went to check out the Z offered me a deal of a lifetime (heavy sarcasm here), 14K for my WRX and $35K for a track model that the sales manager had leather seats put in and driven 3500 miles! As far as competing, what do you mean? Performance, features, fun of driving, looks? I mean, get a grip, the Z is a very nice car but it's not any better equipped than my EVO, Brembo brakes, limited slip diffs, race car suspension, 17" wheels with Yoko Advans (the stickiest steet tire I've ever seen in my life), Recaro seats, All kinds of trick cast aluminum suspension bits, AWD, 271 hp from just under 2L?? At less than $30K.... The new STi is coming out in the summer for reputedly $35K, check out it's specs 300hp, yes, 300, no 285 plus all the trick stuff you want.
I'm willing to bet that the EVO will smoke the Z in almost any race with equivalent skilled drivers. The STi will prolly do it too... I just saw a 2000 model M3 coupe w/ 4kK miles at carmax for $29K..... They also had a '99 Boxter with 44K miles for $24K...
Hey, sure the Z is nice, I seriously considered one, but personally I think it's overpriced, at least that's what the dealers are making it. I don't need to smoke anything to see what's what and to make my decisions... Remember, I've already owner a 300ZX and a 280 ZX. I own a 03 Max... I know a little about cars and I reserve the right to make my own decisions.. BTW, do you by any chance have a 350Z? If you do, congratulations on a great car

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Street Reeper



Yes indeed you are lucky. I like the new Evo and WRX and was going to get one because of boost and nasty off the line performance however AWD and highway performance do not mix and that is the only thing holding me back (not taking anything away from your EVO it is awesome and I bet it fits your goals); watch out for those RSX-S on the highway, here is a vid of a RSX-S against a new Evo VIII, the RSX has two people, the evo has three, enjoy.

http://home.attbi.com/~rsx2/evovsrsxmovie.wmv

Have you raced the max vs evo yet or are you still breaking it in, that would be an interesting race on the highway.

Man, there's no way I'd do that!! Those RXS could be pretty bad, but I think that particular one was modified, no? I had an Integra GSR with a Jackson Racing blower and it was fast as hell... I think the light weight of the GSR of the RSX-S will give it a definite advantage for top speed as well as the taller gears... That's like too much for me though... 150 mph in the highway? Man, do you know how deep in jail they'd put you for that? And you can kiss your car goodbye too

I have not raced the Max or the EVO yet. The max will probably have a higher top speed (taller gears), but the EVO will destroy it in any other race, I'm pretty sure about that. The EVO is supposed to do the 1/4 mile in the 13s with 5.2 0-60. Also, the suspension and the AWD will make it handle way better at the ragged edge. The Max will definitely beat the EVO in comfort, fuel economy, quietness, and all around luxury. The Max did cost a few dollars more than the EVO though....

 

Which club in Chicago?

 

I hear all the talk about the EVO's and STi's but these cars are already boosted, so that is pretty much all the juice you can get out of their engines right? The 350Z is NA (for now) so there is a lot more potential to be had from them. Plus I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, but in my humble opinion Subaru really doesn't make an attractive car. So basically what I'm saying is the Subaru has pretty much peaked out in horsepower without getting a new engine and it is damn close to the Z.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hraesvelg
Plus I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, but in my humble opinion Subaru really doesn't make an attractive car.


Finally...I thought I was the only one to think Subaru had the ugliest cars on the market

 

BTW a 2 1/2 car head start is very difficult to overcome with two cars of similar power.


6th gear is great for cruising or even accelerating at 100+ mph

 

my local dealer wanted $38k for an Evo 8... no leather =P

 

I'm getting an enthusiast 350Z for around $28k tomorrow, cheaper and most definately better looking. Why a Z? Because you're never going to hear "Hey baby, can I ride in your Subaru?" Just kidding, they're awsome performers, but we're all accustomed to the VQ engine, and know what to expect from Nissan, why change any variables if it's working fine?

 

Now that's a good deal! Congartulations on getting a nice car for a great price . Before anybody forgets, I started responding to this thread in defense of the 350Z. I think it's a great car!! I know that many people think the Subaru is ugly... I thought my WRX was pretty cool looking, but to each his own... I think the 350Z is absolutely beautiful....

 

Was at a light and saw a 350Z parked with its nose to the street about 50 feet away.

First thought - nice car
Second thought - Damn that is a whole lot of open paint area just waiting to chip!!