Hi all:
I recently read a thread regarding FWD vs RWD by Stephen Max. One of the topics is torque steering and supposedly, adding too much power to the front wheel will cause torque steering.
But I never feel torque steering in my car though. The car never jerks to the right or left when I floor the pedal, it just pulls. Does it have to be at certain condition to obeserved torque steering? Not even when I downshifted two gears on the freeway, I still dont feel it.
What makes torque steering more noticible besides adding a lot more pwoer to the front wheels? rims, tires, tranny? Does it have anything to do with car's torque to the wheel?



I have an auto 2k with stock 16 tires and wheel.

 

maybe you have an lsd

try this, next time your making a turn, floor it. (in a safe area with lots of room of course)

 

LSD don't stop torgue steer, at least the Maxima VLSD doesn't. It it worst right off the line for me, almost pulled me into the wall once last year at the track. Surprises you the first time.

 

I thought we had this discussion already.

My guess is the smooth, parasitic downshift of your auto. I know when I downshift I have to be carefull because I usually get torque steer. When i'm alone in the car, I always get torque steer, sometimes without even downshifting. 3.33", 6:1, 1 step colder plugs.

 

[maxi-overdose] and everyone else, check out this sweet write-up on Centrifugel Superchargers: http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?id=21

Here's a paragraph from that article that caught my eye:


The only problem is, they don't say WHY it is bad, just that it is. Anyone (mardi, i30krab, ect.) want to reiterate on this??

 

Their point is that auto's can't do much about getting into the powerband sooner like us 5 speed guys can.

I get crazy torque steer with just the stock pully, so maybe its an auto thing. Jime - do you get much without the slicks? Could they be magnifing (sp?) it?

 

Going WOT from a stop, how could us 5spd guys get into the powerband quicker? The only way I can think of is we can control our downshifts...

 

You are right Eric it won't do it without good traction. I don't notice it much on street tires.

 

Launch at a higher RPM. Auto guys are very limited in what they can do with their launches. We can launch where ever we'd like...however traction problems will always be there.

 

And with a 5sp I can get heavy torque steer with street tires. I think it all boils down to a transmission thing.

 

You'll get it if you floor it from a stop.

You'll get it if you floor it from 20mph and it downshifts.

You won't get it at 40mph (well, depends on your boost)

 

install some larger rims and come back and tell us if u feel anything. I have 19's and believe me, the torque steer is there. It is very dangerous cuz whenever I WOT, the car swerves to the left and then to the right and back to the left. U have to fight the steering wheel big time. It's crazy. If u don't have it, ...good. It's better like that. I tell u this though, whenever I put my stock 15's back on, I barely have any torque steer. I ususally race with my stocks on cuz it's much safer.

~AC

 

i have 16" gle rims and only a intake and I have torque steer if I mash the gas pedal whether i'm exiting a turn or just taking off the line.

I think your just not driving your SC hard enough or kevin install it wrong

 

Getting slight torque steer shifting into 4th at the end of 3rd is bad. It's not funny when you don't expect it.

If you want torque steer, floor it from a stop and turn your steering wheel slightly to the right/left.

Larry

 

thx craig~ just getting some more opinions.

I think it is an auto tranny thingy then....Maxima's auto tranny has really low shift point. It sucks when I wanted to floor it at 3rd but my rpm was only 2000+. It took a long time to get to high rpm.

thx for the article!

 

hi AC and Frankie
ah~ that's why you guys have wheels in the front and rims in the back. I always thought it just simply used to reduce weight.

so larger and heavier rims will cause more torque steer. Because it takes more energy to turn heavier object or object with long diameter?

anyways~ I gotta see your racing video someday.

btw, you guys are here in .org more often these few days than on the street because the recent rain or you guys are just running out of victims


thx for the reply!

 

thx Jer....probably I dont launch from dead stop that often...well, I can even count it, 4 times since the SC install.

thx for your PM, btw!

 

thx all for your replies....I will look into this once the rain stopped here in Bay Area


I am very gentle to my SC and I drive my lawn mower harder than my maxima.

 

Let me know when you're selling that lawn mower : is it a classic?

 

No problem bro. I actually read through the entire article, and it makes some interesting points. I wish it would have tapped into "which type of boost is more stressfull on the engine" though. One would assume a twin-screw or roots would be harder on the internals since full boost hits all at once. I'm sure it's fun though.

 

my two lawn mowers


let me know if you want a ride first

 

Holy crap dude! They look good! I was hoping for a lil more luxury in a Type S.. but this will do...

Just do me a favour and try not to grab my *** when you're behind me on the test drive...

 

you callin' maxi-overdose a queen?

 

Well you never know.. but at least he didn't PM me asking for a pic and age/sex/location ...


j/k maxi.. we all know you're a woman's man

 

it doesnt have too much space....so if you insisted for me to go on a test drive with ya....one of us might have to sit on the other.


craigy it's the internet though....I might be a 18 yr old asian girl with a boosted maxima.

you never know~

I was going to ask you that in my next PM....so we can get to know each other a bit better?

 

If you're an 18 year old asian girl then I'll drive and you can steer

Fire me up your pic in PM and we'll see if you're cute or not.. if not then sorry I don't want to talk to you!

(gee I hope maxi isn't some old guy in his white undies who sits at his desk all day and pretends to be a chick.... hmmmm)

*ducks*

 

man you guys are weird

 

We're just lonely

 

who's going to shift? you? or me? hahahahah

 

Pssshhhht let's take this one step at a time.. we'll figure it out when we get there!

 

The reason its "bad" is because the auto tranny is not producing enough line pressure to allow the clutch packs to grab. Think of it this way, its like riding the clutch until you reach 5K. The tranny is putting enough pressure in the lines to allow it to grab at stock power levels. A valve body will increase line pressure but will not increase it to the point that it has enough for the clutchs to grab at low rpms. End result is with hard driving, each time your buring off more and more or your clutch packs. Even if you dont drive hard its still gonna chew it up. Hope that answers your question.