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Old May 8, 2003 | 02:31 AM
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3.5 MAX vs. I35 .... 0-60 Tests

Since the I35 is a dressed up Maxima (3.5L), can it also keep up with the Max in a 0-60 run. Edmunds shows a diff of roughly 80lbs, I35 heavier. But if you add leather, heated seats, etc to the Max, I'm sure the weight diff is negligable.

How about handling: I35 sport pkg VS. Max SE

Edmunds tests show the I35 clocking 8 seconds on their 0-60 test. Why is there such a discrepency between the I35 and Maxima.
Old May 8, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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Edmunds is not the most reliable source for performance information I've found. I've seen the Maxima rated at mid 7 seconds for 0-60, while it really does so in the mid 6's, for the auto that is. The I35 should be close to that unless the gearing is much different, but still that shouldnt make a huge difference
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Re: 3.5 MAX vs. I35 .... 0-60 Tests

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Since the I35 is a dressed up Maxima (3.5L), can it also keep up with the Max in a 0-60 run. Edmunds shows a diff of roughly 80lbs, I35 heavier. But if you add leather, heated seats, etc to the Max, I'm sure the weight diff is negligable.

How about handling: I35 sport pkg VS. Max SE

Edmunds tests show the I35 clocking 8 seconds on their 0-60 test. Why is there such a discrepency between the I35 and Maxima.
Car & Driver (Dec 2001) lists the I35 @ 0-60 in 6.9 Seconds with a 1/4 mile of 15.3 @ 92 mph. I havent seen a test of the auto 2K2 Max but I'd guess that it runs 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds.
Old May 9, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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Re: 3.5 MAX vs. I35 .... 0-60 Tests

Originally posted by MaxAppeal
Since the I35 is a dressed up Maxima (3.5L), can it also keep up with the Max in a 0-60 run. Edmunds shows a diff of roughly 80lbs, I35 heavier. But if you add leather, heated seats, etc to the Max, I'm sure the weight diff is negligable.

How about handling: I35 sport pkg VS. Max SE

Edmunds tests show the I35 clocking 8 seconds on their 0-60 test. Why is there such a discrepency between the I35 and Maxima.


Maxima is a modified i35.. and in all aspects, 0-60, handling.. maxima would win... but in comfort... maxima will loose hands down.
Old Oct 16, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxAppeal
Since the I35 is a dressed up Maxima (3.5L), can it also keep up with the Max in a 0-60 run. Edmunds shows a diff of roughly 80lbs, I35 heavier. But if you add leather, heated seats, etc to the Max, I'm sure the weight diff is negligable.

How about handling: I35 sport pkg VS. Max SE

Edmunds tests show the I35 clocking 8 seconds on their 0-60 test. Why is there such a discrepency between the I35 and Maxima.
Don't know where you got that, cause I've read thier comparison test in '02 and thier I35 ran it in 6.9 as well. They referred to it as having "a tiger under the hood."

5.5 gen Maxima and I35 differences are minimal in terms of acceleration numbers. A maxima auto is not 6.5.

All it needs is another gear, but oh well.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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5.5 gen Maxima and I35 differences are minimal in terms of acceleration numbers. A maxima auto is not 6.5.
they should be exactly the same.. any minor differences will be due to a slight difference in weight with equipment or if one of the cars is running slightly poorer/better... same engine/tranny/pretty much everything else
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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This ( http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/02i35.htm )lists the weight of an I35 at 3375 lbs. Listed weight of a '02 Maxima SE is 3224 pounds. A 150 pound difference is around .2 to .3 from 0-60 and 1/4 mile.

This ( http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...niti-i35-3.htm ) gives the weight at 3342 pounds. That is still a 120 pound weight advantage so the Maxima should be a car length, maybe two quicker to both 60 and 1/4 mile assuming everything else being equal.
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they should be exactly the same.. any minor differences will be due to a slight difference in weight with equipment or if one of the cars is running slightly poorer/better... same engine/tranny/pretty much everything else
They also referred to that car not being broken in either that hit that 6.9 sec to 60, so I would give the auto max on average about 6.5 sec to 60. Some of the stronger ones stock like mine being hair quicker.
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i guess people posting are missing the fact this thread is from 03

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who cares?
people with 5.5 and people with i35
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Why the weight difference? I can't think of what is in an i35 that could make it almost 150lbs heavier than a Maxima. I assume that difference is comparing a bone stock Maxima SE against the i35, but still, do heated leather seats, auto climate control, and electroluminescent gauges really weigh 150 lbs more?
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
They also referred to that car not being broken in either that hit that 6.9 sec to 60, so I would give the auto max on average about 6.5 sec to 60. Some of the stronger ones stock like mine being hair quicker.

Do you have the link to that by chance? I can't recall ever finding any road test data on an AUTO 5.5 Maximas; just I35s, which were 6.9-7 seconds. This brings me to my point; the difference would be MINIMAL, like I said. Even if the Max is slightly lighter, so what. You could weigh 250 and I could be a 110 pound woman. I could have expensive michelens that hook up better than your toyos (another example) So would that balance it out? It's those types of trivial differences that make the "car length" that everyone uses when speaking of racing.
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Originally Posted by HotshotVQ35
i guess people posting are missing the fact this thread is from 03
holy crap I didnt even notice!
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HotshotVQ35
i guess people posting are missing the fact this thread is from 03
Well, I need my 15 posts before I can start my own threads. Why can't I view more than one page of seach results? I've been on these forums off and on since 2001, and I like reading my old posts. It's good to be back though. Wonder why I was away for so long.
:-D
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Do you have the link to that by chance? I can't recall ever finding any road test data on an AUTO 5.5 Maximas; just I35s, which were 6.9-7 seconds. This brings me to my point; the difference would be MINIMAL, like I said. Even if the Max is slightly lighter, so what. You could weigh 250 and I could be a 110 pound woman. I could have expensive michelens that hook up better than your toyos (another example) So would that balance it out? It's those types of trivial differences that make the "car length" that everyone uses when speaking of racing.
My post was referring to the I35.... when I said fresh new motor etc. So once the car gets more miles it will get stronger as most VQ's do.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test


"The thrust from this motor has a hint of big bore about it, too, as it whisks the I35 to 60 mph in 6.9 seconds (1.1 seconds quicker than the outgoing I30) and through the quarter in 15.3 seconds (versus 16.1) at 92 mph. This from a prototype with just 1400 miles on it. "

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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
My post was referring to the I35.... when I said fresh new motor etc. So once the car gets more miles it will get stronger as most VQ's do.
Absolutely right.

When Car and Driver wrap up their 40,000 mile long term tests, they redo the instrument testing and some cars are a good half second quicker to 60 and through 1/4 mile with 40,000 miles on them vs new with maybe 1000 miles on them. Very rarely is a car slower than the original test.
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Absolutely right.

When Car and Driver wrap up their 40,000 mile long term tests, they redo the instrument testing and some cars are a good half second quicker to 60 and through 1/4 mile with 40,000 miles on them vs new with maybe 1000 miles on them. Very rarely is a car slower than the original test.
At 103K mine should be broken in REEEAAALLL good!
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I can understand the basic reason as to why a car gets faster over time, but can someone explain out the technicalities?

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Wow, under 7 seconds is very cool. I was deceived by Edmunds too, but always felt my autotragic 2003 felt much faster than 7.5 seconds. This VQ35 is especially deadly between 2nd and 3rd gear when one needs to pass a slowpoke.

If anyone has that Dec 2001 article and has time to scan it, I would love to print it up to read.

The weight difference might be explained by the extra features the I35 has. Not sure about American models, but Canadian I35s had extra features that the Maxima didn't have like stability control, a power rear sunshade, and rear heated seats. I LOVE the heated steering wheel Maximas get. The only other cars I know that have the feature are the BMW 5 Series, Lexus LS600hL, Porsche Cayenne, and the Land Rover Range Rover HSE.

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Originally Posted by SlyI35
I can understand the basic reason as to why a car gets faster over time, but can someone explain out the technicalities?

If the rings aren't fully seated, there will be blowby which reduces the amount of charge compressed in the cylinder. Over time, deposits (mainly carbon) begin to build up on the top of the pistons and combustion chamber and these actually raise the compression ratio.
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Wow, under 7 seconds is very cool. I was deceived by Edmunds too, but always felt my autotragic 2003 felt much faster than 7.5 seconds. This VQ35 is especially deadly between 2nd and 3rd gear when one needs to pass a slowpoke.

If anyone has that Dec 2001 article and has time to scan it, I would love to print it up to read.

The weight difference might be explained by the extra features the I35 has. Not sure about American models, but Canadian I35s had extra features that the Maxima didn't have like stability control, a power rear sunshade, and rear heated seats. I LOVE the heated steering wheel Maximas get. The only other cars I know that have the feature are the BMW 5 Series, Lexus LS600hL, Porsche Cayenne, and the Land Rover Range Rover HSE.
Just click on the link below open it up and print it

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test

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I don't know what you guys are talking about how Edmunds "deceived you." If you go to thier inside line, select I35 and two articles should print up; a luxury comparison from '02 and a follow up test from '02 as well. However if anyone has a link to this 0-60 of 7.5, I'd love to see it. And yes, that's too slow. Maybe 7.5 when it's 100 degrees outside, taking off after sitting idle for 30 mins in traffic. I'm ALWAYS looking for more road tests of the I35 (or 5.5 Max auto), so post away if you've got them!

However the quarter mile trap speed from that C&D article is really crappy, but that's just cause of the gearing.

Speaking of edmunds, I'm gonna have to disagree; I've read edmunds for YEARS online and am actually really impressed by them. First of all, it's free, secondly, they do lots of things to show they aren't just some poseur. They do a rollout with accelleration tests, the first I've seen. Granted, I'll trust a Motor Trend number more, but I hardly think of edmunds as unreliable.

I like thier writing style.

That new Lincoln MKS they absolutely hated while Car and Driver loved it. I actually agree with edmunds.
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I never actually timed my car 0-60, but years ago when I ran it at the track I punched my 1/8 mile time, 60ft, and trap speed into one of those calculators and IIRC, came back with a 0-60 of 6.5 or 6.6 seconds. Not exactly accurate, I know, but perhaps somewhat illuminating on the subject.
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I'd say a well maintained 5.5gen max or I35 would run 0-60 in the mid high 6 second range.
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I just did a little test last week and hit with my max 6.7. not impressing for me cause i have my 02 max se for 2 years and when I bought this beauty I can tell that was picking up much faster. need to clean throttle and change spark plugs
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I just did a little test last week and hit with my max 6.7. not impressing for me cause i have my 02 max se for 2 years and when I bought this beauty I can tell that was picking up much faster. need to clean throttle and change spark plugs

I wouldnt touch the TB if I were you.

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ttle-body.html

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If the rings aren't fully seated, there will be blowby which reduces the amount of charge compressed in the cylinder. Over time, deposits (mainly carbon) begin to build up on the top of the pistons and combustion chamber and these actually raise the compression ratio.
The main reason is the engine loosens up a bit and there is less friction. I know when I rebuilt the engine in my old Chevelle, it had a really "tight" feel for the first 500-600 miles, then just got quicker after that.
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I wouldnt touch the TB if I were you.

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ttle-body.html
+1.

Do not touch the throttle body when you do the spark plugs. You will screw up your idle and will need to take it to the stealership to reset it, or in a worse-case scenario, might need a new TB or screw up the ECU. I got cute thinking cleaning it was good, and learned the hard way!
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+1.

Do not touch the throttle body when you do the spark plugs. You will screw up your idle and will need to take it to the stealership to reset it, or in a worse-case scenario, might need a new TB or screw up the ECU. I got cute thinking cleaning it was good, and learned the hard way!


And even if you dream about cleaning it...wake up and apologize to your car.
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I'll stick to my 3.0 so I can touch my throttle body, and my car won't hate me.
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guys, I have already cleaned TB and yes my idle was screwed up like hell. But there's this nice way to bring back everything back to normal http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...tting-ecu.html
I also have steps how to reset acceleration pedal position, air idle volume and throttle plate position. I guess I was lucky.
As far I know there's way to clean throttle by break line(?) using sea foam. never tried and thinking about it, is that maybe safer?
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