My friend just got a 2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Supercharged 3.8 liter, auto, 50 state emissions. I have my 2000 Maxima GXE, 5 speed, federal emissions. What are my chances of beating him? Is there anything I could do to slide the odds in my favor (that is besides putting grease on his wheels)?

Rude

 

He would probably take you, They run close to what the 2k2 and 2k3 maxes run.

 

yes waste of time.....only the 02-03's would have a chance

 

From a stop you are toast, they have a lot of torque. From a roll its a drivers race as you both trap around 94 in the 1/4. If he adds a pulley say bye bye.

 

what about older gtp models like the 98, 99 or 00's? can al these cars smoke maximas? say it isnt so !!!

 

 

OK... it isn't so...

but older models still have the supercharged 3.8L V6... torque monsters.

 

nope...older models had either a 3.1 turbo or 3.8 NA motor..

 

You are talking about OLD models... like

1991 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
Zero to Sixty - 8.4 seconds
Qtr Mile - 16.3

But starting in 1997 and on, they had the supercharged 3.8L:

1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
V-6 Supercharged, 3800 cc, 4 speed automatic
Zero To Sixty - 6.6 seconds
Qtr Mile - 15.2
Top Speed - 126 mph

 

you are correct...my badd

 

LoL ... looks like 2k/2k1 like ours can only beat them Grand ***** beyond 126MPH .. when their limiter is kicking in ...

 

OK I'll race him first one to 132mph but first I should change off my snow tires. Last time I got up to 132 with snow tires things felt a little unsafe. I guess there's a reason why my cruise doesn't work past 99mph.

How about the twisty's? I have a FSTB. He has TCS.

 

You'll need a RSB (I need one too, last time I checked on customaxima.com, they're sold out). FSTB helps out a bit, not much. Anyways, I think he still has the advantage.

 

If you are racing, you don't need an RSB or FSTB... they are only good for cornering... like autocross, etc.

But in straight-out racing, you don't want the extra weight.

-R

 

A FSTB will help a little with Torque Steer....even in a st. line.

 

Definitely.

 

This may be technically true (other than the note about torque steer), but hcn101 asked about twisties. An RSB and FSTB will definitely help there, it's not just limited to autocross.

Also, I'd guess that the combined weight of the RSB and FSTB is less than 30 pounds (can't remember exactly from my install) - or about 3.3 gallons of gas. Not sure it's going to make a huge diff...

 

Ypipe and intake on a 2k 5spd maxima and you should take an unmodified GTP. It will all come down to whether you can drive your 5spd and how well you launch.

I've raced numerous GTPs/Regal GSs and have won when I get a good launch and lost (barely) when I have gotten a bad one. Best race for the 2k is from a roll around 5500-6000 rpms in third.

Once they start modding, though, there is far more they can do and you won't be able to keep up without forced induction. Of course, they have to drive an auto!

I seem to recall that either the 2k3 or 2k4 was getting a significant bump in hp. If it was the 2k3 then my comments only apply to pre-2k3.

 

Its the 04 GTP that recieved the horsepower jump to 260, the 97-03 all have the 240 hp.

 

Same TQ levels, though. The paddle shifter on the wheel is kinda cool (still an autotragic)...

 

quote:
A FSTB will help a little with Torque Steer....even in a st. line.



I, for one, would love to know how a FSTB helps torque steer in a straight line.

Give me a good argument, and I will consider buying one this Summer.
Thanks

Vic

 

I don't have a good argument but it just works in my case. My guess is with the limited flex due to the FSTB there's not as much movement up-front.

All i can really say is, after putting on the FSTB there's been a lot less TS on my Max.

 

Thought technically not a GTP, dont forget that the prev gen has a 260hp GTX model (courtesy of ram air):

 

I rememberthat one, all of the times that I saw of it werent much different than a regular GTP like 1/10 of a sec or so.

 

The GTP guys will tell you the same thing for the most part.

 

a 2k/2k1 manaul should stay with a stock GTP if not take it by a little. as long as the launch is good, you should take him. you also have a GXE which is the lightest maxima, so you got weight advantage. dont be scared, you can do it

 

Im not going to "argue" with you, because frankly I could not care less if you bought a FSTB.

However, its just something you have to feel. It does reduce the torq steer as soundmike stated.

Bottom line, you dont buy a FSTB for the torq steer, you buy it for the stability in the twisties.

 

2k/2k1 manual should be scared of the "supercharged" word that follows "3.8L" for the stock GTP.

No way