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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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12.4 @ 110 Mph

Had another good day at the track. Same 100 shot and a headwind but lighter rear wheels and a little more pressure in the fronts. Only had time for one run at 100, I would have liked to try for a 1.7 60' came close though. Anyway that almost 3/10's faster than last weekend so I am a happy camper. Not going to up my shot until I wring out as much as I can from the 100.

The other timeslip is from the eliminations, I used my 35 shot again for consistency and dialed a 13.5 but had to wait so long between races, over an hour that the car cooled off and I ended up running a 13.3 and broke out. At least I didn't red light and made it past the first round.

Also did an N/A run and got a 14.8 @ 93 but it didn't feel very strong, 2 steps colder plugs and running on my nitrous map on the S-AFC didn't help. Going to work on that too.

Have another race this weekend at yet another track which I haven't been to yet so will see how it goes.

Just a footnote, I hit the rev limiter in 3rd gear at 110 Mph because of the 22" tires, from now on its O/D on.

Old Jun 1, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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Re: 12.4 @ 110 Mph

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Had another good day at the track. Same 100 shot and a headwind but lighter rear wheels and a little more pressure in the fronts. Only had time for one run at 100, I would have liked to try for a 1.7 60' came close though. Anyway that almost 3/10's faster than last weekend so I am a happy camper. Not going to up my shot until I wring out as much as I can from the 100.

The other timeslip is from the eliminations, I used my 35 shot again for consistency and dialed a 13.5 but had to wait so long between races, over an hour that the car cooled off and I ended up running a 13.3 and broke out. At least I didn't red light and made it past the first round.

Also did an N/A run and got a 14.8 @ 93 but it didn't feel very strong, 2 steps colder plugs and running on my nitrous map on the S-AFC didn't help. Going to work on that too.

Have another race this weekend at yet another track which I haven't been to yet so will see how it goes.
Nice job Jime!! Keep up the good work, you could someday soon hit the 11s...
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 06:30 PM
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How the hell are you doing that lol. I had slicks, 100 shot, and 5-speed, and I got a best of 13.5. What am I doing wrong lol?

BTW, great job...
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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12.4@110mph with an auto '95 on 100shot w/slicks? Damn you sir. Damn you to hell.
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IIRC, you dont have a VI

maybe that could help your times
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Congrats! Truely amazing. Just goes to show. You don't have to put a lot of money in to a maxima to make it fast. =) Good job laughing gas man. =)
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Why cant a 5 speed be just as fast?
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
12.4@110mph with an auto '95 on 100shot w/slicks? Damn you sir. Damn you to hell.
Very nice runs Jim, I think you'll blast into the 11's once you step it up to a 125-150 for sure. If your running 13.3 with a 35 shot? I cant imagine what your gonna run with a 150.
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Mardigrasmax works his @ss off to run his 11.9....14psi, upgraded blower, intercooler, full exhaust, slicks, MEVI (?), racing clutch, lightened car, small shot of NaWz, ect......and here comes little mr. Jime with his '95 auto, and he slaps some NOS on it and is already in the mid 12's. It's just not fair. There's gotta be something Jime isn't telling us....maybe he is running an F14 jet engine in there...
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
Mardigrasmax works his @ss off to run his 11.9....14psi, upgraded blower, intercooler, full exhaust, slicks, MEVI (?), racing clutch, lightened car, small shot of NaWz, ect......and here comes little mr. Jime with his '95 auto, and he slaps some NOS on it and is already in the mid 12's. It's just not fair. There's gotta be something Jime isn't telling us....maybe he is running an F14 jet engine in there...
He has a V8 swap
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Jim...good job!
gotta represent the Tdot
man...even N/A, you're running right beside my 5spd at 14.8
i think you have a freak on your hands
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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i'm curious...........how do you get an auto max with a 100 shot that low????5 spds with s/c and mevi's usually beat nitrous'd max's and they wouldn't come close to your 12.4...........how'd you do it????
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I know the secret!! Jime is anerexic and belemic and weighs 23lbs. So by weighing in at a measly 23lbs., Jime shaves a significant amount of time off his ET vs. a regular sized human being!
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Originally posted by johnvt1111
i'm curious...........how do you get an auto max with a 100 shot that low????5 spds with s/c and mevi's usually beat nitrous'd max's and they wouldn't come close to your 12.4...........how'd you do it????
NX kits rate the HP at the wheels so its more then it leads on. Not to mention the auto runs the 1/4 with 3 gears. Plus hes runnin on slicks that stand 22", those considerably reduce the gear ratios. He's lightened it up a bit too, but im sure there is still a trick up his sleeve gone unnoticed.
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
Mardigrasmax works his @ss off to run his 11.9....14psi, upgraded blower, intercooler, full exhaust, slicks, MEVI (?), racing clutch, lightened car, small shot of NaWz, ect......and here comes little mr. Jime with his '95 auto, and he slaps some NOS on it and is already in the mid 12's. It's just not fair. There's gotta be something Jime isn't telling us....maybe he is running an F14 jet engine in there...
No one tells EVERYTHING including Matt. However I do try and help folks out whenever I can and I do post all of my little experiments I test out to try and go faster. Except when you get negative comments, you sometimes just want to not bother anymore but most people aren't like that.

I did quite a bit of lightening which helps immensely and I keep trying anything and everything I can think of that will make it quicker.

I have lost about 15 lbs since last year too which helps. Weight is your biggest enemy and I started from the rear and worked my way forward. I don't want to gut the car I want it to still look stock and it does for the most part except I take the rear seat out. We have to have both front seats in here for racing.

However my engine is stock with just a few bolt ons and I am still not as fast as I want to be N/A, I hope to get it below a 14.5. That is going to be my mission for the next little while because the faster you go N/A the faster you go on spray.
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
Mardigrasmax works his @ss off to run his 11.9....14psi, upgraded blower, intercooler, full exhaust, slicks, MEVI (?), racing clutch, lightened car, small shot of NaWz, ect......and here comes little mr. Jime with his '95 auto, and he slaps some NOS on it and is already in the mid 12's. It's just not fair. There's gotta be something Jime isn't telling us....maybe he is running an F14 jet engine in there...
you can't always look at just the time. Mardigras is trapping 117mph which means he would walk jime in a race. Jime has traction and a fast shifting auto. Mardigras has to baby the shifts to keep from breaking the tranny so that wastes time as well.

Jim, I would like to know more about the separate fuel system that you are using for the nitrous. I know you don't want to share all the secrets, but what fuel are you using and where is the other tank mounted? Also, what is your 60 ft time when you run N/A? my car is maxed out at a 2.18 with street tires and the stock converter. I think I am gonna try to go with a protorque converter and some slicks and see if I can run a 13.9 N/A, and then I might hit up some nitrous or boost (when money allows). Do you think an open diff will kill me even with slicks? I would think I can hit a 13.9 with a 1.98 60 ft or better, and definately if I lighten the car some. Can you please share some of your thoughts.
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you can't always look at just the time. Mardigras is trapping 117mph which means he would walk jime in a race.
Ahhh, that's right...I forgot about the trap speeds. There's an incredible difference between a 117mph trap and a 110mph trap...
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
Mardigrasmax works his @ss off to run his 11.9....14psi, upgraded blower, intercooler, full exhaust, slicks, MEVI (?), racing clutch, lightened car, small shot of NaWz, ect......and here comes little mr. Jime with his '95 auto, and he slaps some NOS on it and is already in the mid 12's. It's just not fair. There's gotta be something Jime isn't telling us....maybe he is running an F14 jet engine in there...
Dude, do you even know what your typing when your at the keyboard?

First off, Matt does not have an upgraded blower, just a rebuilt one. Nothing unusual about rebuilding a blower, nor does he have an intercooler. Never did.

Jime, congrats, I look forward to your posts about your runs, it great to see what one can do on a budget, and I applaud you going at it the way you do. Keep Up the good work.
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Simply amazing Jime. Good job.

Why is Jime so quick with a 100 shot of nitrous, basic bolt-ons, slicks, and some lightening compared to the SC Maximas? Its the torque. Unlike the SC, nitrous makes HUGE torgue. While Jime's got an honest 80-90fwhp extra with nitrous, the torque is more like an extra 150lbs+. Factor in the traction and torque mulitplication of the slicks and you're looking at a torque monster motor. It also explains why Jime's car only traps 108-110mph while running a 12.4. Big torque spread out over a 2000rpms powerband (3000-5000rpms) equals awesome ETs. I find it funny how everyone called BS on Don (in Texas) about his nitrous'd GXE auto pulling 12.3@108mph and here's Jime doing the same thing.


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Dude, do you even know what your typing when your at the keyboard?

First off, Matt does not have an upgraded blower, just a rebuilt one. Nothing unusual about rebuilding a blower, nor does he have an intercooler. Never did.

Jime, congrats, I look forward to your posts about your runs, it great to see what one can do on a budget, and I applaud you going at it the way you do. Keep Up the good work.
I remember talking to him about an intercooler project. I guess he never went through with it? Secondly, I knew he got his blower rebuilt, but I thought he got it built stronger to handle more boost? So settle down, Dude, i'll try to scavange through my old PM's just for you...
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Hahhaha, great point! If i were Don i'd come back on the board just for a "Don Ownz" comment.. hehe, but thats my personality!


Jime- Great stuff man, what kind of car does your son have again?

Originally posted by Dave B
I find it funny how everyone called BS on Don (in Texas) about his nitrous'd GXE auto pulling 12.3@108mph and here's Jime doing the same thing.


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way to rep autos man. im sure you will hit 11s by the end of summer...its enevitable. great job.
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I think the difference with Don was that he had a timeslip showing a 2.2 sec. 60 ft. or something like that, and that's why people were saying it wasn't possible with a 60 like that.

Originally posted by Dave B
Simply amazing Jime. Good job.

Why is Jime so quick with a 100 shot of nitrous, basic bolt-ons, slicks, and some lightening compared to the SC Maximas? Its the torque. Unlike the SC, nitrous makes HUGE torgue. While Jime's got an honest 80-90fwhp extra with nitrous, the torque is more like an extra 150lbs+. Factor in the traction and torque mulitplication of the slicks and you're looking at a torque monster motor. It also explains why Jime's car only traps 108-110mph while running a 12.4. Big torque spread out over a 2000rpms powerband (3000-5000rpms) equals awesome ETs. I find it funny how everyone called BS on Don (in Texas) about his nitrous'd GXE auto pulling 12.3@108mph and here's Jime doing the same thing.


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Hahhaha, great point! If i were Don i'd come back on the board just for a "Don Ownz" comment.. hehe, but thats my personality!


Jime- Great stuff man, what kind of car does your son have again?



I believe he said it was an AWD Talon in the other thread.

Definitely awesome times. keep up the good work.
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Ahhh, that's right...I forgot about the trap speeds. There's an incredible difference between a 117mph trap and a 110mph trap...
yeah we know.....but that's prolly where the .5 of a second faster comes from as well
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Ahhh, that's right...I forgot about the trap speeds. There's an incredible difference between a 117mph trap and a 110mph trap...
Give it a little more time, im positive the 12.4 is not all hes got left. Hes runnin a 100shot remember, with a perfectly tuned nitrous setup the vq30 will hold a 150shot but thats about it due to the massive torque. The 150shot however should provide atleast 225lb ft of torque extra at the 3000rpm mark and slowly decrease after that, but im still willing to bet that extra 50shot is all he might need to be the second max to dip into the 11's and be right at Matts doors.
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
Mardigrasmax works his @ss off to run his 11.9....14psi, upgraded blower, intercooler, full exhaust, slicks, MEVI (?), racing clutch, lightened car, small shot of NaWz, ect......and here comes little mr. Jime with his '95 auto, and he slaps some NOS on it and is already in the mid 12's. It's just not fair. There's gotta be something Jime isn't telling us....maybe he is running an F14 jet engine in there...

Well i guess the big difference is that Mardigrasmax is able to have that kind of power all the time, while Jime can only do it a few times until he needs to refill. I have to give props to Jime though that is an amazing run, good job!
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One of the main differences is that at those power levels the gear ratio of the auto is superior to the 5spd. I found this out long ago playing with cartest. It seems that once the car gets more than say 250whp, the auto has the advantage assuming it has a good launch. Lets not forget that Jime is running 22" slicks which effectivly makes his final gear ratio to around 4.0. So you have an auto + lots of torque (n2o) + deeper/shorter gearing (more torque at the wheels) + 1 less shift = awesome ET!
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I find it funny how everyone called BS on Don (in Texas) about his nitrous'd GXE auto pulling 12.3@108mph and here's Jime doing the same thing.


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Jime is doing it with 1.8 60's and Don was saying he pulled his 12.2 off with a 2.2 60'. Sorry not going to happen in a maxima anyway.
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I think the difference with Don was that he had a timeslip showing a 2.2 sec. 60 ft. or something like that, and that's why people were saying it wasn't possible with a 60 like that.

Not only that he said he heard a noise and was standing on the brakes at the end of the 1/4 for that run as well thats when I called BS.

Regardless Don did some pioneering for sure and I try do do the same, trying to come up with stuff people haven't tried before. I am not very creative and mostly rely on other peoples ideas from other boards and then try to make them work on the Max. Sometimes they work sometimes they don't but thats the only way to get ahead.

There is a saying in racing that you will never win if you are following and in a dog sled team, if you aren't the lead dog the scenery never changes.

As far as MardiGrasMax goes, a 1/2 second is a huge amount of time in the 11 & 12 seconds arena as is 10 mph and would take a large HP gain to achieve it. I won't be knocking on that doorstep for a while yet.

96 Sleeper here is a pic of my fuel system for nitrous. The fuel cell is located where your CAI filter would go. I did this mainly because of safety against knock. You can either retard the ignition (expensive on my budget) or run a higher octane fuel. If you run a higher octane for the whole car it means a whole bunch of tuning so I chose to do it just for the nitrous. The fuel I use is 115 octane and I haven't even tried tuning in any way yet, which I should because of the difference between it and pump gas. I am still using the NX recommended jets. Still waiting to get a wideband hooked up that my Son is bringing home.

Oh ya, David6601 run the same time I did last year on an open diff. Actually he was a bit faster.



Nismo87SE, actually I will have to use all 4 gears from now on because I hit the limiter in 3rd for that run because I had the O/D off.
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Jimer has struck again!!!!!

Whatever you are doing great job! I myself looked at your trap speed and was like hes only trapping 3 MPH higher then me and hit a 12.6. Torque is your friend right along w/traction plus the 60s. Good job!!

You are the fastest auto maxima!!
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ahemm.. arrrhem... (thought we were not giving away ALLL the secrets?)

Guys what you see above you is an optical illusion, I drew that in photoshop. We run the nitrous kit the same way everybody else does, on regular gas and the car is full weight. We just fill the tires with helium before we race, that's all.
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Jimer has struck again!!!!!

Whatever you are doing great job! I myself looked at your trap speed and was like hes only trapping 3 MPH higher then me and hit a 12.6. Torque is your friend right along w/traction plus the 60s. Good job!!

You are the fastest auto maxima!!
so whens the torque in a blue bottle going to be installed on your beast. You still have one of my fav maxes and cant wait to meet u at some point this month
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so whens the torque in a blue bottle going to be installed on your beast. You still have one of my fav maxes and cant wait to meet u at some point this month



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