so many turbo maxes and so few timeslips

what the hell did you all do? spend so much money on the kit that theres none left to go to the track? or all of you having too many problems?





Trevor

 

if im not mistaken, bags533 had a thread about going to the track along with dixit. i think it was about a week ago or so.

 

It aint as easy as just bolting up an intake and expecting it to give you imense gains. Yea you get gains, but there are too many things to look after and make sure it dont fall apart.

Me and Kirk did go, but we need some major re-doing of the kit and tuning to figure out why we are not at 9secs on an 1/8mi track. 10secs dont cut it, it have to be well under 9secs to make me happy. Plus we automatic and Im taking it easy on the car cause i dont want to drop another 3gs for a new tranny as well.

Dixit

 

we like to get everything perfect before going to the track.

 

 

I did...




Sorry...couldn't resist!

 

Plus it takes several shake down days to wring the full potential of a car at the track.

 

hey mardigras, my car will be coming home next week. will you help me retune it after i get the tranny done? I will be getting the tranny done the week after i bring the car home, if it is slipping the way they say it is

 

thats all i was wondering

it's been awhile since the kit's been out; i just didn't know if anyone got it working at its full potential yet.

 

I'm with you Trevor! I have been asking this question for a year+. As much as I appreciate a dyno showing 300+ HP, show me a damn timeslip of a sub 13 sec car and I'll be on my knees bowing down. Heck, even sub 14 sec. But all we ever see are dynos. I don't get it. A high horsepower figure on paper means nothing if you can't translate that into low track times. I have heard all the excuses "It's winter, I'll go as soon as it's spring". "I went to the track but my clutch went out". "I'll go as soon as I...". So either A.) they are not going to the track for who knows what reason or B.) they are going and getting mediocor times and are embarrassed to state their times. For some reason, I think it's B.), more often than not. And to be honest, I'm a little guilty of it myself. After the SC, I did some G-Tech runs and I got an embarrassing 14.7 so I have been in no hurry to get to the track - lol. But then again, I'm not waiving around a 300 HP dyno. Please turbo guys, get out to the track! The suspense is killing me. :I

 

Getting good times at the track is so much more than having a powerful engine. You've got to be able to get that power to the ground in a controlled fashion with optimal delivery, and Maximas being FWD are weak in that area. The people getting the fastest times (Mardi and Jime) have more than a powerful engine, they have also invested in slicks, drivetrain and suspension and have spent the time at the track to perfect launching techniques. Most of us who have spent the money on turbos and superchargers aren't interested in that sort of investment, we just love the feel of a strong engine that pulls hard when you step on the gas. I haven't been to the track because I don't think I would get a particularly good time, even though my engine feels really good (especially after 5 krpm) because I know with my crappy Dunlops and my open diff tranny my 60' times would suck. But I love having the strong engine and my goal is a dyno run over 300 hp.

To each his own, ya know?

 

Very true, the issue is wheather or not people ar looking to build a track car or not. Im not building my car for the track. i'm building it for that fool that decides he wants to show off and out run me on the street because i have a car that looks fast!!! I don't wanna get smoked by every clk430 i see any more!!! Plus I just want to feel the extra pull from the boost when it kicks in. Actually when the boost kicks in i want my neck to snap my head into the trunk!!! know what i mean, so if i get all of that and dont get great track times, then for me, who cares!!!!

 

Shouldn't have bought a maxima then...

 

Thats why I bought a CrotchRocket........

 

Going to the track is very inconvenient since the two closest ones open at 4-ish and are over an hour drive in rush hour traffic (Wednesdays and Fridays).

 

I have, many times.

I have never stripped the car down, I have never used anything better than stock wheels/tires for traction.

I have only raced 3 times since its new setup, the times are below.

This past weekend the car went 113.5mph in the 1/4 (90mph in 1/8)
followed by 92mph in the 1/8th on a pass that I shut down early (would have been a ~117mph pass)

Best the car has done is a 12.89 and now 116.8mph
during ~75-85degrees and high humidity.
(for mph reference, jime just went 12.1 @ 108mph on slicks.. so that should give you an idea of what this car will do, considering it traps 8-9-10+mph faster)

Since my most recent race, MEVI has been added.

The car has no fuel computer (safc, etc), and has much more in it.

By the way, the car is FOR SALE , click here

oh and as soon as the car was turbo'd (2002), I went to the track completely untuned, etc and ran 13.2 @108mph and that time was posted up ages ago in the timeslips forum.

 

Hal, was the nitrous sprayed on this run? if it was do you have the nitrous set to WOT? or do you push the button all the way through? also what does the car dyno at 8psi without the nos

 

nitrous was sprayed on all 3 of my new runs (car runs a best of 111mph untuned withOUT nitrous)

nitrous is hooked up through a couple switches. first, to arm the system you turn the factory foglight switch on. a little red LED then lights up. to spray it, must be at full throttle AND you must be pushing the cruise control button the steering wheel. then a green LED comes on too. I set it up to use cruise control in addition to wide open switch, so that I don't accidentally spray through a shift etc, I must take my hand off the wheel/cruise control(NX switch) and shift. This does make for slower times and slower traps because of the lost spray time when I am moving my hand from shifter to wheel to shifter to wheel etc.. i spray starting from the top of 2nd. Have only raced the 3 times with nitrous.

I do not know what the car dynos at 8psi turbo only. BUT, I ran the 13.2 @ 108mph untuned @ 8.5psi, no nitrous, on stock slipping clutch. (this was immediately following my car being turbo'd)

 

gee why are you selling it? tired of fixing ****?

 

timeslips are not important to everyone

I went to the track JUST to go and see what I would get.

I will go again, but I am now worried about DYNO numbers.

 

Convert it back to an auto and I will buy it.

 

I understand what your saying about time slips, but I remember when this turbo maxima stuff came out. Everyone was talking about the gains that it produces over superchargers. All I see is dyno queens. Quick to post up the HP but excuses about the track being to far. Come on. You mean to tell me that most of the turbo maximas live more the 4hrs away from the track. For the few that ran there car at the track much respect no matter what you ran. You had the ***** to try. I dont understand why some would neglect the drive train putting down that many pony's to the wheels. I understand that some are worried about breaking **** but it goes with the territory of boost.

 

After the substantial outlay of money for the SC or turbo, some of us don't have anything left over for the Quaife or the slicks. Not that we wouldn't love to have that stuff, that's just the cold, hard reality. I've got at least eight years of tuition bills for my kids starting in a month or two. The Quaife will have to wait for a while.

Going to the track is not a matter of *****. Some like to do that, some don't care that much about it. But dyno-tuning is necessary if you want to have a boosted car that is going to last a while.

Breaking stuff doesn't have to go along with being boosted. It does go along with driving stupid and not knowing the limits of what you've got, however. (Hope I didn't offend anybody.)

 

The dyno tells you if your car is running correctly. My car made 224 WHP and was at 10.5:1 A/F the day before I went to the track. My MEVI was not working either.

So I was not near full potential, SO IMHO I was not making enough power to hurt anything. SO I went to the track, just out of curiousity.

And now I am having fuel issues, there is no reason for me to go to the track anymore, until my car is running correctly.

And I like street racing better. This is not an accuarte measure of the 1/4 mile, but it makes all the time and money seem more worthwhile, to ME

 

I understand what you guys are saying. You dont have to prove your self to anyone but I am very interested to see what kind of numbers on street tires and slicks. Even with no traction and 370+ fwhp should be good for 12.8-13.5 which is pretty good for street tires.

 

VERY few maxima's pishing 370 WHP

 

I will be going to the track on friday with just street tires

 

Just curious. How much can the maxima short block take in terms of boost. And is there anyone on the boards with forged internals?

Mardi did you do any weight reductions on any of your runs. That is a killer e.t. with a fwd. I am sure you have taken out your fare share of vettes, stangs, f-bods, and vipers.

 

Are you going to capital, mardigras?

 

I wanna go with the new turbo but i need a tranny first

 

i will be going to the track on wed. Now the car isn't perfect but i want to get a base time to work on. Also my track is at 5800 ft as well so my times will be slower than the guys at sea level. But i will let everyone know the times when i get back.
Ryan

 

Bandimere on the 23rd?

 

yep hopefully i will get soem decent times.
Ryan

 

GOOD LUCK


I hope you do well.. I have found 2000 rpm's best for launching, others think 1800 or so

 

I second that bro. Knock em dead. You never know you might do better than you ever expected. Drive safe.