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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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Installed Teins & GR-2's...I have a Question?

I installed them yesterday, the drop is awesome!!! My question is, are they normally that bouncy? I've seen posts where people say that they feel close to the stock ride. It seems every little dip in the road it just bounces all over the place. Also, I didn't cut the bump stops. Is this something I should of done?
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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I installed my Teins and KYB GR-2s on Saturday - and yeah, it's bouncy and harsh.

I've been told by a few people that it will soften up over time. I've gotten anywhere between 5 days - 2 weeks.

Have you had it aligned yet? I went to 3 places today, all to have them tell me that my car is too low with the drop and the front lip to get on the rack.
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 05:07 PM
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springs will settle down after about a week of driving
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by MetaOrbit
I installed my Teins and KYB GR-2s on Saturday - and yeah, it's bouncy and harsh.

I've been told by a few people that it will soften up over time. I've gotten anywhere between 5 days - 2 weeks.

Have you had it aligned yet? I went to 3 places today, all to have them tell me that my car is too low with the drop and the front lip to get on the rack.


No, I'm going to let the springs settle a little before I go get it aligned. I hope I don't have any problems like your having finding a place to do it.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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No, I'm going to let the springs settle a little before I go get it aligned. I hope I don't have any problems like your having finding a place to do it.

I went ahead and got the car aligned today. I found a general tire and service center that was able to do it.

It's still bouncy as h3ll though...maybe I'm not ready for a drop like this...I can only hope the bounciness will subside as the springs settle.

As it is though, I'm looking for softer springs or even contemplating putting the stock setup back on..
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:15 PM
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As it is though, I'm looking for softer springs or even contemplating putting the stock setup back on..
Meta..shoulda went Maxspeed route...

softer, cheaper and all around better
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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If you don't cut your bump stops with a drop like that, you will be riding on rubber bumpers, not your springs.

That's why your ride bounces all over the place. I've installed and driven on Tein springs in a 5th gen and found the ride to be pretty smooth. I did cut about 3/4 of the bump stops to accomidate the drop.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd
If you don't cut your bump stops with a drop like that, you will be riding on rubber bumpers, not your springs.

That's why your ride bounces all over the place. I've installed and driven on Tein springs in a 5th gen and found the ride to be pretty smooth. I did cut about 3/4 of the bump stops to accomidate the drop.
I think I already know the answer to this question but is there any way to cut the bump stops once the springs are already installed? Or do I have to totally disassemble everything?
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 04:23 PM
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Meta..shoulda went Maxspeed route...



u know what i think about the maxspeed "drop"
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE




u know what i think about the maxspeed "drop"
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE
u know what i think about the maxspeed "drop"
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by 02MAXSE


I think I already know the answer to this question but is there any way to cut the bump stops once the springs are already installed? Or do I have to totally disassemble everything?
iw ant the answer to this question also, anyone??
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by asu174


lol, here we go again

92 SER, you forgot your famous quote "another satisfied teins owner" bla bla bla
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 01:00 AM
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Hmmmm....I'd like to add something here.

First, I spoke to 3 different places (the mechanic that installed my Maxspeeds, Les Schwab, and an independent tire/alignment shop) and they ALL told me that springs do NOT have to settle before getting an alignment. For what it's worth.

Second. If everyone remembers correctly, Maxspeed was the BOMB when they came out with springs for our cars. Everyone compared them to H&R for half the price. Mine ROCK! Now Tein is the bomb, but that doesn't make the Maxspeeds lame all of the sudden. I personally think the Maxima looks like crap when it's lowered too much. But everyone needs to do to their car what makes them happy.

02maxse...cut the bump stops if it will help make the ride less bouncy. I hope that helps. If not, try the Maxspeeds. Good luck.


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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 03:46 AM
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can it be cut while already on the car?
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 04:55 AM
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Originally posted by ToasterMax
can it be cut while already on the car?
No...
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 05:38 AM
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I had my bump stops trimmed by Maximum tuning during my Tein install but my ride is still bouncy as hell. Not rough, but bouncy. I would love it if I could achive the same drop / handling without the bounciness. Is there any way to tell if the suspension is hitting / riding on the bump stops? If not, I'm still happy with the drop / ride and I'll just live with it.


asu174 - I'm a little in the dark about your feud with 92 SE-R 02 SE but you mentioned that there was some big incident in the Feedback Forum. Do you have a link to that thread? I love drama (when it's not involving me )
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 05:48 AM
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Originally posted by spta97
I had my bump stops trimmed by Maximum tuning during my Tein install but my ride is still bouncy as hell. Not rough, but bouncy. I would love it if I could achive the same drop / handling without the bounciness. Is there any way to tell if the suspension is hitting / riding on the bump stops? If not, I'm still happy with the drop / ride and I'll just live with it.


asu174 - I'm a little in the dark about your feud with 92 SE-R 02 SE but you mentioned that there was some big incident in the Feedback Forum. Do you have a link to that thread? I love drama (when it's not involving me )
spta--all I can say is...shoulda gone maxspeed route...

also, long story short--92SE-R get's drunk off his a$$, goes home and posts mad flames just for kicks....ppl on this site take **** to heart and flame back...he deleted thread cuz it got out of hand...
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 06:07 AM
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You can't trim the bump stops while their on the car. Your better off just getting the KYB covers because trimming the 5th gen bump stops pretty much distroys the boot. It's a one piece design as compaired to the 4th gen 2 piece design where we can pull only the bump stop out, trim it and reinstall it up into the dust cover.

One other comment I have to make here. The install I did was Tein / Tokico. KYB shocks are pretty firm and sometimes give you a harsh ride when coupled with certain lowering springs. If you read throught the 4th gen forums some guys complain of a bouncy ride with H&R/AGX setups. I was one of them now I'm running Tokico Blues up front and the bouncy or excessivly harsh ride as turned into a smooth completely stock like ride. You guys might be experiancing the same thing with Tein/KYB as us 4th gens feel with H&R/AGX setups. Consider running Blues or Llluminas (when they come out) up front for a much smoother ride.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 06:26 AM
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Originally posted by NT2SHBBY


spta--all I can say is...shoulda gone maxspeed route...

also, long story short--92SE-R get's drunk off his a$$, goes home and posts mad flames just for kicks....ppl on this site take **** to heart and flame back...he deleted thread cuz it got out of hand...
I seriously considered the Maxspeeds...but I really wanted the even low drop. My wheel gap in front (like everyone elses) was much like the one on my 4x4 Explorer

All and all I'm happy with the Teins, I just want it to be less bouncy

I would have like to have seen that thread...people were saying he should have been banned after that. I wanted to see how bad it got
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd
You can't trim the bump stops while their on the car. Your better off just getting the KYB covers because trimming the 5th gen bump stops pretty much distroys the boot. It's a one piece design as compaired to the 4th gen 2 piece design where we can pull only the bump stop out, trim it and reinstall it up into the dust cover.

One other comment I have to make here. The install I did was Tein / Tokico. KYB shocks are pretty firm and sometimes give you a harsh ride when coupled with certain lowering springs. If you read throught the 4th gen forums some guys complain of a bouncy ride with H&R/AGX setups. I was one of them now I'm running Tokico Blues up front and the bouncy or excessivly harsh ride as turned into a smooth completely stock like ride. You guys might be experiancing the same thing with Tein/KYB as us 4th gens feel with H&R/AGX setups. Consider running Blues or Llluminas (when they come out) up front for a much smoother ride.
I took your advice on the KYB bumpstops/boots and the part numbers 108 and 103 are taller than the stock bumpstops. Its almost impossible too get the top-hat bolt too thread using the kyb stops. Just a heads up for other 5th gens going with the tein/gr2 setup.

All the people complaining...just follow metallic97 (william) and look rediculous riding 4x4 with comfort but handling like a$$. I chose the firm ride and I love it. The performance of this combo amazes the $hit out of my in the handling aspect. I can't imagine what JIC's feel like
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by blubyu2k2
I took your advice on the KYB bumpstops/boots and the part numbers 108 and 103 are taller than the stock bumpstops.
Where can I get these KYB Bumpstops?
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by blubyu2k2


I took your advice on the KYB bumpstops/boots and the part numbers 108 and 103 are taller than the stock bumpstops. Its almost impossible too get the top-hat bolt too thread using the kyb stops. Just a heads up for other 5th gens going with the tein/gr2 setup.



You didn't push the boots all the way down over the little nub on the top of the piston. They have no inpact on the top-hat or getting the nut started. You can push them way down the piston shaft completely away from the top of the strut assembly while you put it together. Be sure to pull them back up so the entire shaft is covered.

HINT: A squirt of WD-40 helps get the boot over that nub so it slids down out of the way.

If you put the stock dust cover and the KYB cover side by side, the KYB bump stop portion is almost 1 inch shorter then OEM components.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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that did it , i'm getting tok blues. i am so tired of bouncing around.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd
You can't trim the bump stops while their on the car. Your better off just getting the KYB covers because trimming the 5th gen bump stops pretty much distroys the boot. It's a one piece design as compaired to the 4th gen 2 piece design where we can pull only the bump stop out, trim it and reinstall it up into the dust cover.

One other comment I have to make here. The install I did was Tein / Tokico. KYB shocks are pretty firm and sometimes give you a harsh ride when coupled with certain lowering springs. If you read throught the 4th gen forums some guys complain of a bouncy ride with H&R/AGX setups. I was one of them now I'm running Tokico Blues up front and the bouncy or excessivly harsh ride as turned into a smooth completely stock like ride. You guys might be experiancing the same thing with Tein/KYB as us 4th gens feel with H&R/AGX setups. Consider running Blues or Llluminas (when they come out) up front for a much smoother ride.
Do you think changing just the front ones would help get rid of the bounciness, or would switching to something like Maxspeeds be more worthwhile?
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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Any time you drop a car close to 2" the ride is going to be rough. I had sprint which I think the drop looked completely amazing, but I could not take the roughness of that setup. To me, Maxspeeds are the ultimate spring. Good looking drop, excellent ride and cheaper than all the rest. I really want to ride on the magic tien springs that are supposed to be low but almost stock like because I am not buying it.
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I am not buying it.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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the ride on tein is not at all like stock. complete opposite.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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Tein specifically says to trim the front bump 1.0" and the rear 1.3"...

I'm not having any of these problems with bouncing or overly harsh ride. Maybe it's a quality problem with the springs??!!??
Old Jul 31, 2003 | 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by Quicksilver
Tein specifically says to trim the front bump 1.0" and the rear 1.3"...

I'm not having any of these problems with bouncing or overly harsh ride. Maybe it's a quality problem with the springs??!!??
Or maybe it's ur location...
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Originally posted by busakiller
Or maybe it's ur location...


The roads in NY suck...the Teins just brought them out. If the road is smooth, no problem....it's all the dips that get you.
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Originally posted by spta97




The roads in NY suck...the Teins just brought them out. If the road is smooth, no problem....it's all the dips that get you.
I feel ur pain... Bumps in the roads aren't even bad.. It's just them damm uneven dips in the road that hit hard... I think I'm going to do the Teins coilovers when they come out... 3 inches of travel and I'm only guestamating doesn't give you much to work with when you hit dips...
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Originally posted by busakiller
I feel ur pain... Bumps in the roads aren't even bad.. It's just them damm uneven dips in the road that hit hard... I think I'm going to do the Teins coilovers when they come out... 3 inches of travel and I'm only guestamating doesn't give you much to work with when you hit dips...
Do some research first...where I got my Teins installed the guy said they are a good spring. The Tein coilovers are plauged with noise problems however. I don't think I could handle the coilover ride on my Max.
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Originally posted by spta97


Do some research first...where I got my Teins installed the guy said they are a good spring. The Tein coilovers are plauged with noise problems however. I don't think I could handle the coilover ride on my Max.
Don't get me wrong I luv the spring but with that kinda drop any factory replacement shock isn't going to have much travel.. Have you ever looked inside and seen how much shock you have left??? ummmm not much........
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