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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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BONE STOCK 4th Generation times?

I've looked around a bit and couldn't find many opinions on what bone stock Maxima's can do at the track, assuming a decent launch, average temperature & humidity and no major mechanical malfunctions?

What has your bone stock 4th Generation run? I'm going to take my stock 97 GXE 5spd to the track in a few weeks and I'd like some ideas before I get completely embarassed.

Thanks for the insight. There is some really great info here, especially on launching techniques, tires, etc. Neato.
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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14.9-15.5
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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I think that the fastest stock time here for a 5 speed is either a 14.7 or a 14.8. But the people who ran those times are very good drivers. You could run a 16, who knows? But i would say the average 1/4th mile time for a 5 speed would be a 15.2
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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It all depends on the driver and thier experience. I went to englishtown on wed with my friend and he ran a 16.5 @88. This was his first time ever and wasn't really familiar with the staging lights. His 60' times were 2.7 and 2.8. A decent driver should be around 2.2-2.3 with a stock 5speed. And he's modded too with intake and ypipe(5speed).

I however have run many 15.0s in the past with my 96 se 5speed with intake and ypipe. Those 60' times were 2.3-2.4 so I still have room to improve on my launch. Good luck
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Bone Stock 4th Gen's are very rare.

The only one I know of is an old lady at our church. I park next to her and there is no difference from the outside.
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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mine was bone stock when i bought it...banged out a 15.0 1st and only time to the track with it stock.

also at the track was when i encountered 96sleeper and he told me about the org.
Old Aug 27, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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You'll never run well your first time at the track. Be happy if you run 15's at all.

With practice and reasonably good shifting skills (and decent track/weather) you should be able to run a low-15 @ 91-92 with a 2.3xx 60' time.

With INSANE driving/launching, the car can hit 14's. But you need to pull something in the area of a 2.1-2.2 60' launch which is extremely difficult to get and requires doing very nasty things to the clutch. About 5 or 6 have been able to do this, IIRC. Prerequisites are a decent track and good weather for this as well.

A few have been able to crank out 15.0's their first time at the track only having been driving stick for a few weeks, but I would not consider that the norm.
Old Aug 27, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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Thanks for the info. I'm pretty excited about my first time at the track. I think I'll be happy if I run in the 16s. I've been practicing launches on some of the back roads out here, but I still don't think I've got in the groove yet.
Old Aug 29, 2003 | 06:32 AM
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I would say best 15 flat, to 16 at the high end.
So avg would be 15.5 or 15.6.

the stock clutch just does not hold enough and with the y-pipe still inplace and stock fuel mapping you just dont have that extra pull throughout the powerband.
Old Aug 29, 2003 | 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by bellis
the stock clutch just does not hold enough and with the y-pipe still inplace and stock fuel mapping you just dont have that extra pull throughout the powerband.


Since when can the OEM clutch not hold stock power levels?
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
You'll never run well your first time at the track. Be happy if you run 15's at all.

With practice and reasonably good shifting skills (and decent track/weather) you should be able to run a low-15 @ 91-92 with a 2.3xx 60' time.

With INSANE driving/launching, the car can hit 14's. But you need to pull something in the area of a 2.1-2.2 60' launch which is extremely difficult to get and requires doing very nasty things to the clutch. About 5 or 6 have been able to do this, IIRC. Prerequisites are a decent track and good weather for this as well.

A few have been able to crank out 15.0's their first time at the track only having been driving stick for a few weeks, but I would not consider that the norm.
Hey! I hit a 15.0 the first time i went to the track...lol (with 5 months of driving stick)
altho i had an intake....which doesn't do a hell of a lot...but still not stock

i can't see anyone running slower than 15.3 on a 5spd...experience or not
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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Funny Canadians with their funny money, funny dynos, and funny tracks that always seem to give good times.
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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well canada is a bit cooler. mabye its the temp difference?

I made the mistake of replacing my clutch with an OEM clutch once, They just do not hold like the ACT and others. It makes sub 15 runs harder because of clutch slip. Stock eng or not. Just what i have seen in both my 96 i-30 (5spd) and 97 maxima (5spd)
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:43 AM
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the stock clutch just does not hold enough.

Stock clutch holds plenty.
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bellis
well canada is a bit cooler. mabye its the temp difference?

I made the mistake of replacing my clutch with an OEM clutch once, They just do not hold like the ACT and others. It makes sub 15 runs harder because of clutch slip. Stock eng or not. Just what i have seen in both my 96 i-30 (5spd) and 97 maxima (5spd)
I'm doing 5500rpm clutch drops on slicks with full bolt ons and have been doing so for the past year. I've got more than 200 1/4 mile passes on this clutch. My stock clutch is doing just fine. Perhaps yours has a problem of some kind?
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Funny Canadians with their funny money, funny dynos, and funny tracks that always seem to give good times.
lol...how did nationality come into the picture? haha

the track i went to was not well maintained...and its very hard to launch there. the temps might be cooler...just depends on the time of the year you race in...when the temps get cool the track closes down (october if i recall correctly)

but the people that are doing 2.2, 2.1 or 2.0 launches without slicks...i'd like to see them do that at our track

i launch off of idle...and can't even floor in first gear or ill blow my run
i find the street MUCH "stickier" than our track...lol
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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my clutch never slips in first, it slips on hard fast shifts with high rpm
Old Sep 12, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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stock clutch

Originally Posted by SteVTEC


Since when can the OEM clutch not hold stock power levels?
i hear ya bud. take a look at my sig, the miles on my clutch, and then tell me the stock clutch does not do a good job.
Old Sep 12, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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hey 2k2, i remember u havin one of the fastest autos, and ur best on slicks were like 13.6 13.7? and on street tires 14.2?

u plan to try to squeeze high 13s w/out slicks but with the headers sometime on street tires?

and i thought headers would help more than 2 tenths of a second?
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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by maxima666
I've looked around a bit and couldn't find many opinions on what bone stock Maxima's can do at the track, assuming a decent launch, average temperature & humidity and no major mechanical malfunctions?

What has your bone stock 4th Generation run? I'm going to take my stock 97 GXE 5spd to the track in a few weeks and I'd like some ideas before I get completely embarassed.

Thanks for the insight. There is some really great info here, especially on launching techniques, tires, etc. Neato.

My best stock time was a 14.715@92.34. That was in a 97 SE 5 Speed.

I launched at around 3k rpms and shifted into 4th at around 6,100, redline in the lower gears.

Old Sep 13, 2003 | 12:07 AM
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CullenJ76 The stock clutch works fine for day to day driving which is what it was designed for. As was the car, its hardly a dragster, and most definately low on the bar as far as suspension goes(stock) anyway. But its totally reliable. cheaper than other cars in its class and with the proper upgrades can be a decent handeling and powerful car. Right now I feel my car is handeling extremelly well I love it. It does have good power. Between red lights and on a slow rool I love to punch the gas anf feel te power. However, I have a turbo porsche, so the maxima is the daily driver. and going from one to other are two different cars all together. You miss that boost quick. Man a S/C or Turbo is tempting. the SC probably would not satisfy me since Im looking for that sudden boost in power that only a turbo gives.


VeeTec, It looks like we run similar 1/4 miles time. My best is a bit lower but not much and it could be basically considered equal. What do you do 0-60 in 6 to 6.25. 5-60 in about 6.5 or 6.75? Thats what i normally see. Now these cars just are not made for that though. Its fun but costly. same applies here as it does with the porsche. you play you pay!
I laugh at people that have bmw 328s and 235's. People that get the lower lever mercedes for status. Our cars are faster, easier to maintain and can be made to handle as good or better.

But they are not dragsters. And they are front wheel drive. Thats a bid deal to me becuase i really dont like the feel in comparison. I wish there were an easy way to convert. now the only option is the heavy older Q45 or a newer G35.
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 05:32 AM
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15.6 but if I wieghed a little less I would have banged out 15.4 and thats in an auto.
Old Nov 15, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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MEVI????
Not sure about this one yet. I am not sure that the gains are worth $700. It is a variable intake manifold. Does not add much peak HP but has been dynoed to add over 50 more HP across the RPM range from about 5000 rpm and up. The problem is you lose HP and TQ throughout the RPM range before 5000 rpm compared with stock.

Do U Guys think its worth it? and Where can I get one? (Link, Phone #)
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I think the MEVI is worth it if you drive on the highway and really like to take your car completely though the gears. My car does not have a MEVI and when I drive it aroudn 5500RPM its like I hit a brick wall. It might hurt your 0-60 or 1/4 slightly, but on the highway it would definately make up for it. I plan on doing this to my 5 spd maxima after i sell my Infinity I-30 and upgrade a turbo in another car I have.
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Originally Posted by bellis
VeeTec, It looks like we run similar 1/4 miles time. My best is a bit lower but not much and it could be basically considered equal. What do you do 0-60 in 6 to 6.25. 5-60 in about 6.5 or 6.75? Thats what i normally see. Now these cars just are not made for that though. Its fun but costly. same applies here as it does with the porsche. you play you pay!
I laugh at people that have bmw 328s and 235's. People that get the lower lever mercedes for status. Our cars are faster, easier to maintain and can be made to handle as good or better.

But they are not dragsters. And they are front wheel drive. Thats a bid deal to me becuase i really dont like the feel in comparison. I wish there were an easy way to convert. now the only option is the heavy older Q45 or a newer G35.
??

Sorry I didn't respond in a timely manner. I don't visit here as much now that I don't own my Maxima anymore.

I don't know what the 0-60 time is, as the track doesn't give that time. The slip I posted was completely stock, and it was very easy to launch with the Michelin XGT V4's. I ended up getting a Cattman Y-Pipe, JWT Intake and JWT clutch, at which time I was running 14.4's with worse launches on Eagle RS-A's.
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