Check this out...
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=00435633

Now, I must ask, where is our free maint. and $500??? Mazda got on this immediately. Nissan has done everything to ignore us. I'd like to see what the HP is at the wheels...If their "250" is coming up like our "255"...now that they're at 238, which is closer to what we're probably pulling.

 

Amazing how, with some of the Mazda being owned by Ford smart-a$$ comments when the RX-8 first appeared in discussion here, they are the ones behaving like a professional automobile maker and fessing up right out of the box.

 

Now, that's just make me mad 'cause Nissan has so many issues w/the 00-03 Maxima...and nothing have been resolved! The Hp's issue is one thing but the paint quality really sucks!

 

I just sent the web editor a note about the Nissan issue, pleading for them to do an expose on the Maxima. Here's the email address: mfloyd@crain.com

 

how is it that less hp=same 0-60 time?

 

maybe they gave the correct 0-60 time, they just overrated the hp...
like they tested a car which they thought had 247hp.. but later turns out to only be 238.... 0-60 times will remain unaffected...??? just guessing...

 

Yeah, sounds right to me. What ****es me off is that Nissan knows they overrated their cars...but they refuse to change the ratings. The paint story is a whole nother issue...at least Mazda reales that people are buying the cars for HP reasons, and when they market the car at 247, a lot of people buy it just for that fact. Nissan needs to get spanked on this because they're getting away with murder on all their cars.

 

I'm sure that we've all done our fair share of *****ing so instead lets email this guy at the magazine. His address is couple posts up... Lets get er done!

 

just sent a note too.

 

I read at rx8forums.com (I think that's the site) that they're dynoing at 170-180 rwhp. Yes, stock RX-8 manual, broken in, proper fuel: 170-180 rwhp. That's more like 210hp. STILL not even close to 238hp A buddy of mine from the TSX forums linked me to a thread there and they had two stock dynos in that area.


At least in the 02/03 Maxima "255 HP" over-rating case you still got a crap load more torque than advertised. 246tq is more like 260-265tq. But the Altima is the same, so that was still really shady of Nissan too.

 

yeah, that became more obvious to me later, I just wan't thinking--thanks though

 

so does this mean an auto 2k2 can take manual rx8?

 

G'day

Just a thought, I wonder if the HP on the 350Z is correct, I drove one and I was expecting a lot more

Take Care

 

I read on the rx8 forums that the only reason Mazda are offering a rebate is because they advertised it on the window sticker saying it had 247 hp. But I am pretty sure Nissan did it too on the maxima window sticker. The 2k2 and 2k3 Maxima owners get screwed over and Mazda is taking care of their customers. Nissan should learn from this.

 

I would bet not..I drove it to and was totally uninspired by the lack of power

 

My buddy who browses the RX8 forums said one guy got "killed" by a new Solara (3.3L, 225hp/240tq, 5spd auto), so a 2k2 Max auto should be able to take one with ease. And yes, that was a manual RX8.


Althought street racing doesn't always mean much, so take that for what it's worth.

 

The difference between the G35c/350Z and the 02/03 Maxima is non-existant. I drove the G35 and had the same experiance. If you have never driven a 02/03 Maxima it would be fast as hell...after driving a Maxima it just handles better. I would love to get one of those, but I would require a twin turbo in it. Looks like Nissan is out for my next car.

 

Well, Nissan puts themselves in a pickle. Here's what they do...
Altima 240hp (overrated)
Maxima 255hp (overrated...but it has to be more than altima)
G35 (Oh crap, we have the maxima at 255...better add some more...)
G35C (2 doors are supposed to be faster...add another 20hp. 280!)
350Z (Well, this is the Z after all..where did we leave off??)

Get the idea? If they had just started at 220 like they should have...but hey, we have a 3.5, not a 3.0 like everyone else. That's where the torque comes from, but our HP sucks.

 

 

You know what also confuses me??? Since the VQ35DE has come to market, every single vehicle Nissan makes (except the 350z) with that engine has hp ratings in multiples of 5 like Nissan just takes a guess at what the actual horsepower is and rounds up to the nearest multiple of 5... any ideas about that? Seem's fishy to me, perhaps the only vehicle they've ever dynoed with the 3.5 is the 350z...

Bryan

 

For the 2003 model altimas, nissan magically pulled 5 hp out of their *** on the altima, claimed it to be 245. Probably did that because the accord has 240. Unless nissan has better warranty/service/PAINT I won't be buying one next time.

 

I know this is my first and last one.

 

And no test of the Altima has beat the Motorweek Runs 240hp 1st year times of 5.9 0-60 and 14.4@ 100mph

I guess those 5 extra ponies did not help

 

Must have been a bigger driver.

 

Well if we have all been decived, lets do something about it. I shure as h-ll am ****ed if we got screwed. I live with an atterney, and if you guys give me enough info maybe one of us can start a class action?

 

I'd love to help.
lemme search.

 

will take a bit of reading since its the longest active thread by over 120 posts

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=166163

 

Getting nissan to say "oh we lied about the hp rating" or getting nissan to "give us some money back because they LIED to us", will just be a fantasy. We might as well teach rocket science to a bunch of rocks! I've given up about the paint issue and the pathetic nissan service/warranty crew. If Nissan won't even do anything about the paint on our Maxima, you think they'll actually care about the hp? I've given up on nissan. IM RIDING THE BUS TO WORK AND SCHOOL DAMNIT. lol.

All I have to say is that I used to own a 99 Accord and even they have better warranty issues then Nissan. At least the honda dealers i've been to doesn't say: "We can not duplicate the problem" and toss you away.

 

THAT is what you should be sending in your emails to the magazine editor.

 

My engine has as much power as it's supposed to...

 

The reason Mazda is being classy and owning up to this is that they are not controlled by Ford. Ford has a 40% stake in Mazda so it is not considered part of the Ford family like wholly owned Volvo, Jag and Aston Martin. But also don't forget that Ford made good on the under powered/ over rated Cobras a few years ago.

 

Not sure about being classy...it seems they got caught lying again. Don't forget back in 2001 the "new & improved" Miata with variable valve timing and the wonderful bump from 140hp to 155hp, but then whoops we meant 142hp...and we'll buy them back if you want or give the $500/extended maintenance deal - sound familiar? The really sad thing is even these "142hp" Miatas are dynoing EXACTLY the same as '99 140hp Miatas

 

Lets not forget...How much could this have cost them? They have not sold that many...I have yet to see one

 

IMO....90% of Maxima owners (and not necessarily people that visit this site) wouldn't know the difference anyways and couldn't care less. This is more than likely Nissan's perspective on the whole thing.

 

I think your 10% might be even a bit on the high side. And I agree with you totally...

If I can't feel much of a difference between my car and the Z...I sure as hell am not going to feel a 10-15 horse difference

 

Either Nissan is playing games with the numbers or the unit they measure/rate their engines on, is overdue for recalibration.

Either way we were robbed. I would really love to, or see someone stick it to Nissan on just one issue.

HP overrating/ inadequate brakes / water paint
SHIFT_woosh

 

Yeah, exactly. I drove one too and .... like where's the beef? Anyway, is the 2k HP rating accurate?

Safe holiday everyone !!