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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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I tried everything to stop my rear brakes from squealing..

They are Axxis metal master pads. I tried to lube everything and I used anti squeal compound. Should I just give up and throw the OEM back on?
Old Oct 8, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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sand the surface of the pads clean with garnett sandpaper (regular paper will leave deposists on the pads and cause problems later), and also do the same with the surface of the rotors, but use finer paper.

I've also used some medium grit steel wool and straight CLR cleaner to clean up the rotors with decent success. it'll remove the deposits off the iron and give you a clean surface to re-bed the pads.
Old Oct 8, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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The squeaks are vibrations. I believe the vibrations come from the ends of the brake pads. There should be two "ears" that each pad has so it can ride inside a channel on the caliper. It's this contact that I think makes the noise. If the "ears" are too big file them down a little. Clean the two "ears" and the corresponding caliper channels well. Then consider dabbing just a tad of high temp axle grease where you can see contact between the "ears" and caliper channel. Lots of cars have thin metallic shims that fit into the caliper channels to help with the noise vibrations.
Old Oct 8, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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See item 34 and 35 to see the two "ears".

Old Oct 8, 2003 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 1MAX2NV
They are Axxis metal master pads. I tried to lube everything and I used anti squeal compound. Should I just give up and throw the OEM back on?
I went back to OEM's and the squealing stopped. Albany pads are on my car (rear) and they don't squeal either. You can get albany pads at autozone.
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Thanks for the info guys.
Old Oct 8, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The squeaks are vibrations. I believe the vibrations come from the ends of the brake pads. There should be two "ears" that each pad has so it can ride inside a channel on the caliper. It's this contact that I think makes the noise. If the "ears" are too big file them down a little. Clean the two "ears" and the corresponding caliper channels well. Then consider dabbing just a tad of high temp axle grease where you can see contact between the "ears" and caliper channel. Lots of cars have thin metallic shims that fit into the caliper channels to help with the noise vibrations.
that's good info. I have the squeeling problem too, so i will try this. Thanks
Old Oct 8, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Thanks for the info guys.
Does it make different sound in reverse than it does when moving forward?
Old Oct 8, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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Put a Stop squeaks compound in between 35 and 36 and also 34 and 33. This should eliminate the vibration noise problem. Aslo after sanding down your rotors, give is a good shot of brake cleaner to remove the dust particles.

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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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hmmm very dgood info in this thread.
Old Oct 8, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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You mean put that silicone rubber stuff in the channels? Won't that just goop the hell out of those areas and prevent the pads from sliding back and forth?? If it's lubricant, high temp grease is the same thing I suggested.

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Put a Stop squeaks compound in between 35 and 36 and also 34 and 33. This should eliminate the vibration noise problem. Aslo after sanding down your rotors, give is a good shot of brake cleaner to remove the dust particles.
Old Oct 8, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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Axxis pads love to squeek.

You going back to organic materials?
Old Oct 9, 2003 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You mean put that silicone rubber stuff in the channels? Won't that just goop the hell out of those areas and prevent the pads from sliding back and forth?? If it's lubricant, high temp grease is the same thing I suggested.
Any good mechanic would know what i'm talking about. The ones me and my friends has been using is either red or blue in color.
Old Oct 9, 2003 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by EZEMaxima
Any good mechanic would know what i'm talking about. The ones me and my friends has been using is either red or blue in color.
I believe you are talking about a orangish/redish silicon disc brake lubricant, which works when applied correctly, however it is not required. Also having the knowledge that using the stuff Jeff suggested will work would point to them being a 'better mechanic' instead of knowing about something that can be bought at any automotive store/outlet.
Old Oct 9, 2003 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The squeaks are vibrations. I believe the vibrations come from the ends of the brake pads.
Jeff is right. It took me 6 months to quiet down my Metal Masters. Item 38 and 39 are the key items. The pad must be held snugly in the torque member bracket. You can shim those clips very slightly to hold the pad better. Remove the bottom clip, clean the surface where it clips on the bracket and place one small square of black tape under it. Put the clip over the tape and place the pads back in. The black tape shims it about 1mm. Check to see if the pads are held securely in place. They should not be able to move up and down at all, but still be able to slide in and out. If there still to loose do the same thing to the top clip.

My Metal Masters were very quiet for the first 6 months, then the right rear started squealing. I tried replacing all the hardware, regreasing everything and it always came back within 2 weeks.

It's been almost 3 months since I shimmed the pads, as described above, and my brakes have been completely silent ever since. As Jeff said, noise is vibration. You need to make sure everything is snug before the caliper is placed back on.

Good luck!
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