hey i recently purchase a 1991 nissan maxima also known as a nissan u11 bluebird with the vg20et engine in it. its stock as and i'm interested in eventually making this thing haul ****. any minor mods or info on the car would be appreciated, because people around here have no idea. thanks heaps

 

Do you by chance mean a VG30E no T motor?

 

no there is a VG20ET in the Bluebird(he must not be from the US)

not sure what mods he can do?? what type of turbo does it use.....you could probably just follow the path of the turbo Z31(VG30ET) folks-->
z31.com , zcar.com

 

the bluebird is very cool.
do you have any pictures that you can share with us. i'm quite interested in seeing the engine and interior.

 

isnt the bluebird like a atima platform

 

the motor looks like the JDM VG30ET....but now that I think of it, I could have also sworn the Bluebird came with the CA series motor originally

and I was pretty sure the Stanza/Altima was the US equivalent to the the Bluebird not the Maxima if you look at the pics the U11 resembles a first gen Alty if I remember correctly

 

i heard that because of how narrow the streets are in parts of europe and elsewhere they made the bluebird with electronical fold in mirrors. i say that's PIMP!

 

quite a lot of japanese cars from the 90's have electronic fold in mirrors. i have stock heated electronic fold in mirrors on my max.

 

Yep. Even the Skylines have 'em. As a matter of fact, I've got a set of mirrors from a Skyline that will end up being my winter project for my Max.

 

yeah, i got the stock heated fold in mirrors too! even if they get knocked forwards, the motor will still bring them back to position.

BTW: a 91 bluebird would be a U12 rather than a U11 wouldn't it? i used to have a 88 U12 Attessa shape, with a 1800 manual, twin spark. was great on gas, but real slow..

 

What the hell is a Bluebird? Would appreciate some info to increase my fund of Maxima knowledge! Thanks.

 

i believe a nissan stanza? or altima? one of those

 

the old 90ish bluebirds came from japan with CA18DET and 4wd or something as well.. not all that fast however heh.

 

i thought bluebird was the 200sx/sentra platform... cause u can get a sr20det-bluebird and i thought it went into the 200sx/sentra, or im just completely off and about to get bashed

 

The U11 Bluebird he refers to is better known here as the U110 Stanza. Nissan basicly modified the old Maxima platform and started using it for the Bluebird (510,Stanza,Altima here in the states) The VG20E and ET are pretty much an Aus only engine. There was even a Z31 with the VG20E oddly called the 300sx. Ironic considering we got an S12 here with a VG30E and it was still called the 200sx. VG33ET would be my best sugestion for an engine swap.

 

I won't bash you, but I will take the oportunity to point out my Sig.

 

you heard right! it does have fold in mirrors, you just gotta press a button.

 

yeah i dont live in the us i live in aust, so i dont knoe much about my car, it was imported from japan a few years back and thats all i know.

 

im not to sure what size turbo it is it seems similar to about a t28 im thinking of putting a front mount and a t03 turbo on it evntuly with a new computer. im running 10psi of boost through the standard turbo and no standard v6 comes close to my max..... and thats the way i like it hehe and yes ppl it is a fwd

 

Okay, listen up, because here's the skinny on the almighty Nissan Bluebird:

Started out back in the 60's under the Japanese manuacturer Prince which was bought out by Nissan Corp.
Early 70s to 1980, 710 series Bluebird, known as Datsun 180B & 200B - L series 4 pot engine, RWD. 1980 - 1983 saw the 910 series Bluebird with same engines - L16, L18 & L20 (plus LD20 - Diesel), RWD. Variants of 710 & 910 include 2 door hardtop, 4 door sedan & wagon.
U11 Bluebird introduced late 83 (early 84 in some markets) which ran to 1986 / 87. FWD with CA series engines - CA16, CA18 & CA20. Known as Stanza in US. U11 platform also basis for 2nd gen Maxima - in Japan has VG20E & ET engine - probably built the VG30E for export markets. Yes, VG20ET is turbocharged. Non US Bluebird variants are 4 door sedan, 4 door hardtop & wagon. Only JDM hardtops had 4wd option (badged as SSS - ATTESSA).
U12 introduced 87 / 88 - a better looking car but not as well liked. Still with same CA series engines. Still known as Stanza in US - and Infiniti's Altima. Two variants - 4 door sedan & hardtop. Only JDM hardtops had 4wd option (badged as SSS - ATTESSA). NZ, at least, still made old U11 wagon with a few U12 parts up until introduction of U13. Late model wagons are great cars - my Brother has had his for 8 years - 280 000 kilometers (175k miles) on same engine & still not smoking!.
U13 introduced in late 91 / early 92 - 1996. Now with SR series engines.
Bluebird / Stanza / Altima's still in production. U13 Bluebird successfully marketed as "4 door sports cars" - esp SSS - ATTESSA models. 3rd gen Maxima's still seen as a Luxury Car for executives, not a sports car. NZ stopped selling U13 ex-factory in 1996 - switched to Euro inspired Primera which is similar sized. Bluebird's available ex-JDM - U13 models are in my opinion the nicest looking, followed by U11 ('cause I use to own a mean looking one).
In Britain, U11 Bluebird superceded by T12 - basically a Euro built rebodied U11. Big mistake. Primera's introduced 1988 to stop the red ink...
Australia's U12 late model Bluebirds renamed Pintara & rebadged as Ford Corsair - should have gone for U13 as much better car. U12 & Pintara helped kill off Nissan Australia as was "tweaked" for Aussie conditions & not as well built as Japanese / NZ models (incidently, for all you NZ & Aussies, Ford NZ assembled a better built Falcon / Fairmont than Australia right up to the mid 90's when Ford NZ stopped building cars).

NZ stopped building Bluebird's in mid 90's - Nissan NZ closed down assembly due to tariff restrictions on imported cars being completely abolished (dumb move on Govt...).


Electric fold in mirrors: Japan has car width & engine size restrictions. Hence JDM having smaller engines than export markets. The bigger the engine capacity, the more you pay to licence it for the road. Similarly, the wider the car, the more you pay. Electric fold in mirrors not only save money, it means you're less likely to get them knocked off by delivery trucks etc. They're not just fitted because of narrow streets of Japan & Europe!

BTW: My Max has electric fold in mirrors - not an option on NZ new Max's (better cars than JDM as hold value). I retrofitted the inners off a U12 Bluebird onto my Max as they're exactly the same mirror (my Max came with color matched mirror shells, which is why I only changed the inner mechanism). Replaced the switch & hooked up two extra wires each side. Cost of complete mirror is NZ$16 per side, switch around NZ$8 from a U-Pull-It type junkyard.
I'm sure the Skyline's used a different mirror shape - good luck with project.

 

If you've bought a U11 Bluebird / Maxima, & someone says it's 1991, you've been ripped! U11's only made from 84 - 88 - 3rd gens introduced worldwide in 1989.
Search the 2nd gen forum for info on your Max - you should find plenty of info.

 

Hmmm... you and I might have to talk about those mirrors, cuz you're right! The Skyline mirrors are slightly different in shape to Max mirrors. At least on the base (the part that attaches to the car) it is. That's where I'm having my roadblock.

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