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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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Stock Clutch/Lightened Flywheel ???

Alright right now I have an ACT/Lightened Fidanza Flywheel, and I was considering changing it out for a stock clutch but keeping my Fidanza Flywheel because the chatter is getting to me as a daily driver and I really love my LSD tranny and all the posts that people have been puttin up about blown trannies threw gears and not shifts..

my main question is how is the stock clutch matched up with the Fidanza Flywheel ??? Smooth ??

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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 07:21 PM
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Should be just fine. Might make the stock unit work even better.
Old Nov 13, 2003 | 07:42 PM
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Works fine for me. I have done about 50 1/4 passes with my findanza and OE clutch with no problems. I have been pulling really good 60' with the combo as well.
Old Nov 13, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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Is this combo Smooth ??? I am really sick of the ACT clutch and being scared to open my car up in anticipation of a 2K$ bill and no more LSD

Im also worried about slipping...any problems with that ??


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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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I've got about 6k miles on a stock clutch and Fidanza flywheel. As far as drivability is concerned, you won't notice much of a difference at all. Mine's very smooth. No slipping so far.
Old Nov 13, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
Is this combo Smooth ??? I am really sick of the ACT clutch and being scared to open my car up in anticipation of a 2K$ bill and no more LSD

Im also worried about slipping...any problems with that ??


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The clutch itself will not cause damage to the tranny if you open it up. The damage comes from banging gears (power shifting) and/or not properly rev-matching downshifts. Simply flooring it will do no harm to the transmission.
Old Nov 13, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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No chatter, No problems, No concerns
Old Nov 13, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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Strong enough for N/A power...All bolt ons including VI and ECU
Old Nov 13, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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Strong enough for N/A power...All bolt ons including VI and ECU
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 05:14 AM
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man i dont get it, I've had the ACT for over 2 years no, and the chatter went away a while ago and it engages like stock, yet if i open it up grabs like a monkeys fist. I honestly would blame drivers over the quality of the product. Everyone who gets a clutch then just wants to slam every gear is gonna have problems.
Old Nov 14, 2003 | 06:23 AM
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No I understand that but people have been having failures threw the gears and not at shifts....plus I dont think the chatter is going away, the ACT doesnt make my car much faster just more violent, and people are running good times with Stock OEM clutchs...(the best times N/A were with stock clutches)

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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 06:36 AM
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The point of a clutch with more clamping force is to hold more power, substantialy more power. So unless your making over 250lbs of torque using an ACT clutch is just to be able to say "I have stage 2 clutch yada yada yada...."
Old Nov 14, 2003 | 08:26 AM
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Just keep in mind that the lighter flywheel will make the rpms drop a lot quicker between shifts and may make it slightly harder to start out smoothly. I have a UDP and while it makes the motor more eager to rev, it does make it a little harder to take off smoothly and shift gears. I also find it harder to rev match my downshifts. Seeing that a lightened flywheel removes even more rotational weight, I'd think things would be even more drastic. The flywheel shouldn't cause chatter though.


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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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He already has the Findanza. From my experience and from the many posts of others, the Fidanza has not really affected drivability at all. This unit is about 1/2 the weight of the stocker. Maybe a little less than 1/2 with the ring gear. This seems to be the limit of how light you can make the flywheel w/o affecting drivability to any degree. It takes a total of about 5 minutes to get used to it and after that, you don't even think about it. The UR flywheel is ONE THIRD the weight of the stocker. That's much too light for a daily driver IMHO.

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Just keep in mind that the lighter flywheel will make the rpms drop a lot quicker between shifts and may make it slightly harder to start out smoothly. I have a UDP and while it makes the motor more eager to rev, it does make it a little harder to take off smoothly and shift gears. I also find it harder to rev match my downshifts. Seeing that a lightened flywheel removes even more rotational weight, I'd think things would be even more drastic. The flywheel shouldn't cause chatter though.


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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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Feels fine to me. no driveability problems either, I can drive it smooth as an auto if I wanted to.
Old Nov 14, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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From what I hear lately the ACT will tear up your tranny. Apparently the ACT and our 5spds don't work well together. The clamping force it too much for the tranny to handle...
Old Nov 15, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ivelweyz
From what I hear lately the ACT will tear up your tranny. Apparently the ACT and our 5spds don't work well together. The clamping force it too much for the tranny to handle...
You're kidding right?? Like I said earlier, damage comes from power shifting and/or not properly rev-matching (read driving habits)...Doesn't matter what the clamping force on a clutch is. As long as you don't shock the tranny with abrupt engagement, the only limitation will be the amount of the TQ the tranny can take, period. Saying a specific clutch will ruin your transmission makes just as much sense as rating clutches by horsepower...
Old Nov 15, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by IwANnAMaX96
You're kidding right?? Like I said earlier, damage comes from power shifting and/or not properly rev-matching (read driving habits)...Doesn't matter what the clamping force on a clutch is. As long as you don't shock the tranny with abrupt engagement, the only limitation will be the amount of the TQ the tranny can take, period. Saying a specific clutch will ruin your transmission makes just as much sense as rating clutches by horsepower...
True, but I can happily slam the gear on my stock clutch without fear of munching a gear. Doing the same thing with the ACT and you're walking on egg shells my friend. The ACT is fine as long as you don't slam the gears and I'm not talking about power shifting either, but what good is a performance clutch if you can't rip thru the gears?


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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 06:46 AM
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They are specifically designed to reduce weight and inertia for better engine response.

http://www.mitsubishigraveyard.com/direct.html

I am A direct Dealer of Daikin (O.E.M.) and Exedy Clutchs
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