As promised, I said I would come back and let you know about my new ride.

Background: Sold Max in May this year, when I heard about the Subaru STI coming out.

I have had it 1 week tomorrow (250 miles driven) and am still breaking it in-never been over 3000 RPMs/80MPH. But, I can tell you the handling is incredible: steering and sway is so tight and stable. Very fun to drive even at low speeds.

Stock Details:
Turbo-charged & Intercooled 2.5 liter
6 speed short-throw shifter
Four-wheel drive
Dyno 255whp/260t
0-60 4.6-5.2 (depending on driver, surface, launch, etc...)
Quarter 13.4 - 12.9 (see above)
Drive-Controlled-Differential (choose the % of pwr to bck/frnt wheels)

I already have a CAI installed, and have a lightened pulley on the way, together good for 15-20 whp.

(http://www.imprezawrxsti.com/postnuk...e7b0cbcee7102a) Here is link to a pic I took for my hood scoop and matching grill screen install.

GPmoto has come out w/ a stage 3 kit: intake, exhaust, headers and a plug-n-play chip (no tuning required). They dyno'd 3 STIs, and got 365whp/375t. Everything else completely stock! I will be doing this upgrade in the spring (tax refund).

Anyway, I agree the STI doens't have near the style and grace of my Maxima and the STI org memebers are pompous snotty A55holes for the most part (I really miss you Maxima.org guys when it comes to posting and chatting); but.... for the same $3000 I spent on my Maxima to get 265whp I can have 365whp on my STI (pushed through non-slip 4 wheel drive nonetheless), and still have room for 5. That's hard to agrue with.

That's my story. Take care all.

{BTW: Don @ Mobiletek, I haven't forgotten how you stole my $1000.}

 

Dyno 255whp/260t... it does that on the dyno, or are those subaru corporate numbers?

I'm not a subaru fan but it is a nice car...congrats.

 

should be dyno... they have almost 300 crank hp

 

I'm not going to give a front...... I'm jealous man-
Good luck w/ your AWD beast!

 

if yan want the most bang for the buck, seems that the STI is the way to go right now. I gotta say, I LOVE the sound of those cars with the right exhaust. Its like a V8... dunno why, but it sounds excellent. Glad to see you're enjoying the ride tho, I'll be sure I dont race ya

 

they sound like a locomotive........psssssst

 

So, how's the juice up to 3,000?! Does it just blow the max away? Or just until the turbo kicks in? Peace in the middle east........

 

Nice....cant say i like the scoop with the grille but thats a bad *** car. Check out Vishnutuning.com. Their stage 3 WRX (not sti) throws down 375whp on a dyno dynamics (i.e. more like 430whp on dynojet). They will be doing some ill ish with the STi.

 

whenever i post on nasioc.com i get nice responses? weird...

congrads on the new ride -- if i may ask, how much did you pay for it? I know dealers are raping you guys..

 

I just test drove the STI over the past weekend. Holy Smokes! It had 3500 miles, so the dealer let me go with it. That car has power everywhere, there's no weak spot. I had just tested the base WRX 2 minutes prior and it's a dog until high RPM's.

If I had the extra money or felt like getting deeper in debt, I'd be all over an STI. Nice work!

 

Very nice.

Yeah I've seen a few STi dynos. Based on those numbers it appears the power figures are a tad under-rated. Maybe more like 330-340 bhp. Yummy

Enjoy!

 

i didnt understand, how are those cars on the high end?

 

STi over the Evo anyday

 

They're actually geared more towards acceleration, but they do have MASSIVE top end power...

 

sweet ride!

 

[QUOTE=2k2wannabe]Dyno 255whp/260t... it does that on the dyno, or are those subaru corporate numbers?
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Those are true wheel dyno numbers, verified by multiple independant tuners. This car is the real deal as far as horsepower goes!

The buzz is that Subaru actually under-stated the horsepower claims (to be conservative), and that it actually puts out 315-320 crank.


[QUOTE=GLE02NJ]
if i may ask, how much did you pay for it? I know dealers are raping you guys..QUOTE]

Most are paying w/in $500 of MSRP (some over MSRP), putting down a deposit, and waiting on a list for 3-4 months. I didn't wait on a list or put down a deposit, and I only paid $31,000 ($1450 under MSRP) loaded w/ options. Relative to the market, I worked this dealer like a pimp works-over his hos.



TO EVERYONE ELSE:
Thanks for all the congrats, and good sentiments. You are all a truely bunch of decent fellows. The best to all of you. Enjoy that new chip that's out for the Max!

 

got any pics of ur car? i would love to see some...

 

ya get some pics of it. Get some doin a 4 wheel smoke show That'd be nice

 

Stickya, congrats on your ride. I test drove a WRX and was impressed, can't even imagine how would STI fare. What kind of options you got? I was told that STI does not come with AC, radio, sunroof, leather. What about the insurance cost compared to Maxima?
Still, there is a difference if you roll up in a Subaru or Infiniti, Acura, Lexus, or a BMW, especially for $30K+. When choosing the next car, the image will matter to me as well as perforance.

 

same here

 

[QUOTE=Stikya]


GPmoto has come out w/ a stage 3 kit: intake, exhaust, headers and a plug-n-play chip (no tuning required). They dyno'd 3 STIs, and got 365whp/375t. Everything else completely stock! I will be doing this upgrade in the spring (tax refund).
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You sure it's not bhp? Thats an amazing amount of power if true. I am also looking into an STi and have been following what Vishnu is doing. They have a prototype stage 1 out for the STI making ~370 bhp, with roughly the same mods.

 

[QUOTE=MAX2000JP]I'm sure. I saw the dynos and they posted crank numbers @ 430HP/440T.

This car is just begging to be upgraded...
Intake: 10
Exhaust: 30
Headers: 25
This is what the tuners' dynos have been showing for the mods.

When you have a turbo/superchargered car, universal chips (i.e. Jet) alone will add 30-50 horsepower, just by raising turbo boost pressure and adding some fuel.

But, add a chip specifically tuned to all those mods above and you get additional synergy: adjustment for additional air flow, timing advance, gas grade (94), complete a/f curve changes, etc...

So, the tuned chip synergy creates 65 additional horsepower (in this case), which isn't outrageous.

Viola: 300 + 10 + 30 + 25 + 65 = 430bhp or 365whp.

 

what kind of turbo upgrades are/will be available for the STI? Compared to the Evo, which one is more modable?

 

Sweet ride!! I love turbo with AWD car. I wish I have AWD on my max which is never gonna happen.

 

APS has already upgraded the turbo on the STI. You can probably check out their site for info. I've heard they have been working on a staged kit, w/ that turbo that has posted 468 at the crank.

People have argued EVO vs STI, since they both came out.
But, I think 1 simple fact is all you need to decide for yourself...

* Look at the stock design and it seems one car is already pushing its limits and one is not even tapped yet:

EVO: 2 liter engine pushing 19psi. to get 271hp
STI: 2.5 liter engine pushing 15PSI to get 300hp
Note GPmoto stage 3 kit (intake, exhaust, headers, & chip)... STI boost @ 18 = 430bhp.

 

Not many options offered.
No radio, roof, or leather.

Seats are a black neoprene-like material, w/ a suede insert. Look very cool and I'm sure are very resiliant.

I got fogs, turbo gauge, auto-dim mirror, armrest extension, wheel locks, upgraded security system, and hood gaurd. That's about all there is.

I'll get aftermarket stereo. My insurance went from about $800/year for the Max to about $1100 for the STI = $25/month increase.

To those that asked:
I will be posting pics today or tomorrow.

 

EVO power!!!

 

I cant wait until the nissan skyline comes to the US in 2006, 2007....

 

Yes! Unfortunatly we'll be paying an NSX price tag to drive one-
I want to see the return of the TT Z(350) hopefully in a couple of years Nissan
will do it

 

That's pretty hard to figure considering they haven't even come up with a pricing scheme yet...

There have been rumors, mind you, but nothing from Nissan/Infiniti on pricing.

 

With all the GT crackheads in the states that have been waiting for the day when they could own one-
it would be very stupid of a recent nearly- bankrupt Nissan not to cash in-
Maybe not as expensive as an NSX ($65-70K) but most defintly over $45K - If Nissan choses to offer a turbo Z in the future it will top out maybe $40K
So they'll strategically price the Skyline so that it has room to play -


Lets all pray that the dont build 'em here usa/mex!

 

I will wait and see some independent dynoes before I believe that. Like I said, Vishnu is running 370 bhp with turbo back and XEDE.

 

Those numbers do seem high- but turbo's respond much better to mods than NA

 

The guys that are importing it now have a tag of around 90k... Ive heard the US skyline will sell around 50k.....

 

hey, whats this thing about bankcruptcy? I thought they were doing pretty good?

 

Yea, but if you researched Vishnu's dyno you'd know that they always rate 35-40HP below every other dyno in the country.

So, a 370 on Vishnu's dyno is at least 405 on any normal dyno. So, that GPmoto 430 w/ the addition of an intake and headers seems quite reasonable.

 

Just be cautious before shelling out the money before seeing an independent dyno. I know all about Vishnu, my friend has his Stage 1 on his EVO. Seems too good to be true.

 

I assume you're referring to the GTR model, as the Skyline is already here. If that comes in at under $50G, I'm in!!!

 

I would think that the Evo would be more modable as that motor (4G63) has been in the US for the past 14 years (Eclipse/Talon/Laser/Galant VR4).

I heard that the Evo has MAD turbo lag; is the same true for the STi?

 

I thought the higher the boost, the more you have to wind the engine/rpms for the whole boost to kick in- So it would seem that under normal driving you'd feel some lag in the mitsu

I'm assuming the extra displacement on the STI would provide more torque down low- lag wouldn't be felt as bad down low-