short throw shifter
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Originally Posted by Max Noob
i got a "cheaper" pacesetter one.. i am content.. it functions fine.. could be a little shorter hieght wise though...
Maybe its the setting you have it on but mine is significantly shorter (height wise) than stock, even my stock cut shifter. I was pleasantly surprised. The good thing about the pacesetter is that its adjustable (not sure if the others are) so if your a taller guy, you can set the shifter short, but not too short.
I have mine set on damn near the shortest setting (4th gear is just sliiightly above where neutral used to be, just so you can put it into prospective), keep in mind it will bang against the heatshield from time to time, so some modding will have to be done to accomodate that.
And i got mine from custommaxima.com for 75bucks shipped...
Its all a matter or preference really.
Eric
I hear lots of good things bougght the pasesetter, but wutever you do, DONT GET THE EBAY ONE!! its aluminum and it broke on me at the ball, aluminum sucks when heated and its weak. I think the pasesetter is steel but im not sure.
They can be had at www.ptuning.com and summit sells them too I think. We get a 5% discount at ptuning IIRC. I've seen some GD's on them too, so look there.
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Words of warning:
Both the Pacesetter and B&M will introduce more vibration through the shifter, the shift pattern is moved ~2" forward, and shifting overall is much harder, especially with the B&M. I had the Pacesetter for about a year before I finally got fed up with the stiffness of the shifter (at 50% throw) and vibration. I bought a B&M because it was suppose to be great. I had that installed for less than a day. The shifter sat so low and the shifts were so short that I had no idea where the shift pattern was and had no faith in hitting the gears hard because detents were barely noticable on a shift. If you want all out performance, then get the Stillen. It keeps the stock height and just reduces the throw. This is what a real STS is. The stock height gives you the leverage without loosing shift feel. These "short" shifters available Nissans, Hondas, Toyotas, etc are of poor design and are really nothing more than a shifter for looks (sits really low) because they all shift like crap.
I'm currently running a 1.5" cut stock shifter and I'm pretty happy.
Dave
Both the Pacesetter and B&M will introduce more vibration through the shifter, the shift pattern is moved ~2" forward, and shifting overall is much harder, especially with the B&M. I had the Pacesetter for about a year before I finally got fed up with the stiffness of the shifter (at 50% throw) and vibration. I bought a B&M because it was suppose to be great. I had that installed for less than a day. The shifter sat so low and the shifts were so short that I had no idea where the shift pattern was and had no faith in hitting the gears hard because detents were barely noticable on a shift. If you want all out performance, then get the Stillen. It keeps the stock height and just reduces the throw. This is what a real STS is. The stock height gives you the leverage without loosing shift feel. These "short" shifters available Nissans, Hondas, Toyotas, etc are of poor design and are really nothing more than a shifter for looks (sits really low) because they all shift like crap.
I'm currently running a 1.5" cut stock shifter and I'm pretty happy.
Dave
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Originally Posted by Dave B
Words of warning:
Both the Pacesetter and B&M will introduce more vibration through the shifter, the shift pattern is moved ~2" forward, and shifting overall is much harder, especially with the B&M. I had the Pacesetter for about a year before I finally got fed up with the stiffness of the shifter (at 50% throw) and vibration. I bought a B&M because it was suppose to be great. I had that installed for less than a day. The shifter sat so low and the shifts were so short that I had no idea where the shift pattern was and had no faith in hitting the gears hard because detents were barely noticable on a shift. If you want all out performance, then get the Stillen. It keeps the stock height and just reduces the throw. This is what a real STS is. The stock height gives you the leverage without loosing shift feel. These "short" shifters available Nissans, Hondas, Toyotas, etc are of poor design and are really nothing more than a shifter for looks (sits really low) because they all shift like crap.
I'm currently running a 1.5" cut stock shifter and I'm pretty happy.
Dave
Both the Pacesetter and B&M will introduce more vibration through the shifter, the shift pattern is moved ~2" forward, and shifting overall is much harder, especially with the B&M. I had the Pacesetter for about a year before I finally got fed up with the stiffness of the shifter (at 50% throw) and vibration. I bought a B&M because it was suppose to be great. I had that installed for less than a day. The shifter sat so low and the shifts were so short that I had no idea where the shift pattern was and had no faith in hitting the gears hard because detents were barely noticable on a shift. If you want all out performance, then get the Stillen. It keeps the stock height and just reduces the throw. This is what a real STS is. The stock height gives you the leverage without loosing shift feel. These "short" shifters available Nissans, Hondas, Toyotas, etc are of poor design and are really nothing more than a shifter for looks (sits really low) because they all shift like crap.
I'm currently running a 1.5" cut stock shifter and I'm pretty happy.
Dave
However, i can say it definately takes more effort to get it into gear and sometimes while just cruising around town (not banging gears) its a PITA to get it into 1st and 3rd gear sometimes. Takes some effort. For me, the raised shift pattern is a plus. Im not exactly the tallest guy (5' 6"
) so the elevated shift pattern along with the shorter throws really suits me. That, along with my stiffer more aggressive clutch, just makes me think im driving a racier car
Eric
Not DAVEB the parts guy
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Yeah, for some people the shift pattern might be better for them. For my 6' 2" frame and the seat far back, the forward shift pattern isn't very comfortable. I couldn't handle the shiftness and notchiness of the shifter and it didn't seem to go with the Maxima's light and nimble controls. I'm really focused on refinement and I'm probably in the minority that doesn't like aftermarket shifters. I just want people to know that there are compromises.
Dave
Dave
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Originally Posted by Dave B
Yeah, for some people the shift pattern might be better for them. For my 6' 2" frame and the seat far back, the forward shift pattern isn't very comfortable. I couldn't handle the shiftness and notchiness of the shifter and it didn't seem to go with the Maxima's light and nimble controls. I'm really focused on refinement and I'm probably in the minority that doesn't like aftermarket shifters. I just want people to know that there are compromises.
Dave
Dave
yeah i'm thinking of changing my pacesetter to a less harsh setting... right now mine is at the limit... i mean it's only 2 inches of distance from gear to gear... lol...
I'm thinking of just putting it at around half for a while. everyone that's tried my car is like WTF! wheres the gears???
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