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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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BlehmCo. RSTB Install/Review

I just finished installing my new rstb, courtesy of Matt93SE. It seems to be made very well, has quality welds, and the fit is perfect. The factory dust covers even went back on! Install time was around 45 min. for me, since my rear seat was being a PITA. The seat went back on fine, and the bar fits nicely and doesnt get in the way of anything. I'll post again tonight after the road test.

Well since the roads were wet, I didnt really get to push the limits. From what I did test, though, it works awesome! The whole car feels much tighter and more controllable. It almost feels like I have my 17" wheels on in terms of grip! Body roll seems to be reduced also, but that could just be in my head. The rstb makes more of a difference than my fstb, in my opinion. This is an awesome mod, $72 very well spent!

Excellent work Matt! Did you make the endbolts?
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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matt makes good stuff, i look forward to getting the rsb also and ground wire strap kit.
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad92SE
I just finished installing my new rstb, courtesy of Matt93SE. It seems to be made very well, has quality welds, and the fit is perfect. The factory dust covers even went back on! Install time was around 45 min. for me, since my rear seat was being a PITA. The seat went back on fine, and the bar fits nicely and doesnt get in the way of anything. I'll post again tonight after the road test.

Well since the roads were wet, I didnt really get to push the limits. From what I did test, though, it works awesome! The whole car feels much tighter and more controllable. It almost feels like I have my 17" wheels on in terms of grip! Body roll seems to be reduced also, but that could just be in my head. The rstb makes more of a difference than my fstb, in my opinion. This is an awesome mod, $72 very well spent!

Excellent work Matt Did you make the endbolts?
thanks! Glad you likey!
I wish I could make the end clevises! those are made by FK bearings, and are the most expensive (and strongest) part of the whole piece! it would be very nice if I could make them, but that requires $$$$$$ equipment that I don't have (yet!)

think the car handles nice now, just wait until you get one of my Lower Tie bars and the rear parallel link kits!
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 07:41 PM
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how much was that rstb? $75?
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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how much was that rstb? $75?

Yup, $75, plus shipping... since you're in Houston, come pick it up and you can save on shipping.

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who you talking to? this IS my day job. (and my night job... and afternoons... and weekends....)
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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Hey Matt, did you make the underbody susepension stuff to clear the wsp sfc's? I'm sure you did considering you have them but I'm just curious as I'd like to buy the full sfc kit along with all of your suspension mods.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
Hey Matt, did you make the underbody susepension stuff to clear the wsp sfc's? I'm sure you did considering you have them but I'm just curious as I'd like to buy the full sfc kit along with all of your suspension mods.
Obviously, I am not Matt93SE, but the answer to your question is yes, all of the suspension mods for sale on his webpage will not interfere with SFCs.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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What he said-- they don't even get close to the SFCs.
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hey matt,
quick question. in your opinion is it worth ordering the st sway bar kit or an addco rsb and the st fsb?
i know the addco is thicker but will it make enough of a difference to make up for the extra cost?
you seem to be the suspension pro here so i figured i'd ask for your insight.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 11:02 AM
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I just recieved my addco from a GD for 105 shipped. Installed it yesterday and all i can really tell you, even after tok/eib suspension, omg what a difference. Very worth it.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
think the car handles nice now, just wait until you get one of my Lower Tie bars and the rear parallel link kits!
haha, just wait until I paypal you all of my Christmas money
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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cool, Izzy is supposed to be bringing mine over in a little bit, too bad its to wet out tonight to use it anyway.
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First off matt, thanks for the quick delivery. The items came in good shape. What do you mean by hardware though? I got the bar, 2 brackets, and 2 end links. This may be another stupid question, but aren't some of the holes on the brackets too close to the edge? Could the pulling forces bend the material at those places?
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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First off matt, thanks for the quick delivery. The items came in good shape. What do you mean by hardware though? I got the bar, 2 brackets, and 2 end links. This may be another stupid question, but aren't some of the holes on the brackets too close to the edge? Could the pulling forces bend the material at those places?

the hardware was the endlinks and the bolts going through it. if you got the links, then you got the bolts too.. I bolted those together before I ever wrapped them up, so I know they all got nuts abd bolts in them, or they didn't have any of the endlink hardware.

as for the bolt holes, look at your FSTB (if you have one). there's a lot less metal on those than on my links, so these will be more than strong enough. the top plate on the rear struts isn't flat anyway, so you're going to bend up the brackets a bit when installing. not a big deal at all, as long as you get the bolts torqued to spec (like 32 ft lb I think).


Shock211....
as for the handling, I recommend EITHER the ST set or the Addco rear, but not both ST front and Addco rear. just because the Addco rear is bigger doesn't necessarily mean it's better when you're running a fat front sway bar too.
ST goes for beefing up both ends by (grab a number... say 50%) basically, while the Addco Rear bar ONLY reduces rear-end body roll by like 100%. the ST keeps the same handling characteristics of the car (still pushes a bit through corners), while the addco changes to more of a tail-happy setup to change the characteristics..

If you want to go with both ST front and Addco rear, go for it, but be ready to spend some $$ backpedaling If you don't like the way it handles. I can't make much assumption on it, but I would say the handling with both would be pretty weird since they go by different methods.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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Ok, y'all have me convinced..once I get my new sub enclosure built, the next paycheck(s) will go to a rstb and a fstb..I hope..if nothing else comes up..
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Shock211....
as for the handling, I recommend EITHER the ST set or the Addco rear, but not both ST front and Addco rear. just because the Addco rear is bigger doesn't necessarily mean it's better when you're running a fat front sway bar too.
ST goes for beefing up both ends by (grab a number... say 50%) basically, while the Addco Rear bar ONLY reduces rear-end body roll by like 100%. the ST keeps the same handling characteristics of the car (still pushes a bit through corners), while the addco changes to more of a tail-happy setup to change the characteristics.
thanx for the info matt.
i'd rather make an all around improvement as opposed to just the understeer related issues.so i guess the st sway bar kit is what i'll get. after that it'll most likely invest in a BlehmCo rstb. you don't plan to stop making them anytime soon do you? i'd be ordering it late spring or mid summer 04.

thanx again...
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I sell suspension techniques
how much for the sway bar kit man???
Old Dec 25, 2003 | 06:25 AM
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I just ordered another 25 sets of brackets and endlinks for the RSTBs, so they should be around for a while.
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how much for the sway bar kit man???
$120 a bar + shipping
Old Dec 26, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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Matt, I have a FSTB on my Max right now what would you suggest as my next step in suspension mods? I have to pick them up one at a time. Should I go with the lower tie, RSTB or start looking at a sway bar kit.
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Originally Posted by -shock211-
thanx for the info matt.
i'd rather make an all around improvement as opposed to just the understeer related issues.so i guess the st sway bar kit is what i'll get. after that it'll most likely invest in a BlehmCo rstb. you don't plan to stop making them anytime soon do you? i'd be ordering it late spring or mid summer 04.

thanx again...
You might want to ask Jeff if he has any new comments on his setup (now that he's used it for a while) and post it up here. He runs the ST/Addco combo: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ighlight=addco I think someone else does too (or planned it) but I can't recall who....
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Grant- I'd say do the RSB, but I do want everything Matt makes... eventually

Bman, last time I talked to Jeff about suspension stuff he loved his setup and wants a bigger RSB hehehe
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Bman, last time I talked to Jeff about suspension stuff he loved his setup and wants a bigger RSB hehehe


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$120 a bar + shipping
sounds good....we'll be in touch regarding the sway bars this spring.
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Matt my RSTB showed up a few days early, so I was able to install in Christmas morning

I gotta say Sweeeet, definitly stiffened up the rear end nicely. The car rides on rails now. A very worthy mod.
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