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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 12:45 AM
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By how much would a max with a y-pipe beat a stock max?

Assuming they are both autos, and lets say 0-60? Are we looking like half a car? A full car? What do you think? Would the max with the y-pipe be constantly pulling on the stock auto max the whole time? I got $220 and wondering if i should just order a budget one and get it over with. Thanks
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 12:51 AM
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I couldn't really say exactly how much difference.

But what I CAN say is, after I got my y-pipe, I let all my friends/family drive it here and there. I have yet to see someone not have a BIG grin on their face when they're done driving it.

It makes a big difference...
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sryth
I couldn't really say exactly how much difference.

But what I CAN say is, after I got my y-pipe, I let all my friends/family drive it here and there. I have yet to see someone not have a BIG grin on their face when they're done driving it.

It makes a big difference...
Are you automatic sryth? If you are, wow..there must be a difference
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:23 AM
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Nope...I've got a 5spd...but I'm told the gains are comparable.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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Ypipe will give you gain at above 70mph.
At lower speed - i doubt if you feel any difference.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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oh yeah you will, I raced XMAX with his key upgrade as y-pipe (catback not much, and intake not much) I got smoked so badly it wasn't even funny...
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by balla95_se
Assuming they are both autos, and lets say 0-60? Are we looking like half a car? A full car? What do you think? Would the max with the y-pipe be constantly pulling on the stock auto max the whole time? I got $220 and wondering if i should just order a budget one and get it over with. Thanks
what a difference it is.. nite and day.. you will pull hard on a max without y-pipe especially upstairs.. you eliminate the pre cats.. big difference
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MDr
Ypipe will give you gain at above 70mph.
At lower speed - i doubt if you feel any difference.
What makes you think that? Last time I checked I started getting noticable gains around 4500 rpms.........
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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so what kind of gains are we looking at, hp and torque speaking? some sites claim 12-20 hp gains.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MDr
Ypipe will give you gain at above 70mph.
At lower speed - i doubt if you feel any difference.

nah the ypipe on a 5spd. with a stock 5spd. u will feel a diff. i felt it after i put mine on but it does really kick in at like 60mph but its worth getting...
it adds a good 15-20 hp
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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Its strange how on some threads everyone praises the y-pipe and how on others people say they didn't feel much out of it, and instead claim huge gains from their CAI (yet intakes seem to show 0-5 hp on dynos!). Hehe maybe the load intake growl really feels like 15hp.

Either way I'm still getting a y for my 5sp
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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flat out, an increase in hp of like 15 is going to be very noticable....unless you are an idiot and don't ever drive your car.

The CAI don't even add 5 hp. just a lot of noise. there are actually threads that talk about them slowing down 0-60 time. They shift a little hp gain to way upper band.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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1. a Y-pipe gives gains throughout the entire rpm band. Not just "above 70" (what ever that is supposed to mean)

2. Y-pipe are proven to give a 2-3 tenths gain in the 1/4 mile and 2mph or so increase in trap. That is significant.

3. It's almost impossible for us "regular" car owners to judge things in the 0-60 perspective. Tell me where I can go to get an acurate 0-60 time???? Yes there are equations to use to calcualte 0-60 form a 1/4 mile time slip but they really are not good enough. So without an expensive set up of laser speed guns it's impossible to know a true 0-60 time. Just use 1/4 or 1/8 mile times becasue a track is the only place a regualr joe can go and get accurate times.

3. A butt dyno is virtually useless. Don't ever spend money on a product that someone say makes the car feel fast. Just look around and posts on the org for good examples.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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To people who say significant gain throughout the entire band...
Unfortunately, my butt-dyno tends to agree with the link below.
http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/522
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MDr
To people who say significant gain throughout the entire band...
Unfortunately, my butt-dyno tends to agree with the link below.
http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/522
That's because that's the B pipe my alphabet impared friend.

Actually that's an interesting link though...Motorvate's pretty trustworthy and....8HP from a catback...hmm.

The link you want is the following... http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/504
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MDr
To people who say significant gain throughout the entire band...
Unfortunately, my butt-dyno tends to agree with the link below.
http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/522
Um........perhaps thats the wrong link?? Thats the b-pipe.......
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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oh yeah you will, I raced XMAX with his key upgrade as y-pipe (catback not much, and intake not much) I got smoked so badly it wasn't even funny...
http://www.jatan.net/smokege.mpg
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JaTaN
that was proof positive that ypipes rock... unless that was a passenger in your car who was video taping and happened to be 300 pounds.. nice video.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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y-pipe will definitely be the best bang for the buck.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rowan
that was proof positive that ypipes rock... unless that was a passenger in your car who was video taping and happened to be 300 pounds.. nice video.
no the passanger in my car was only like 130 pounds, but xmax had 2 12"s in the back, so it's basicly equal wieghts, and he gave me a headstart and he didn't even launch.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rowan
that was proof positive that ypipes rock... unless that was a passenger in your car who was video taping and happened to be 300 pounds.. nice video.
ABK's video, I'm just hosting
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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i have an auto with y pipe(first mod). when i raced other maximas with just my y pipe(i would assume they were stock as most maximas are) both were automatics we were even at launch but as soon as i hit 3500rpm i pulled and never stopped pulling until i let off.

my 99 with the mods listed ran up against my friend jeremysride2000 also auto 2k maxima with cai. we started from about 70 and i very very slowly pulled away from him(5th gen top end is wicked)

be careful
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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I did the y-pipe and b-pipe and UDP al at the same time, and WOW...I have a few mods and don't even consider a stock Max to be a contest anymore. I smoked a stock max the other day by 3 cars 0-45mph. I will be spraying as of tomorrow, I just need some laughing gas. y-pipe will get you rolling on the way to more and more mods.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TAPOUT
I will be spraying as of tomorrow.
what size shot? careful with that paper-mache tranny we have
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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Oh come on...paper-mache is much stronger and more resilient than our trannies!
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 01:30 AM
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It's pretty good. But don't get your hopes up too high. You can feel it, but it's not going to be from driving fairly quick to suddenly slam you into your seat. My sister had driven my max before the y pipe, and then she drove it again after I installed the y pipe. I hadn't told her about the install, and all the mentioned afterwards was that it felt a little peppier, and noisier than usual. If you want some impressive change that's really going to make people stand up and notice, FI is the only route. How old are you, out of curiosity? You got a steady job, or is this christmas money? If you don't really care about being able to drive a 1/4 mile a fraction of a second faster, I'd say save your money. Take your girlfriend somewhere nice this weekend.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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The BLUE line is with the Stillen Cone filter, everything else is totally stock. The run was done in February 2000, and the correction factor is 0.98 due to the temperature of 63.16°F, and barometric pressure of 29.59 in Hg. All runs are 4th gear roll on.

The RED line is with the Budget y-pipe added to the above. (In total a Stillen Cone intake, y-pipe, and 17" Motegi rims weighing 47 lbs, vs stock at 40lbs) The run was done in June of 2002 with just over 238,000 KM. The correction factor is 1.02 due to the temperature of 90.52°F, and the barometric pressure of 29.37.

The GREEN line is with the has the same mods as the RED, PLUS the 2.5" B-Pipe. The run was done in July of 2003 with just over 274,000 KM. The correction factor is 1.02 due to the temperature of 83.83°F, and the barometric pressure of 29.62.


Originally Posted by endus
That's because that's the B pipe my alphabet impared friend.

Actually that's an interesting link though...Motorvate's pretty trustworthy and....8HP from a catback...hmm.

The link you want is the following... http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/504
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MDr
Ypipe will give you gain at above 70mph.
At lower speed - i doubt if you feel any difference.
I had my Budget Y Pipe put on 3 weeks ago. And you can feel a diffeence in the low end. But it really screams in the top end. My car pulls like a raped ape with it on, compared to before. My car torque steers in a straight line at 50 MPH. The Y Pipe is simply awesome for NA mod.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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My car pulls like a raped ape with it on
Nice simile
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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I heard that one in a vid featuring a Lingenfelter Vette (which truely pulls like a raped ape). Is that where you got it?
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MDr
The BLUE line is with the Stillen Cone filter, everything else is totally stock. The run was done in February 2000, and the correction factor is 0.98 due to the temperature of 63.16°F, and barometric pressure of 29.59 in Hg. All runs are 4th gear roll on.

The RED line is with the Budget y-pipe added to the above. (In total a Stillen Cone intake, y-pipe, and 17" Motegi rims weighing 47 lbs, vs stock at 40lbs) The run was done in June of 2002 with just over 238,000 KM. The correction factor is 1.02 due to the temperature of 90.52°F, and the barometric pressure of 29.37.

The GREEN line is with the has the same mods as the RED, PLUS the 2.5" B-Pipe. The run was done in July of 2003 with just over 274,000 KM. The correction factor is 1.02 due to the temperature of 83.83°F, and the barometric pressure of 29.62.

From 3300RPM to redline, the ypipe run is significanly higher than the stillen cone only run. You hit 3300 rpm at about 20mph in 1st gear... how does that equate to "only gains above 70."
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Here's another opinion

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=283454
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sryth
I heard that one in a vid featuring a Lingenfelter Vette (which truely pulls like a raped ape). Is that where you got it?
Nope, I always say things like that. I'll say raped ape or raped banshee or pulls like a banshee or something like that. Had a run in with a 97 Trans Am WS6 6Spd tonight. Now that car pulls like a raped ape .
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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Oh come on...paper-mache is much stronger and more resilient than our trannies!
sadly true, all i can say is, i suppose it could be worse. until it goes out again
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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should i get a B-pipe and a catalytic converter with my Y-pipe from Budget Exhaust?
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