My old turbo from Hal

 

Wow,that looks like ****. Hope your new turbo works better.

Your turbo is bleeding!!!!!!!!!(JOKE)

Sid

 

Dang! What happened to the turbine blades?

 

Something contacted them, most likely engine bits from his blown motor.

Disect that sucker bags...I want to know how to take one apart and put it back together, so I can get my turbine housing Swain Tech coated.

 

I disagree. I do not think anything from my motor went down there. The car was not running long enough. And if you remember, my oil line was a STEEL line. it was TINY. No way anything got fed into from there.

And I was thinking about taking everything apart I could, since it is AFU. That way I would see how these things are built and understand them a little more.

 

No bits of piston that might have traveled through the exhaust to the turbine?

If not, then how did it happen?

 

I am not saying yes or no 100%, but I don't think so. The only parts I ever saw or heard were in the oil pan.

I took the turbo off and no parts were heard in it or came out of it.

I am guessing I got it like this. I never took it apart until now. So I will never truly know.

I got a used POS turbo that was rebuilt 2 times by god knows who. It still leaked. So I am saying I received the turbo this way. Just the way I feel.

 

=:O You think you got it like that? That's not used, that's junk.

You couldn't see the turbine blades with the housing on?

 

Now there's an

I'll have to write that down in my journal of goodies...

 

If you do not mind me asking what will Swain Tech coating do to the turbine housing.

 

http://www.swaintech.com/

Call them and ask about their applications.

 

Well, even a BB sized piece (or slightly smaller) of metal could have worked it's way through the line and gotten into the turbo housing. With the speeds your blades were spinning, it would do some serious damage to any type of hard material of anything. Believe me, I know first hand. Ever seen the compressor blades of a turbine after a bird ingestion? And that bird has nothing on it that's as hard as pieces of piston...


EDIT--> Still, I'll be glad to help with the total disassembly of both that and your old engine...

 

Fck look at them turbine blades . Man I am very happy you got a new turbo. Well have to go dyno at Tylers place with this new one. I am sure you will get more HP/Tq out of this one.

 

You got it like that? Are you retarded or something? Somebody linked me to this post because frankly it's hilarious. You really would have to be pretty smart not to notice that before it was put on since you had it off multiple times.

 

If I'm not mistaken, he didn't get a chance to look at the turbo when he got the kit. I assume he got the kit installed? If so, there's no real good way to see the turbo before hand. And to confirm if the blown motor did it or if it came that way. Nice 1st post btw.

 

Thanks, I thought it was a good first one as well.

I meant when he got it back after the rebuilds.


Also, am I correct in assuming that his motor blew up? And he doesn't think that could be related to his turbo's demise?

 

Well, thanks for your input. Wow, another nut swinger from KY.

And I am glad your here to help.

Can you see every inch of a turbine from the outside of the housing? I can't.. but then again, maybe your superman or you think hal is or you are hal.

Either way, I don't give a flying you know what.

My turbo was doomed from day 1. No matter if my motor put it out of it's misery or not.

If you'd like a flame war, look else where.

 

Where the hell did this fool come from? Crawl back under your rock FNG...

 

It may very well have justin.

I have been through so much BS over this POS turbo, pipes, oil return, oil feed, etc.. that I feel ok in saying that I received it AFU.

But, I am slowly improving my setup, so it will work 100% and be right.

 

Nut swinger? LOL!

Oh thanks Bags...needed that after all the jack offs in my 5th gen forum right now.

Anyways, my first *GUESS* was debris of some sort, but maybe the blades overheated from being lean too long and desintigrated(sp?). I don't know, just poking in the dark here.

I *DEFINITELY* think we should persue what happened though, so that we can diagnosis what went wrong and prevent it from happening to you or others AGAIN. TC failure analysis is a bit of science we can all do and learn from it and improve to make the setups better in the future.

 

yeah crawl back under the rock you FNG Nut swinger

 

Hey Bags,

Try and move it back/forth and side/side. What kind of shaft play does it have?

 

Also, once you clean off all the oil, post some more pics.

You can also SELL that to someone looking to avoid a core charge SUPPOSEDLY, so don't toss it.

I'd make it a trophy of sorts though.

 

The spacer/bearing between the center section and the turbine wheel has at least 1/8 of an inch gap in it.

I'm at work now, but I would like to break it down shotgun style.

I will clean it up.

I dug my finger in the turbine housing and it feels smooth, no gouges or anything. I will mess with it more in a day or 2.

And I do try and give people a good laugh every now and again.

I may keep this, not as a trophy, more of a future experiment.

 

You prefer that over ceramic coating?


I looked at it, it "appears" to be about the same thing

 

Maybe it was the bad turbo that made your motor blow in the first place?

 

Ice thinks a motor blew its guts before you were given that turbo to put in your car.

 

Thanks deez. I see the "he" now. I thought it ment me...... ICY may be 100% correct. No telling with that POS hal.

 

Man that **** is looking busted. Leaking oil and all are you sure thats not out of a Mitsubishi??? just kidding that really sux

 

And I am replying to this a 2nd time...

It took your fisrt post to get my brain housing group working and I came up with a few situations.

And then vortechpower replied and it was odd that he said DSM.

The place that did my POS kit had 2 dsm's, both were shop cars. 1 early 90's talon, the other a newer body style eclipse. The eclipse had recently blown the motor and the talon was running.

I am now thinking either

A) the shop owner who installed my AFU kit, shafted me with his OLD turbo out of his eclipse and Hal had no idea..... or

B) Hal and his buddy F'd me with the used turbo from the eclipse. And they kept my money and bought vaseline so they could be butt buddies.

Interesting. If any of you Hal lackeys wanna toss this thread his way, I'd be interested in what he has to say. Well, I would not believe him if he told me he had no idea.

Funny how things fit together after you look at all the parts.

 

Hindsight always being 20/20 (which can be good or bad)...


Well either way, Hal is still the responsible party since he supplied both the parts and the place of install.

 

Baggs, it seems like you've replaced every piece of Hal's turbo kit. Personally I'd be steammed considering how much a replacement turbo cost

 

Steamed was last year. I am way beyond steamed. But that anger gets me no where. So I sit on it and hope one day I can use it.


And the fact that my car looks better and is running better makes, it makes me feel better

 

How did your motor blow?

 

bags, u didn't run that turbo for a whole year like that did u? Thats insane.

 

Great question.


I'd say my pushing the boost without proper fuel.


Larrio- again, I THINK it was like that from the day I got it. Not 100% either way. But, the turbo has been leaking from those 2 bottom bolts since the 1st day it was installed on my car

Goldenglory- 1 motor replaced, 1 transmisson swap, 1 Turbo replaced. I don't make that much money. I plan well and work LOTS of OT to pay for what I got. And american express loves me..lol

on B.. Lead the way