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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 06:53 AM
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uhh.. oiling the piston cylinder DOES increase performance...

"someone" wrote this in a thread I just read: "Making sure that the Headlight fluid is full, along with routine oiling of the piston cylinders really improves performance"

Now from the headlight fluid comment, I would assume this person said this quote out of cynicism. But just for the record, oiling the piston cylinder does increase performance. If the wall of a cylinder was not oiled properly the piston would melt, the block would crack, the head gasket would fail, or some other extreme thing would occur. Hypothetically speaking if you ran a sythetic (a synthetic enherently offers less resistance) non-variable viscosity 5W you would most likely see some kind of power gain. This is because the "thinner" oil would offer less resistance therfore reducing paracitic loss. Of course there are numerous factors that one has to consider that make the hypothetical impossible for most engines. just my .02

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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by adroitcaptor
"someone" wrote this in a thread I just read: "Making sure that the Headlight fluid is full, along with routine oiling of the piston cylinders really improves performance"

Now from the headlight fluid comment, I would assume this person said this quote out of cynicism. But just for the record, oiling the piston cylinder does increase performance. If the wall of a cylinder was not oiled properly the piston would melt, the block would crack, the head gasket would fail, or some other extreme thing would occur. Hypothetically speaking if you ran a sythetic (a synthetic enherently offers less resistance) non-variable viscosity 5W you would most likely see some kind of power gain. This is because the "thinner" oil would offer less resistance therfore reducing paracitic loss. Of course there are numerous factors that one has to consider that make the hypothetical impossible for most engines. just my .02

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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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I just dumped ATF into all my cylinders through the spark plug holes. Neighborhood went ip in smoke. Hehehe.
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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lol Well some day in the very far future when I know enough about cars and have the means for better investigory work I will start a magazine named after my motorsports shop. Then again, I have to have that first too. hehe God bless; later

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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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that might be true, if cars had piston-cylinders...
Usually, at least where i come from. They are two different entities. Unless you are talking about my 90 Stanza. I really think that the cylinder walls and the pistons fused, creating the newest mod for engines, the PC.
Otherwise known in urban street racing terms, as the "piston-cylinders".....
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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just curious as to where you got this idea and learned all those big words. as for running straight SAE 5W, it would be good for the 1st 10 minutes of driving when you engine wasn't up the running temp, but after that it becomes more viscous, that why most people run 5w-30, so that at operating temps it remains at a low viscosity, hense a "multi-viscosity" oil. as for running synthetic, yes it has a lower viscosity and I would imagine might give you minor gains, it also allows you to wait longer between oil changes, the downside is that it is a lot more expensive.
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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Flashover - There are many cylinders associated with an engine. However "piston cylinder" refers to a specific cylinder. Since I was a small kid I have always heard, both in the books I read, from my father, as well as my uncles referrfng to a cylinder(s) in the cylinder block as a "piston cylinder(s)". I did not grow up in the 40s and 50s, as my father, but I can assure you that the english language has become less articulate through the years. (The exaggerated support for this would be Abraham Lincoln who is said to be the most articulated person in American history.) Just to point out a few other changes in the english language pertaining to cars try cylinder block, cylinder head, shock tower brace etc etc. You can take just about anything in a car and compare it to old terminology and see some type of difference.

I am not up to date on the latest "urban street racing terms" as you call it so I apologize for any confusion. I did not mention the person's name because it was irrelevant to the point I was trying to make. You could sum my statement up to nothing more then a jest on modern english discourse. Either way my intent was not to make anyone look bad or be condescending.

SkinnyMax - You are absolutely right! That is why I included, "Of course there are numerous factors that one has to consider that make the hypothetical impossible for most engines." in my post. It is not reasonable to think that you could use such an oil as I was suggesting. Even if you were to use such an oil, please understand I was not looking to portray a hidden potential of untapped HP. I only meant to say that you would show moderate gains on a dyno. For the extreme of my theory I would think it to be sage to presume a 5-8% gain.

That being said I sure was not trying to impress anyone with "big words". NOR was I looking to puff up my chest and sound any more intelligent then what my small IQ really does have to offer.

All of that being said, my real intent on posting was nothing more then, as I stated earlier, a jest on modern english discourse. That and the fact every once and a while when I have an abstract though on the daily thought of engine function I like to share it with others. Have a God blessed Sunday with lots of driving!

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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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Alright Dan, i was going to engage in a match of witts. Or maybe just a online forum squabble. But You prove your humility and good intentions. Good luck, and have a great Monday.
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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I am sure if you searched for my older screen name you would view nothing but egotistic threads! lol I guessed that changed when I realized how much of an *** to everyone I was (and how ignorant I was). If you want you can always catch me on aim @ adroitcaptor. As long as no feelings are stepped on I would be more then happy to argue over anything no matter my position (it is fun:-D). later
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