Went to the track and made some runs
Went to the track and made some runs
Mike, Brian and I hit Byron saturday morning. Here's my results:
Mods: JWT Popcharger, PR midpipe, MEVI at 5400rpm, Cattman SS Ypipe, Warpspeed test pipe, MR SS catback. Race weight varied from about 3070 at heaviest to 3005 with stuff removed and running the slicks.
I ran in 4 configurations, here is the first which was spare removed only, on 33lb combo of 17x7.5" SSR Competitions and dangerously bald 235-40-17 Toyo T1-S (almost corded I am taking them off the car and putting my snow tires back on they are that bad).
My first pass of the day after I took my toolbox, food, CDs, slicks and spare out of the car was a 14.004 @ 100.4 with a 2.25 60' so I knew it was going to be a good day. I lost that timeslip but I am excellent at remembering numbers and that's how they ended up. I made 1 more pass in this configuration and ran a 14.112 @ 100.22 with a 2.27 60'. That slip looks like this:
Time 12:49
R/T .559
60' 2.270
330' 6.092
1/8 9.194 @ 79.44
1000' 11.863
1/4 14.112 @ 100.22mph
The second configuration was the addition of 2 gallons of 104 octane race gas to about 4 gallons of 93 octane gas, resulting in a mixture of about 96.7 octane.
The first timeslip from that config, where I beat a stock 350Z 6spd which ran 14.21 @ 99.88mph on a 2.25 60'
Time 1:44pm
R/T .528
60' 2.286
330' 6.023
1/8 blank
1000' 11.754
1/4 13.993 @ 100.46mph
Finally I got off the line decently and I ran this:
Time 2:06pm
R/T .478
60ft' 2.191
330' 5.923
1/8m 9.002 @ 79.75mph
1000 11.657
1/4m 13.893 @ 100.69mph
Third configuration I ran in was my typical ricer configuration where I removed the 40lb passenger seat and the 10lb foam rear bench. All other variables remained the same.
First and best pass:
Time 3:00pm
.383
2.188
5.945
8.995 @ 80.87mph
11.620
13.830 @ 102.00mph <--best street tire ET and MPH for me
Second pass:
Time 3:11pm
.718
2.205
5.966
9.019 @ 80.85mph
11.642
13.852 @ 102.00mph
Third pass:
For some reason I had a brain fart and I shifted into 2nd gear at 6800rpm. I was thinking I needed to shift at 200rpm past the stock redline, rather than 200rpm past 7000. The timeslip clearly reflects this 400rpm shift difference, even though it was only a factor on one shift.
Time 3:26pm
.513
2.227
6.007
9.082 @ 80.09mph
11.723
13.944 @ 101.35mph
Finally I'd had enough with the street tire throttle and clutch modulation BS and put on the meats. The millenia wheels and meats weigh 25lbs for the combo.
First pass:
I didn't do much of a burnout on this pass, instead I burned my clutch mostly. I tried rolling forward out of the water and burning out in 2nd gear which wasn't a great idea. I never did see more than a little wisp of smoke, normally it's billowing and filling up the car. All I could smell was clutch, not tires. Oops. I figured I was screwed for the rest of the day because I have overheated the clutch before and it took a long time for it to be back to normal. This launch was weird because the clutch was hot and didn't grab like it normally does, I sortof rolled off the line, slicks didn't spin at all which they normally do because of the decreased clutch grab. Also both shifts were a bit soft and not 'grabby". I had the slicks set at about 14.5psi cold.
Time 4:26pm
.927
1.933
5.598
8.632 @ 81.46mph
11.261
13.473 @ 102.22mph
Second pass:
Slicks still at 14.5psi cold
Time 4:33pm
.457
1.973 <---spun slicks kinda badly off launch, I didn't dry hop them like normal
5.678
8.722 @ 80.57mph
11.356
13.572 @ 101.83mph
Third pass:
time 4:40pm
.377
1.918
5.629
8.675 @ 81.26mph
11.313
13.533 @ 101.88mph
All three of these runs were done on a unhappy clutch from what I described earlier. The shifts were not grabby and the RPMs fell slowly on shifts. I needed to let it rest a while to get some grab back in the clutch. So I let the car cool for 45 mins and got back in line.
Fourth pass:
time 5:28pm
.477
1.898
5.559
8.592 @ 80.82mph
11.222
13.431 @ 102.34mph <--- new personal best ET and trap
Fifth pass:
Time 5:33
.552
1.885
5.540
8.584 @ 80.45mph
11.222
13.440 @ 101.70mph
Sixth pass:
Time 5:37pm
.597
1.969
5.670
8.713 @ 81.36mph
11.348
13.566 @ 101.99mph
By this point in time there were no cars left running. It was myself, Mike, and 2 other cars. I decided any more runs were just abuse, and I wasn't going to run any faster. So I kissed the steering wheel and called it a day.
This car has a 13.3 in it if I had an aftermarket clutch and maybe some wider slicks, as I can spin them pretty well off the line dumping it from 5500 on the stock clutch. But that will never happen because that isn't in the plans for this car. Unless my current plan totally changes, 13.43 @ 102.3 is as fast as it will go n/a.
BTW I have most of these runs on video and they will be posted if Brian ever gets around to ripping them.
Mods: JWT Popcharger, PR midpipe, MEVI at 5400rpm, Cattman SS Ypipe, Warpspeed test pipe, MR SS catback. Race weight varied from about 3070 at heaviest to 3005 with stuff removed and running the slicks.
I ran in 4 configurations, here is the first which was spare removed only, on 33lb combo of 17x7.5" SSR Competitions and dangerously bald 235-40-17 Toyo T1-S (almost corded I am taking them off the car and putting my snow tires back on they are that bad).
My first pass of the day after I took my toolbox, food, CDs, slicks and spare out of the car was a 14.004 @ 100.4 with a 2.25 60' so I knew it was going to be a good day. I lost that timeslip but I am excellent at remembering numbers and that's how they ended up. I made 1 more pass in this configuration and ran a 14.112 @ 100.22 with a 2.27 60'. That slip looks like this:
Time 12:49
R/T .559
60' 2.270
330' 6.092
1/8 9.194 @ 79.44
1000' 11.863
1/4 14.112 @ 100.22mph
The second configuration was the addition of 2 gallons of 104 octane race gas to about 4 gallons of 93 octane gas, resulting in a mixture of about 96.7 octane.
The first timeslip from that config, where I beat a stock 350Z 6spd which ran 14.21 @ 99.88mph on a 2.25 60'
Time 1:44pm
R/T .528
60' 2.286
330' 6.023
1/8 blank
1000' 11.754
1/4 13.993 @ 100.46mph
Finally I got off the line decently and I ran this:
Time 2:06pm
R/T .478
60ft' 2.191
330' 5.923
1/8m 9.002 @ 79.75mph
1000 11.657
1/4m 13.893 @ 100.69mph
Third configuration I ran in was my typical ricer configuration where I removed the 40lb passenger seat and the 10lb foam rear bench. All other variables remained the same.
First and best pass:
Time 3:00pm
.383
2.188
5.945
8.995 @ 80.87mph
11.620
13.830 @ 102.00mph <--best street tire ET and MPH for me
Second pass:
Time 3:11pm
.718
2.205
5.966
9.019 @ 80.85mph
11.642
13.852 @ 102.00mph
Third pass:
For some reason I had a brain fart and I shifted into 2nd gear at 6800rpm. I was thinking I needed to shift at 200rpm past the stock redline, rather than 200rpm past 7000. The timeslip clearly reflects this 400rpm shift difference, even though it was only a factor on one shift.
Time 3:26pm
.513
2.227
6.007
9.082 @ 80.09mph
11.723
13.944 @ 101.35mph
Finally I'd had enough with the street tire throttle and clutch modulation BS and put on the meats. The millenia wheels and meats weigh 25lbs for the combo.
First pass:
I didn't do much of a burnout on this pass, instead I burned my clutch mostly. I tried rolling forward out of the water and burning out in 2nd gear which wasn't a great idea. I never did see more than a little wisp of smoke, normally it's billowing and filling up the car. All I could smell was clutch, not tires. Oops. I figured I was screwed for the rest of the day because I have overheated the clutch before and it took a long time for it to be back to normal. This launch was weird because the clutch was hot and didn't grab like it normally does, I sortof rolled off the line, slicks didn't spin at all which they normally do because of the decreased clutch grab. Also both shifts were a bit soft and not 'grabby". I had the slicks set at about 14.5psi cold.
Time 4:26pm
.927
1.933
5.598
8.632 @ 81.46mph
11.261
13.473 @ 102.22mph
Second pass:
Slicks still at 14.5psi cold
Time 4:33pm
.457
1.973 <---spun slicks kinda badly off launch, I didn't dry hop them like normal
5.678
8.722 @ 80.57mph
11.356
13.572 @ 101.83mph
Third pass:
time 4:40pm
.377
1.918
5.629
8.675 @ 81.26mph
11.313
13.533 @ 101.88mph
All three of these runs were done on a unhappy clutch from what I described earlier. The shifts were not grabby and the RPMs fell slowly on shifts. I needed to let it rest a while to get some grab back in the clutch. So I let the car cool for 45 mins and got back in line.
Fourth pass:
time 5:28pm
.477
1.898
5.559
8.592 @ 80.82mph
11.222
13.431 @ 102.34mph <--- new personal best ET and trap
Fifth pass:
Time 5:33
.552
1.885
5.540
8.584 @ 80.45mph
11.222
13.440 @ 101.70mph
Sixth pass:
Time 5:37pm
.597
1.969
5.670
8.713 @ 81.36mph
11.348
13.566 @ 101.99mph
By this point in time there were no cars left running. It was myself, Mike, and 2 other cars. I decided any more runs were just abuse, and I wasn't going to run any faster. So I kissed the steering wheel and called it a day.
This car has a 13.3 in it if I had an aftermarket clutch and maybe some wider slicks, as I can spin them pretty well off the line dumping it from 5500 on the stock clutch. But that will never happen because that isn't in the plans for this car. Unless my current plan totally changes, 13.43 @ 102.3 is as fast as it will go n/a.
BTW I have most of these runs on video and they will be posted if Brian ever gets around to ripping them.
To give you an idea of how freakishly fast Neal's car is, here is our head to head run. He put about 5 car lengths on me but he did out react me by .3 though.
We both have intake, Y-pipe, VI, JWT/ECU @7200. He has a cat-back and I don't. I have a lightend flywheel and he does not. Only major difference was that his car is around 150lbs lighter and a bit better driver. He pull on me in every gear. We have a good vid of this race too.
Neal
.718
2.205
5.966
9.019 @ 80.85mph
11.642
13.852 @ 102.00
Me
1.019
2.221
6.092
9.277 @ 76.69
12.037
14.351 @98.40
It really drives me crazy that he is this much faster than me. He likes to rub it in too. When I ran my 14.22 he treated me like special olympics kid....."That is really good for your ability"
We both have intake, Y-pipe, VI, JWT/ECU @7200. He has a cat-back and I don't. I have a lightend flywheel and he does not. Only major difference was that his car is around 150lbs lighter and a bit better driver. He pull on me in every gear. We have a good vid of this race too.
Neal
.718
2.205
5.966
9.019 @ 80.85mph
11.642
13.852 @ 102.00
Me
1.019
2.221
6.092
9.277 @ 76.69
12.037
14.351 @98.40
It really drives me crazy that he is this much faster than me. He likes to rub it in too. When I ran my 14.22 he treated me like special olympics kid....."That is really good for your ability"
Great job Neal. What was the weather like on Saturday? It looks like the race gas may have helped you out somewhat and traction looked pretty freaking good. 102mph traps in relation to your ET and traction makes perfect sense. I'm jealous.
I ran yesterday and was getting my typical 14.4s@97-98mph with mid 2.2s. The weather was in the mid 60s with a slight headwind. I was also running my CAI because I love the way it drives. I've told myself I'm not going back to the track until I get drag tires. I'm done screwing around with street tires.
Dave
I ran yesterday and was getting my typical 14.4s@97-98mph with mid 2.2s. The weather was in the mid 60s with a slight headwind. I was also running my CAI because I love the way it drives. I've told myself I'm not going back to the track until I get drag tires. I'm done screwing around with street tires.
Dave
Originally Posted by vsidesupratt1
Very Very nice times. So this makes you the fastest n/a 4th gen, Doesn't it?
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that's really awesome neal

ALL HAIL NEAL " THE KING OF THE 4TH GEN'S" !
