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Old May 23, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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coilovers on a 89-94 question

does anyone have coilovers on a 3rd gen and will coilovers for a 95-98 work on a 3rd gens.
Old May 23, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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does anyone have coilovers on a 3rd gen and will coilovers for a 95-98 work on a 3rd gens.
not on the market.

not that i know of.
Old May 23, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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does anyone have coilovers on a 3rd gen and will coilovers for a 95-98 work on a 3rd gens.
i have coilovers however they're a bit different than you'd expect. if you're gonna attempt coilovers, learn more about suspension systems, spring rates, damping, travel..also mine are not proven. since they've been installed i've driven approx. 15 miles (and that was 2 months ago), since then i've changed it almost entirely.

i'm not going to give you an answer either way on the 4th gen setups because most importantly, i dont want liability if i say yes, someone tries it and something horrible happens. i also dont want to say no and have some people thinking that coilovers are not possible at all. you need to know alot(i'm not claiming to, i went into it blind and still dont feel as though i know anything) and make your own decisions, or wait until someone makes a setup and buy it.

the best thing to do is read EVERYTHING you can about suspension systems, then look at your car front and rear, look at a coilover setup from another car and see what you can make happen. approach it from every angle, be pessimistic about it. this is NOT your typical spring/strut install. honestly assess your skill in this area and if you cant do it, then dont. do not and i repeat DO NOT be overconfident, especially if your funding isnt exactly great. you cant just throw some sleeves and stuff in there and expect it to work. granted it might for a little while but like i found out the hard way (killed my strut bearings over the course of 15 miles) lateral spring movement is interesting to control to say the least with my setup. its a huge headache but it can be done.

just a word of advice though, its nice to have a set of stock springs and struts all mounted ready to go
if you do attempt this you WILL learn to pull the springs and struts off very quickely. that is a guarenteed benefit of attempting this project. my fronts take about 2 minutes a side if the car is already in the air with the wheels off. if its sitting on the ground it takes me about 8 minutes total.

disclaimer: any inspiration from anything i've said is to be taken with a grain of salt. if you mess up your car its not my fault. i reserve the right to withhold any and all information about my setup. it took me a long time to figure it out, alot of broken parts, hours and hours of thinking, tons of research and several burns, cuts, bruises, you get the idea. if anyone thinks i'm going to just hand over what i've learned to them on a silver platter, they're sadly mistaken. there are too many things to go wrong for anyone to just give instructions on how to do it. too many variables, too many things that i've dealt with and forgotten about that WILL ruin your car(at very least) whether it be sooner or later. also my setup may not be for you so who am i to say whats right or wrong about what you're doing? my setup isnt tested or even complete for that matter. i may get the car out of my driveway and the whole thing could fall apart(not very likely . ).

but if you do try it, good luck. if you get stuck, IM me and i'll help you as best i can. i wont tell you how to do it, but i can give you a hint or make sure you dont do something too stupid.
Old May 23, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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dang, that was a good reply... (seriously)
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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dang, that was a good reply... (seriously)



...and oh-so-good points, also. Sure, there are times where I'd like to have stuff handed out to me (heck, who wouldn't??). But the BEST satisfaction I personally get is from doing or figuring out stuff on my own.

matt90max - you should've ended your post with, "Here's food for thought... now do the dishes!"
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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[QUOTE=MaDMaX024]i have coilovers however they're a bit different than you'd expect. if you're gonna attempt coilovers,
the best thing to do is read EVERYTHING you can about suspension systems, then look at your car front and rear, look at a coilover setup from another car and see what you can make happen. approach it from every angle, be pessimistic about it. this is NOT your typical spring/strut install. honestly assess your skill in this area and if you cant do it, then dont. do not and i repeat ....

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just to try and get you to show pics,

I call bs. :
Old May 23, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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I call bs aswell

if what you say is true about the 15 miles and being 2 months ago your rotors would be rusty and your tokicos wouldnt appear stock.

hehehhhe

on another note, there is another active 3rd genner with coilovers, he even posted that he has them, where, well thats up to you guys to find out
Old May 24, 2004 | 12:44 AM
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on top of the rotors you need new wheels studs too

looks like a good setup though. i don't know enough about suspension to do my own though.
Old May 24, 2004 | 05:46 AM
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i just thought the 95-99 suspension was simmalar, thank you mad max, i will deff look into it a lot more. looks like the only problem i could really see is the bottom thread threading into something in the shock tower to hold it there, other then that the coilovers look like they wouldnt have much problem. the link for them is right here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...478768577&rd=1
Old May 24, 2004 | 06:03 AM
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Dam shame I'm so lazy, I found a place that was willing to make a COMPLETE coilover setup for our maxs I just never pushed it.
Old May 24, 2004 | 06:10 AM
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aww why not i would have paid some good money for a good coilover setup.
Old May 24, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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Weapon R "coilovers" please no.. stay away.. don't even think about it..

and no, the 95-99 won't work at all.. look at the rear struts on our cars and theirs. completely different design and shock body diameter.
Old May 24, 2004 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
Dam shame I'm so lazy, I found a place that was willing to make a COMPLETE coilover setup for our maxs I just never pushed it.
So?

I had a GD started for progress coilovers, but there wasn't enough interest.

Old May 24, 2004 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Weapon R "coilovers" please no.. stay away.. don't even think about it..

and no, the 95-99 won't work at all.. look at the rear struts on our cars and theirs. completely different design and shock body diameter.
Read about the beam on 4th gens and you'll know why they won't work for the rears.
Old May 24, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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beam or not, it's the shock body on them that's the problem.
Old May 24, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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I've seen coilovers on a 3rd gen
Old May 24, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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I have as well..........
Old May 24, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by KLoWnPR109
I have as well..........
you guys are holding out on me
Old May 24, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nubiannupe


...and oh-so-good points, also. Sure, there are times where I'd like to have stuff handed out to me (heck, who wouldn't??). But the BEST satisfaction I personally get is from doing or figuring out stuff on my own.

matt90max - you should've ended your post with, "Here's food for thought... now do the dishes!"
thanks nubian and redmax. originality gets the most respect in my book.
Old May 24, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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[QUOTE=lophix]
Originally Posted by MaDMaX024
i have coilovers however they're a bit different than you'd expect. if you're gonna attempt coilovers,
the best thing to do is read EVERYTHING you can about suspension systems, then look at your car front and rear, look at a coilover setup from another car and see what you can make happen. approach it from every angle, be pessimistic about it. this is NOT your typical spring/strut install. honestly assess your skill in this area and if you cant do it, then dont. do not and i repeat ....

QUOTE]


just to try and get you to show pics,

I call bs. :
be resourceful and you'll learn
Old May 24, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
I call bs aswell

if what you say is true about the 15 miles and being 2 months ago your rotors would be rusty and your tokicos wouldnt appear stock.

hehehhhe

on another note, there is another active 3rd genner with coilovers, he even posted that he has them, where, well thats up to you guys to find out
the picture in my sig is after a month of sitting when i had that one side modded the way i wanted it. look closely and those "tokicos" are not even a little bit stock.
c'mon shawn, you know most everything involved in my setup. however if you tell a soul anything, i'm not going to be very happy. you too klown!
mtcookson, i'm sure i've shown you a picture or two.
Old May 24, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDMaX024
the picture in my sig is after a month of sitting when i had that one side modded the way i wanted it. look closely and those "tokicos" are not even a little bit stock.
c'mon shawn, you know most everything involved in my setup. however if you tell a soul anything, i'm not going to be very happy. you too klown!
mtcookson, i'm sure i've shown you a picture or two.

hey what about me???

Come to think of it, I think i've ridden in the car that had them on as well!!
Old May 24, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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i just thought the 95-99 suspension was simmalar, thank you mad max, i will deff look into it a lot more. looks like the only problem i could really see is the bottom thread threading into something in the shock tower to hold it there, other then that the coilovers look like they wouldnt have much problem. the link for them is right here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...478768577&rd=1
i really do not mean to be offensive but read up alot more about suspension before you think about buying ANYTHING. take a day, pull your suspension apart and if you have any friends that keep parts laying around, compare stuff. measure, call retailers that have tech support. you're going to get laughed at by any tech support guy so get used to it. i dont know how to explain to you what you need to do other than read up on weight distribution/balance, spring rates, ride height, geometry at different heights, which struts to use, strut length.

i'm not trying to talk you out of it, but PLEASE save yourself some money and do research until you can answer any question asked about the planned setup then have a reason for using each part. i didnt do any of this and i should have. its a big learning process.

if you've got the funding and can deal with all the down time then dive in head-first and learn as you go but you should still know alot about how it works, just as a SAFETY precaution (so it doesnt react strangely to a bump, fall apart at 75mph, rip through the strut tower, etc...).
*i do not recommend diving in head-first.*

by the time you so much as touch the car to take measurements you should have a pretty good idea of what you're going to do. there will be fitment issues, you will have to cut brand new items apart to make them work. there are going to be shady pieces made. just be careful, i cant stress this enough. like i said if you need any pointers, i'm here for ya.
Old May 24, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lophix
hey what about me???

Come to think of it, I think i've ridden in the car that had them on as well!!
what about you? i havent shown you my pictures...but if you would like to discuss my setup with me you'll have to earn my trust, IM me sometime, you seem like a good guy. i dont mean to be an @$$hole but it took alot of effort to get it to where it is now, and its still not complete. i dont even know if i'm going to be able to deal with the ride quality yet.
i really dont want anyone doing this based on my ideas. i have to be as original as possible even though i used a few of another member's ideas.
i realize i could make alot of money if my setup works well but i choose not to(mostly out of respect for another .org member). it feels good to say i'm the only one with this setup.
Old May 24, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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What's the handling difference between coilovers and say a koni/eibach setup?
Old May 24, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MaDMaX024
mtcookson, i'm sure i've shown you a picture or two.
yup, seen the pictures on the your cardomain site.
Old May 24, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Weapon R "coilovers" please no.. stay away.. don't even think about it..

and no, the 95-99 won't work at all.. look at the rear struts on our cars and theirs. completely different design and shock body diameter.
Who said weaponR
You could always buy the ones that pep boys stock
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I have as well..........
I even got a ride
Old May 24, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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Mine wasn't so much of a ride, more of like a scare

I even got to drive
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Mine wasn't so much of a ride, more of like a scare

I even got to drive
Mine was a scare too

I didnt get to drive. Damn you Paul, Damn you.
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