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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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KYB GR2's with Tein H-techs? Good? Bad?

Hey, Does anyone run this spring/strut combination: KYB GR2's with Tein H-techs?

Can the GR2's handle the H-techs or will I get premature strut failure? Someone told me to beware of using anything too stiff with the GR2's. I don't think the Teins are particularly stiff springs, but wanted to get some advice before using...

GR2's are 15% stiffer than stock SE struts.

H-techs lower car 1.6 and 1.2 (front/ rear). Have spring rate of about 180/260 lbs.

Stock spring rate for SE is 120/200 lbs front/rear.

Does that sound reasonable?

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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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I can't honestly answer your question since I've seen nothing about it, but I would THINK H-Techs and GR-2s function well. I have H-Techs and AGXs and the car rebounds just as hard as when I had Sprints and AGXs. However that's due to the shock, not the spring.
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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I've installed tokicos blues with eibach springs on a 5th gen ride was really nice, even over bumps. Handling was first class also. I would assume the tein H and GR-2s would be somewhat close to that. I don't know what the spring rates are on those teins and eibachs.

I don't know how it would be in the city.
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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Eibachs are supposed to be much stiffer than Tein H-tech if that affects your opinions any. I just don't want the struts to wear-out really quickly by using too stiff a spring for them. Someone told me the GR2's die fast with really stiff springs. I don't know what their definition of "stiff" was though...
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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i have gr-2 with maxspeed springs....simlilar drop compared to Tien-H and i love it....very close to stock feel but eliminates some wheel gap....overall i think u will be ok with that setup...i was gonnago with tien-H's too but i am POOR
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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let me share a bit

agx settings 2 front 4 rears = gr2's more or less

even on the lowest setting agx are very harsh and gr2 are harsher than the agx on lowest setting and on top of that one of my agx blew after a few months on se springs and the other is leaking so
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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I'm surprised that you found the AGX to be so harsh when set to 2/4. That's only supposed to be 15% stiffer than stock SE suspension. Is it because you were used to the GLE suspension?

I'm also sorry to hear that your AGX's blew out so fast. Especially on stock SE springs. People warned me that they tend to go quickly when the springs are too stiff. The SE springs are certainly not too stiff! They are stock by definition! I hope I get more life than that out of the GR2's I ordered.

Was it the rear struts that blew, or the fronts? It seems that rears tend to go a lot sooner. I replaced both my rear struts only 1.5 years ago with stock GLE struts and they are dead already. That's why I wanted to go aftermarket this time (as well as for performance sake)

ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE WITH GR2'S AND H-TECHS?
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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Is it because you were used to the GLE suspension?
used to drive a 97 accord with eibach and tokicos both felt same but never had a problem with any part of suspension but was harsh anyways thats why i choose not to lower my max until i test the agx
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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Thanks for the input. I appreciate it. How harsh are we talking about when using the stock SE springs? How much worse with the Eibachs, like on your accord?

I don't mind a little bit of a stiff ride, but if it's really rough and miserable for everyday driving then I will not be happy.


Anyone else have experience with H-techs or GR2's, or Both? Would like to hear about longevity of the GR2's with aftermarket springs...
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TrackSmart
Thanks for the input. I appreciate it. How harsh are we talking about when using the stock SE springs? How much worse with the Eibachs, like on your accord?
I don't mind a little bit of a stiff ride, but if it's really rough and miserable for everyday driving then I will not be happy.
first my roads suck big time but the same roads i drove the accord with that set up for 1 1/2 year was stiff i got used to it cause handling was great very sharp turns no problem


maxima with set up above including all urethane bushings avaliable new control arms struts mount 2 times first time kyb struts mount shot after a few months(known issue here) riding on oem strut mounts past months after few months of installing struts (4-5) driver front start leaking and it completly shot as of now past weks passenger side front leaking same rate as the other

ride when everything was new - very STIFF maybe a little bit stiffer than accord even on lowest setting performancewise just a tad better(only shocks , no springs)

right now- ride is horrible can feel even the lines painted onthe road(not really) because of riding on worn shock for a few months ball joint seems to be taking a beat and think may need replacement strut mounts won't hold very long too hopes

this helps somebody else at least 5 people told me not to buy agx on the org i did not listen and paying my price now
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Wow. That sucks. Maybe it's time to return the GR2's even before I put them on... If the higher end model is that unreliable, I can't imagine how poorly built the lower model is!

What struts would you get then? Are there any more reliable brands out there that I could count on (and that aren't really expensive, too)?
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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dont return them - .org is very informative place but sometimes something might be fine and dandy for them and rough and miserable for you.

I'm on KYB GR2 with H&R springs , rides firm , not to floaty or harsh
my previous set up:
Sprints with KYB AGX - great drop , rough ride in winter - KYB AGX don't like low temp
H&R with KYB AGX - nice stance - ride bit better in winter
H&R with Tokico Blue up front , KYB AGX in rear - much better ride - but still something was missing
H&R with Tokico Blue up front , stock SE shocks in rear - slight better
Stock SE springs with Tokico Blue in front SE shock in rear - huge gap , but torelable ride. All of the above on stock SE 16" rims

Now i'm on H&R with KYB GR2 on 17" rims with 225/45R17 rims - rides firm , not bouncy but nowhere close to stock and much better than KYB AGX.

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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JLiusifer
i have gr-2 with maxspeed springs....simlilar drop compared to Tien-H and i love it....very close to stock feel but eliminates some wheel gap....overall i think u will be ok with that setup...i was gonnago with tien-H's too but i am POOR
yea get maxspeed. similar drop but cheaper then H-tech. the ride is very firm, not too harsh. i have tokico blues in the front and agx in the back at 2 (which is stock SE shock setting).
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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Thanks guys! I think I will give them a try. I appreciate the input. Hopefully I'll have experiences closer to those of you who are doing well with your suspensions than to the poor guy who's had no end of troubles...
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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I have GR2's and Progress. I like them but my wife thinks it's too stiff (go figure).
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by maximaah
I have GR2's and Progress. I like them but my wife thinks it's too stiff (go figure).
Hey Maximaah,

How long have you had your GR2's? Do you think they'll last a couple of years on a car with upgraded springs (like yours)?

Thanks! Great to hear from a real user. The fact that your wife thinks its too stiff and you think it's good makes me think that I probably got the right combo afterall! Yeah, wives and girlfriends aren't always performance oriented in their opinions (plenty of exceptions of course...)
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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I have the H Techs with GR2s and no problems so far. I've only had them on though for 2 months so I can't say how long they'll last. They should be fine though
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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Thanks! That's great to hear.

How's the ride compared to before? (Handling alright? Any "bounciness" over bumps and dips?)

Also, does the drop look good and even?



Originally Posted by RapidMax
I have the H Techs with GR2s and no problems so far. I've only had them on though for 2 months so I can't say how long they'll last. They should be fine though
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TrackSmart
Hey Maximaah,

How long have you had your GR2's? Do you think they'll last a couple of years on a car with upgraded springs (like yours)?

Thanks! Great to hear from a real user. The fact that your wife thinks its too stiff and you think it's good makes me think that I probably got the right combo afterall! Yeah, wives and girlfriends aren't always performance oriented in their opinions (plenty of exceptions of course...)
I've had them on almost exactly a year, haven't noticed any problems. I may take the car back to my installer and have him check things over just in case. Getting ready to move my 300ZX rims to the Maxima, will be curious to see how it changes the feel of things with wider tires. Going from 15" to 16" rims won't make any difference because the profile is lower on the Z tires, so the overal diameter is almost exactly the same.
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