need info on tranny swap(00-01 on 4th gen)

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Sep 4, 2004 | 07:04 PM

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need info on tranny swap(00-01 on 4th gen)

PLEASE PEOPLE THAT DO KNOW ABOUT THIS SWAP

i'm auto and my tranny is giving me the soon to be dead signs(cleaned and flushed filter changed every year just plain abuse)

i read a few times that we can use 6 manuals from 00-01 maximas what else if anything do i need besides the obvious(pedals,lines etc...)

there is no 4th gen manuals anywhere where i live (already check almost every junkyard) and shipping on a tranny from us is very expensive

please i don't care about 6manuals may slow me down or whatever cons and pros just need info or links with info

Sep 4, 2004 | 07:12 PM

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if your talking about 6 speed trannys then you cant do it. those are only found on the 5.5 gens. they wouldnt fit on our engines (which sucks) to get s 6-speed, you would have to do a complete engine swap
correct me if i wrong, but yea

Sep 4, 2004 | 07:21 PM

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Actually the six speeds can be put on...but definitely not a direct swap. Jeff at max tuning in NYC did it to his car.

If you are talking about a 5spd I'll tell you what I know. Keep in mind that my knowledge only extends as far as using a 2k-2k1 manual tranny on a manual 4th gen. It's pretty simple: You can use all 5th gen sensors which should come on the tranny (I'm using all but the crankshaft position sensor which didn't come with the tranny). I am also using the 5th gen speed sensor which other's have not...it works perfectly though. You can use either 4th or 5th gen axles...they will have to be from a manual though.

I believe Imstockbaby (I think that's his name) did this (manual tranny swap using a 5th gen tranny). If he did not actually do it, he was at least looking into it so he'd probably be helpful.

Good luck.

Sep 4, 2004 | 07:32 PM

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my bad i got confused about wich tranny , i want to do the 00-01 swap and from what you said is almost a drop in and only nned new axles right?

Sep 4, 2004 | 07:52 PM

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Correct. However, since you are auto this certainly is not a drop in. This will be a VERY involved/difficult project. I really am quite unaware of the specifics of a auto-manual swap though.

Sep 4, 2004 | 08:08 PM

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Correct. However, since you are auto this certainly is not a drop in. This will be a VERY involved/difficult project. I really am quite unaware of the specifics of a auto-manual swap though.

i know theres some work to be done in order to do the swap what i mean by drop in is theres nothing to cut,grind or custom fabricate to fit the tranny is just like the 4th gen,tranny same amount of work involved

Sep 4, 2004 | 08:11 PM

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There are write ups on the trans swap. It's the same trans as the 4th gen 5spd so I don't see why it would be any different.

Sep 5, 2004 | 02:14 PM

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i heard is somewhat stronger specially 3rd gear right?

Sep 5, 2004 | 02:31 PM

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That's what they say. They also don't have the diffy bearing problem you have to worry about with the 95-97 trannies.

Sep 5, 2004 | 06:05 PM

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thanx a lot for the info guys be working on this as soon as my auto finally dies ,hopefully it will last the time i need to buy everything i need

Sep 5, 2004 | 07:22 PM

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I've been reading that you actually dont need 5th gen axles, some have just used thier regular 4th gen axles and all was fine. but then I've heard the whole for the axles in the 5th gen tranny are larger, which is why you would need 5th gen axles.

Is there truth to this or are 5th gen axles need? (just want to get the record straight)

Sep 5, 2004 | 07:28 PM

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I am using 4th gen axles. I believe there is actually only one person out of several that is using 5th gen axles. Also the hole is not bigger since the axle seal has the same part number for 1995-2001

Sep 5, 2004 | 07:35 PM

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sweet.

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Sweet, wanted to get confimation of that, cause I've read a lot of people ordered new axles to go with their 5th gen trannies, so unless they needed new axles then they could have saved their money.

Thanks cause I'm going to be a victim of the 1st gear bearing disease or diffy bearing the 95-97 have for the 2nd time, so I'm going to get a 5th gen LSD tranny.

Sep 5, 2004 | 07:37 PM

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You will need at least one new axle since you will be converting to LSD.

Sep 5, 2004 | 07:39 PM

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Clarification:

* getting a 5th Gen Tranny (Open Diff) no new axles are needed the same 4th Gen ones are needed.

* Getting a 5th Gen tranny (LSD) you'll need new driver side axles? or both passenger side axles as well?

is that more acurate?

Sep 5, 2004 | 07:47 PM

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Looks better. I really don't know the specifics of converting to LSD though.

Sep 5, 2004 | 07:52 PM

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managed to find some documentation on it.

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so what you need to do this is...
-LSD tranny itself
-new seals for the LSD tranny (can be had at the nissan dealer with the infiniti CD-ROM parts list to get the #'s)...i replaced the axle seals and left the shifter seal that was on the tranny.
-CV joint/axle - DRIVERS SIDE - for an LSD infiniti I30. i DO NOT have ABS. but the guy at raxles.com sent me one made for ABS. after talking to him, he said it would work. sure enough the tooth gear on the end of the axle cleared the hub, and it went right in.
-CV joint/axle - passenger side - is the same but not a bad idea to change since you are already in there.
-new clutch and flywheel - if yours needs changing. but they the LSD and OD is all the same when it comes to clutch and flywheel.
-tranny gear oil

from the outside the trannys look IDENTICAL. Only difference by sight is the axle input on the LSD is about twice the size

Sep 5, 2004 | 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Terran

I believe Imstockbaby (I think that's his name) did this (manual tranny swap using a 5th gen tranny). If he did not actually do it, he was at least looking into it so he'd probably be helpful.

Good luck.

Naw I used a 4th gen tranny. Works great. Kinda wish I went with a 5th gen tho

When comes the first sign of diffy bearing failure, in goes a 5th gen tranny

Sep 6, 2004 | 01:14 AM

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If you get a 5th Gen tranny with the LSD, you are going to need both axles. I just finished swapping in the LSD 5th Gen tranny in to my 98. I tried to put in the axles from the 4 gen to see if they would go in. But they wouldn't go in all the way.

Sep 6, 2004 | 04:02 AM

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Just swapped a 01 in my 96 this sat ,with new 96 raxles.

Sep 6, 2004 | 06:10 AM

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Not to get in a debate but my stock pass side axle fit fine into the '01 LSD tranny. Only the drivers side one was different. This confusion has come up before too - best to be safe and have both 5th gen's ready if needed.

Sep 6, 2004 | 08:02 AM

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I know this has been asked several times before in the past but.... If anyone doesn't mind sharing how much they spent on their Auto - Manual swap, I'd appreciate it. I too will make the great leap one day soon... I know the price spans a large range depending on if you get remanufactured parts or junkyard parts... Even still, I'm just curious. Thanks.

Sep 6, 2004 | 11:15 AM

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I paid about $1300 for everything. Did the work myself.

Sep 6, 2004 | 12:19 PM

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I bought the tranny on the org about 6 months ago for 600 with the axles, clutch disc, preasure plate, and flywheel all from the 01 AE maxima. Did all the work myself last week.

Sep 6, 2004 | 01:18 PM

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i dont kno how much help i'll be but i used my old axles with my 5thgen tranny and it works just fine. also my car shifts way better then my old tranny ever did. going from 2-3 is just as fast as a 1-2 shift. but i have no clue how to do a auto to manual swap, cause i started out as a 5-sp