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Is Using Emergency Brake Bad to Stop the Car?

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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 06:50 PM
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Is Using Emergency Brake Bad to Stop the Car?

Sometimes I use the Emergency brake while stopping during high speeds. I figure that will reduce the load on the front brakes.

What do you guys think?
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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definitely a bad idea. The rear brakes are not made to stop as much weight as the fronts....plus if you use your ebrake to stop from high speeds you'll overheat them and then have nice warped BACK rotors too.....Don't worry about he load on the fronts.....
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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irish,

Whenever i put in new brakes, I use the emergency brake more for 200 miles. So i figure i can always do that. For example: Today i used the E-brake twice, but i also used the brake pedal. I don't just use E-brakes alone. I do use the brake pedal, just a TAD.....
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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I figure that will lessen the front rotor warpage
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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Having been around a while I figured you'd seen the other thread where a guy got flamed for using his e-brake to slow down.

E-brake is just rear...how would e-brake be better? More than 70% of the stopping power is in the front brakes... how would e-brake be better?

If I was you I'd delete the thread...it's going to get ugly.
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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Having been around a while I figured you'd seen the other thread where a guy got flamed for using his e-brake to slow down.

E-brake is just rear...how would e-brake be better? More than 70% of the stopping power is in the front brakes... how would e-brake be better?

If I was you I'd delete the thread...it's going to get ugly.




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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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i am going to look forward to it getting ugly

i am asking for advice. not posting that it is good to do so
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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i am going to look forward to it getting ugly

i am asking for advice. not posting that it is good to do so
Advice: don't.

Only a moron would do it.
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
Advice: don't.

Only a moron would do it.
i have a nice little reply for you. but yesterday i posted that i would not flame ppl.

so, thanks you for your , not so kind, advice
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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This is stupid, lets think, well it is obviously too late for that, but if the brake was made for it it would not be the e-brake. only a simpleton would think it is a good idea, you may wish to read your owners manual again...
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by -ZIPPIN-
i have a nice little reply for you. but yesterday i posted that i would not flame ppl.

so, thanks you for your , not so kind, advice
I gave you three chances to delete the post before I put anything public... only a moron would use an e-brake and think anything good can come of it.

If you lose all the fluid in your brake system and go careening out of control then by all means, use it. If you're driving along at 90 and think "hey, I need to slow down!" and pull your e-brake, you deserve to go sideways into that tree.
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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i used them for 200 miles twice. my rears are still fine. i have changed the front ones three times, and the rear ones once. even though i used them to help lessen the load on the front ones, while breaking them in and they did not warp.

you guys may want to re-think your replies.

i know you are loving the flaming. but think about it..
I am not saying that I use them alone. i use them to supplement the fronts.

bottom line, they have worked for me for 30,000 miles. and still no signs of warpage, while the front ones are needing re-surfaced/.....
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by -ZIPPIN-
i know you are loving the flaming. but think about it..
I am not saying that I use them alone. i use them to supplement the fronts.
What?

"Supplement" meaning you push the footbrake *and* pull the e-brake to not put so much strain on the fronts???

You do know that pulling the e-brake just activates the rear brakes, right?...there are no "different" brakes for the e-brake.
bottom line, they have worked for me for 30,000 miles. and still no signs of warpage,
....bottom line, my dad smokes and still has no signs of cancer...
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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yes i apply slight pressure on the brake pedal. yes i know the brake pedal controls front and rear.
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
bottom line, my dad smokes and still has no signs of cancer...
i am getting warm now. keep-on....
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by -ZIPPIN-
yes i apply slight pressure on the brake pedal. yes i know the brake pedal controls front and rear.
So you put slight pressue on the pedal *AND* pull the e-brake..... oh my god.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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i like the post. i think i can look at the screen forever.

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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TopElement


The brakes were designed with a certain distribution of force front and rear. The hand brake should only be used for parking, or emergencies where the brake pedal doesn't activate the brakes. If you want to stop warping rotors, get rid of the stock nissan cost-cutting crap.
now that is good advice.....

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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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when braking with just the front brakes, the car tends to lean forward, thus having most, if of all of the stopping power up front. using just the rears(I know you stated you also use the fronts, just a little), the car will still lean or dip forward, and if your rears lock up, you will skid since momentum of the car is being transferred up front.

this is almost like trying to take off from a stand still in a :fwd: vehicle. in the transition from 1st to 2nd, there may be a chirp from the drive wheels/tires because most of the weight is transferred to the rear.

I would also advise not to use the e brake primarily because your legs are more powerful than your arms, and trying to pull the e brake up in a pinch wouldnt be as effective as if you used your regular brakes.
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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thanks for the information. i can see clearly now..
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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I try to use the e brake to make u turns more sharper when I am entering the turn, but I usually fail.
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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This is stupid, lets think, well it is obviously too late for that, but if the brake was made for it it would not be the e-brake. only a simpleton would think it is a good idea, you may wish to read your owners manual again...
You think THAT'S stupid? I'll tell you what's stupid.....you using Housecor's old signature graphic. All you did was take his old signature off his website and put "SE-R" graphics on it. Unless he ok'd it (which I doubt), I'd say that's pretty lame to steal someone else's old signature and act like it's your own. Especially since housecor is one of the more respected and knowledgable members of the org. Also, putting SE-R badges on a max is like putting "Type R" badges on a Civic
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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IMO, I don't think you should use the e-brake for the reason you had mentioned.
If you continue to do so, use caution when applying the E-brake especially on highway speed. It can causes lockup to the rear brakes and make the car loose control. If done probably, E-brake can be used for "Power-drifting" fun.

Here are some info for drifting techniques:
http://www.driftsession.com/technique.htm
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by -ZIPPIN-
thanks for the information. i can see clearly now..

right on. you are welcome.
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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Whats wrong with using the regular brakes? Making a u-turn with e-brake. That all just sounds like retarded driving behavior/bad habits. Its not good, do what you want but I would think you were odd if I were riding in your car.
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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Seems to me its called an emergency brake for a reason. That would be for emergencies. Or like Vmaximus said for drifting.
Old Nov 6, 2004 | 12:04 AM
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It's fun to grab a handful of e-brake going around turns. It's as close to drifting as I can get in my front wheel drive. But as for using it to actually stop, that is pretty rediculous. I'm pretty sure the foot pedal will do fine.
Old Nov 6, 2004 | 01:21 AM
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Not sure on your car...but the E-brake on the back of the 5th gen maxima is a internal drum design...... I dont think thats made to haul the car down from speed. Not only that, if your car hits a dip, and the rear of the car becomes weightless for a second your gonna get alot of skidding.
Old Nov 6, 2004 | 05:05 AM
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I doubt it'd do any damage to the braking mechanism, but it does sound a little pointless. Your brake hydraulic system can probably put way more pressure on the rear calipers than the cable-based emergency brake handle anyway.

And yes, the 5th gens do NOT use a drum-style emergency brake. They have a cable which operates a lever on the caliper that manually pushes the caliper piston out, retracting it a little when you release it.
Old Nov 6, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TopElement
WTF, what kinda crack are you smoking with mashimaru? Come one dude, they've been the same since 95, no internal drum.
Hmmm, I thought the early 4th gen Maxima (no ABS option) has rear drum brakes?
Old Nov 6, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by chinaonnitrous1
No, its a rear disc, with a internal drum for the ebrake...
Please elaborate more from your statement, "its a rear disc, with a internal drum for the ebrake". I can not seem to visualize it in my head.
Old Nov 6, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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when i first got my license 7 years ago i forget to take the E-brake off on my chevy lumina. i drove a good 5 miles before i noticed the red warning light.
Old Nov 6, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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When you press the pedal you do use the rear brakes.....the e-brake might lock the wheels and you will slide.
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