I was thinking of getting a alarm for my car and i wanted to see if anyone else is inteseted in getting one, so anyone is inteseted can you guys help get some kind of deal, please don't flame up on me for this thread becuase I don't know any vendor that deals alot with alarm or else I try setting something up.

 

im down for viper 791xv

 

yeah i want the viper with the display on the key ring

 

same here........

 

ok then I guess that sound good but who's going to do the calling around to find a vender that want to do the group deal for us. Sorry I lack on prices on car audio and alarm so I wouldn't know what is a good price for the alarm that you all are talking about. So who can get the ball rolling for us.

 

ok guys I did some searching and I found this web site that carry the Viper 791xv for 239.99 brand new. I not sure if the price include shipping or not I'll try to call them tomorrow. Let me know how many people is interested so I can give them a count on how many people is interested. Here is the link, check it out http://www.bndonline.com/adnet1/vi79ju2bne2a.html

 

Can someone who is has a pretty good knowledge of electrical systems hook one of these up? I'm trying to decide on whether or not buying one off the internet or just buying one at a store and have installation included. Most places wont install alarms purchased elsewhere...... I may get this for christmas

 

wildman, your right they usually wont install any other products excepts theres. The install isnt really that hard but if u feel its better to get a professional to do it go for it. I'm an installer in the NY area.

 

I might be able to hook you guys up with a group deal, Im gonna check out what we have in stock in our store and get back to you soon.

 

thanks nyautostyle

 

I got mine for 220 shipped. Install isn't bad. I had an installer help me. Awesome alarm. If you get it, buy AAArechargables. You will wear them out showing it off.

 

Im down if we get this moving. if so some one Pm me

 

I would be interested. My max didn't come with keyless or oem alarm.

 

yea, lets get this going! my car is scared out there!

 

wanna tells us from where u got it for 220 shipped?

 

I think nyautostyle is trying to get this groupdeal together for us. he's checking to see how many he have on hand then he'll notify us.

 

Pearl96Max (Don) had one a while back. Someone should Pm Don and ask.
It never hurts to ask.

 

i asked don, he cant sell any to us

 

Actually it was from a GD on the org. I can't remeber for the life of me who hosted the deal. I will see if I can't find any of the paperwork. BTW, I know where you can locate a how-to for 00-03 5th gens if you need it. It is extremely detailed, and aided myself and installer during the install.

 

Didn't Maxedoutofcash host like the last two. If I'm not mistaken it's the same guy on the board from SWA.

Are you talking about Studman's writeup? Please post a link, I'm hoping 2K1s and 2K2s are similar.

 

Just get the Clifford Matrix 3.5 its the same alarm and its 205$ shipped both made by DEI EVERYTHING IS IDENTICAL except the pager clifford is carbon fiber.

 

is this true?

 

read about it on www.directed.com

 

Buying DEIs products..Viper,Python,Clifford specifically will void ANY and ALL of the lifetime warranty as well as the $2500 protection plan. Further you dont lknow where the product is coming from or if its even legitely made. I wrote down the S/Ns from the last two that I installed that were bought somewhere online, suprisingly DEI had no records of these numbers.

There is also a thread somewhere on here about DEIs current lawsuits against other online vendors selling their products. So if someone tells you DEI doesnt care it is simply...BS

Just food for thought

--Don

 

Heres the thread....DEIs current lawsuit

 

Common someone please get this group deal going.

 

Apparently warranty and everything else I mentioned doesnt appeal to you...Eh to each their own I suppose.

--Don

 

Yep, studmans write-up. It has notes added to help with both 00-01 as well as 02-03's.

www.maxima.theowensfamily.com

 

did nyautostyle come up with a price?

 

sorry i dont get it. is there any warranty on the viper or not? who/what is DEI ?

 

DEI makes Viper/clifford/hornet/valet, etc. The Viper 791 MUST be sold and installed by an authorized dealer, thats why this is tough to find online. If it is sold online, and you install it, there is NO WARRANTY, VOID, nothing. DEI will not help you, you will have no protection gaurantee, because you are not an authorized installer and that is not an authorized dealer.

so basically this...buy it from Don, warranty. buy from this group buy...no warranty, simple.

 

[Edit] Yeah, what he said ^^ I guess I type too slow...[/Edit]

DEI = Directed Electronics, Inc. - they're the makers of alarms and electronics branded with the names of Clifford, Viper, Python, Hornet, Precision Power, etc...

He's saying that if you buy an alarm from an online retailer, DEI won't honor the manufacturer warantee or any other of the "perks" you can get by paying a retailer the extra money they charge you.

Manufacturers don't like it that you can save big $ by not buying from "authorized dealers", so they don't honor any of their workmanship/quality guarantees.

HOWEVER, a lot of the time, the online retailer will give some type of in-house warrantee - meaning that if something goes wrong, you deal with the retailer and not the manufacturer...

 

wow that sucks but even if we buy from DON who is an authorized dealer and if we install it by an unauthorized dealer then is that gonna be ok or not?

besides, do we REALLY need the warranty?

 

don wont sell it to you and not install it. that also puts his reputation on the line with DEI as well. if don sells it, he will install it. same with any reputable dealer.

i guess you dont NEED the warranty with the product normally, but if you get this from the group buy, who knows where the product came from? don posted that the serial numbers he told to DEI once before werent even in their system, meaning these werent DEI products. who knows what internarls are in them and what is really going on.

a legitimate DEI product will last, but who knows what these other "dei" are like, or even how well they will work.

its just a heads up.

 

oh im backin up now lol. don lives in a different state so there is no way he can install one on my car. so i guess our best bet is to find a local authorized dealer and buy/install it there

i love .org, always a heads up

 

Don't let the scare story of DEI not knowing the serial number get to you...

There are many legitimate reasons why DEI may not have the serial number - For example, I know that certain high end watches, that are 100% authentic, when sold through "non authorized dealers" are not given a serial number or the serial number is removed. Therefore, the manufacturer wouldn't have a serial number for it.

I seriously doubt that there's a large market for counterfeit DEI alarms... again, no offense to Don, but he is a dealer and it's to his benefit that you DON'T buy from a non-authorized dealer.

 

There is actually a VERY LARGE market for counterfiet alarms,speakers,amps,etc...this is FACTUAL not an assumption. One of primary reasons products can be sold severaly under lefit dealer cost. Lower quality products put into them. They are also commonly stolen,grey marketed,refurbed,etc.

PLEASE explain how this all benefits me as a dealer by telling people the facts of what theyre buying. I mean Really explain your logic here. I stated they have no warranty, no theft coverage,etc thats all. I have been contacted by some to sell to them and ship it and I gracefully declined because its simply not allowed. Where do I benefit? I TURNED DOWN SALES. No benefit for me here at all.

No offense to you, but dont post assumptions and mislead people to benfit yourself in possible "Group Deal". If they choose to do it regardless thats the people choice, but dont mislead them with false info or your assumptions.

Ive been in the business for nearly 17 years, dealt with DEI for the majority of them, so I do have some backing in why I inform people of.

--Don

 

Please then, point us to some documentation of this so called Very Large market? I myself, haven't seen or heard of any widespread counterfeiting news regarding car alarms - of any brand. Nor have I heard of anyone who has gotten taken by these counterfeit alarms.

It not only benefits you, as a dealer, but all other authorized dealers. The proof is right here in this thread - Org members who have stated that they'll have to find an authorized dealer - ie: you and/or your peers.

If people are scared of buying from online retailers and think that they're going to be ripped off (from this widespread 'counterfeiting') if they don't purchase from an authorized dealer, then YOU tell me how that doesn't benefit you dealers?

First off, you haven't posted any concrete evidence to back up your claim of "VERY LARGE market for counterfeits" only posted dealer-biased information with the overt purpose of "warning" org members, but covertly influencing business towards authorized dealers.

Secondly, there is no group buy going on (yet) and even so, the prices members have already posted on this thread are comparible to group buy pricing - so if I wanted to get one cheap, I already could.

The point I'm making, is to inform other org members that these manufacturer sponsored scare tactics are not 100% accurate. It's like Nissan Stealerships saying that only nissan mechanics know how to fix nissans properly - not true. Stealerships push the mis-information out to the population that if you take your nissan to joe mechanic down the street, he's not going to be able to fix your car properly and worse yet, are the situations where the dealership says that having someone else work on your car can/will void the warranty.

All the more reason to take what you say with a grain of salt. Not that I, or anyone else here, is doubting your honesty and integrity as an authorized DEI dealer, but someone who has had a relationship with a manufacturer for that long is probably influenced by the manufacturer.

For instance, you could have gotten literature from DEI discussing this 'widespread' problem of counterfeiting and instead of researching this for yourself and validating the claim, accepted it as gospel from DEI on good faith and are disseminating this info to the masses.

I'm not insinuating that this is the case, but I do want to pose an alternate viewpoint to your statements.

I'm also not saying that the points you're making have no merit, but in this case, if someone purchases an alarm from a reputable online retailer, at a discounted price, the chances of it being counterfeit are very slim.

Again, I said REPUTABLE - a retailer that has a proven track record, has a privacy policy and return policy posted on their website. One who backs up the merchandise they sell, etc... Not from some guy at the swap meet, As always, it's Caveat Emptor - let the buyer beware.

 

Well what if you purchased the Alarm off Ebay form an Authorized Viper reseller and how will u prove if it was isntalled by a dealer a reciept? anyways if the price is right put me in the group deal

 

I opted to buy online due to my relationship with the dealer as well as consultation with an autherized dealer. I got my alarm and had it installed for about $450. I knew the risk of the alarm not working and took that gamble. My decision based upon my situation. Don does awesome work and I understand why he won't sell the alarm w/o him installing it. It IS his reputation. Cutting corners is not how you run a business. Skirting the rules can sour a good relationship with a dealer. If I had my own business and was authorized by a reliable company such as DEI, I would stay well within those guidlines to remain in good standing with them.

My .02. Take it for what it's worth.