Rewar sway bar...
Rear sway bar...
Any of you guys who actually have this installed... how much of a difference does it really make? I hate when im on some curves how the whole car feels like its pulling to the side, i was wondering if this was the item to help with this and if so, how much does it really help. Is it worth the bucks? Any other add-ons i should condiser?
Thanks !
Thanks !
idnumber1: If you are talking about a REAR sway bar, although I havent put one on my 05 Max YET, from 20 years of roadracing experience, I can tell you that it will likely make a very significant difference in handling. FWD cars need stiffness in the rear. Another item you can add, is a front dtrut brace from stillen. Both parts arent very expensive and will yield signicant results IMO. For extra performance, you can change rubber bushjings to urethane, but I wouldnt advise that unless you are really into handling.
Mark
Mark
Originally Posted by idnumber1
Any of you guys who actually have this installed... how much of a difference does it really make? I hate when im on some curves how the whole car feels like its pulling to the side, i was wondering if this was the item to help with this and if so, how much does it really help. Is it worth the bucks? Any other add-ons i should condiser?
Thanks !
Thanks !I can easily recommend this mod.
Bob
Except the 04 rear sway bar wont fit a 05. Anyone know why they are different? I have a friend who works for Nissan and he says they are different parts #s aswell. What are the companies that make the rsb other than Stillen?
about the sway bar not fitting the 05, they also said that about the altima strut bar "it will not fit" guess what it does........
there was a thread on this issue but can't find it right now..........
there was a thread on this issue but can't find it right now..........
I believe this was that thread: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....=rear+sway+bar
RedOpMax installed an "Altima" FSTB on his 04 max. No one claims to have installed the rsb from an 04 on a 05. RedOpMax was saying that he is confident the 04 rsb will fit the 05 because very little to nothing has been changed in that area. This means that someone will have to test out the 04 rsb on a 05.
the Stillen RSB was the first suspension mod that i'd done on my 04 max and what a day and night difference in handling! i highly recommend that mod. i guess somebody has to be guinea pig and try out the 04 RSB on the 05. good luck!
Originally Posted by idnumber1
i wouldnt try is as stillen's own website says the 04 bar will not fit the 05...
DUDE!!!!!!! just buy the fakin Cattman one....
Its Solid and Thicker and comes with PolyU bushings.
Kamski
like kam says...cattman is really good...and it is thicker...heavier...and denser than that of the stillen RSB...soo my vote goes for Cattman...and plus brian is a really great guy and will work with you to get it. as for strut bar waiting for them to become availb...and or Taz's...
PS STILL WAITING!!!
PS STILL WAITING!!!
I've heard many bad things reguarding the stillen FSTB. Mainly clearance issues, so this is why I am awaiting Taz's FSTB and front endlinks...and will pair it up with the SE-R front sway bar for the ultimate 6th suspension package!
Well I have both, the rear sway bar (Progress) and the front strut bar (stillen) and it made a hell of a difference. I am pretty use to it now and its hard to know how much of a difference it really made because I forgot what it felt like before I put them in, but I DO remember that corners and turns were terrible before I put them in and now after they have been installed, I dont even really feel the car shifting to the side on corners and turns. Its definately a MUST DO mod, but I would also recommend that you get the front strut bar as well.
Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
I've heard many bad things reguarding the stillen FSTB. Mainly clearance issues, so this is why I am awaiting Taz's FSTB and front endlinks...and will pair it up with the SE-R front sway bar for the ultimate 6th suspension package! 

I have Progress RSB - Check Cattman if he still has the $152 group deal. Do not install backward, just pay attention.
Get Racingline endlinks - tighter connection to the frame.
I have Stillen FSTB - had to file 1/8 inch off intake collector to avoid FSTB touching hood or touching intake when in reverse. I have 5sp auto and I suspect engine may sit a tad higher than manual/4 sp.
Real happy.
Get Racingline endlinks - tighter connection to the frame.
I have Stillen FSTB - had to file 1/8 inch off intake collector to avoid FSTB touching hood or touching intake when in reverse. I have 5sp auto and I suspect engine may sit a tad higher than manual/4 sp.
Real happy.
Just a quick question, as simple as a FTSB and a rear sway bar are to install (and cheap to produce), why would Nissan not install these on all their vehicles? Are there any drawbacks to ride (to stiff) quality? Please let me know as I was also looking to upgrade some suspension/handling. A while back I remember reading that FTSB wasn't as noticable as the RSB. Or do you need both to really notice anything?
Hey guys,
A friend of mine whos got a max says having a rear sway bar, does not increase the stifness on an 05 SE. I feel that he is wrong, as it is, i can feel lots of bumps and the ride isnt cushiony on an SE, so how can adding a RSB not add to the stiffness?
Plus, nissan told me, there are no aftermarket suspension parts you can add to make your ride more comfy like the SL, they said even if you get michelin pilots or high end all season tires, that wouldnt make a difference when compared to the stock tires. Is this true for both the RSB and suspension/tires?
I feel the info im gettin from these ppl aint accurate.
A friend of mine whos got a max says having a rear sway bar, does not increase the stifness on an 05 SE. I feel that he is wrong, as it is, i can feel lots of bumps and the ride isnt cushiony on an SE, so how can adding a RSB not add to the stiffness?
Plus, nissan told me, there are no aftermarket suspension parts you can add to make your ride more comfy like the SL, they said even if you get michelin pilots or high end all season tires, that wouldnt make a difference when compared to the stock tires. Is this true for both the RSB and suspension/tires?
I feel the info im gettin from these ppl aint accurate.
I used a regular $5 flat file to shave the intake. Its aluminum and quite soft. 5-10 minutes. Put rags around to collect the bits of metal.
Nissan would need labor to study/pick performance parts, $$ to buy, $$ to install them. They are just trying to sell you a competitively price car.
I found my SE suspension quite harsh when I got the MAX. The heavy, wide rims and tires pick-up a lot of the road imperfections. The RSA's are stiff tires. Michelin or Conti have softer sidewalls and could make your ride more confortable.
True, the FTSB is not as noticable as the RSB because it has a different purpose. FrontStrutTowerBrace keep the front struts from racking, twisting, helping to keep the camber/alignment... unchanged during hard cornering. Front/RearSwayBars, help to keep the car flat during cornering. No effect on straight line. Sway bars affect your over/understeer. All these make your MAX more predictable/tighter.
My Progress RSB did not affect my straight line driving, not worst, not better.
Cornering is awsome.
I report, you decide.
Nissan would need labor to study/pick performance parts, $$ to buy, $$ to install them. They are just trying to sell you a competitively price car.
I found my SE suspension quite harsh when I got the MAX. The heavy, wide rims and tires pick-up a lot of the road imperfections. The RSA's are stiff tires. Michelin or Conti have softer sidewalls and could make your ride more confortable.
True, the FTSB is not as noticable as the RSB because it has a different purpose. FrontStrutTowerBrace keep the front struts from racking, twisting, helping to keep the camber/alignment... unchanged during hard cornering. Front/RearSwayBars, help to keep the car flat during cornering. No effect on straight line. Sway bars affect your over/understeer. All these make your MAX more predictable/tighter.
My Progress RSB did not affect my straight line driving, not worst, not better.
Cornering is awsome.
I report, you decide.
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 10,197
From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
As for the FTSB, Not sure why you had to shave yours, however mine and many others I have seen in members rides required NO shaving, mine fits perfect!!!
Is Taz's FSTB ready for release yet? I personally would rather wait and
not take a chance with Stillen. Even their instructions would state
to shave the intake.
RSB is the best bang for your buck. Any yet I see many 4&5th gen
Maxes out there with rims, exhaust, lowered springs, etc, but no RSB.
not take a chance with Stillen. Even their instructions would state
to shave the intake.
RSB is the best bang for your buck. Any yet I see many 4&5th gen
Maxes out there with rims, exhaust, lowered springs, etc, but no RSB.
Originally Posted by Albert
Is Taz's FSTB ready for release yet? I personally would rather wait and
not take a chance with Stillen. Even their instructions would state
to shave the intake.
RSB is the best bang for your buck. Any yet I see many 4&5th gen
Maxes out there with rims, exhaust, lowered springs, etc, but no RSB.
not take a chance with Stillen. Even their instructions would state
to shave the intake.
RSB is the best bang for your buck. Any yet I see many 4&5th gen
Maxes out there with rims, exhaust, lowered springs, etc, but no RSB.

Originally Posted by RHMax
Some care more about visual than performance.
*when available
Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
I've heard many bad things reguarding the stillen FSTB. Mainly clearance issues, so this is why I am awaiting Taz's FSTB and front endlinks...and will pair it up with the SE-R front sway bar for the ultimate 6th suspension package! 


Kamski
Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
We need to go with the "sleeper look" though! Progress springs/RSB+KYB shocks/struts+racingline endlinks+FSTB*+front racingline endlinks*+FSB from the SE-R+performance tires=amazing fun and stable high speeds FTMFW!
*when available

*when available

We need to go with the "sleeper look" though! Progress springs/RSB+KYB AGX shocks/Koni struts+racingline endlinks+ racingline FSTB*+ front racingline endlinks*+FSB from the SE-R + performance tires Toyo RA1 or Toyo TR1=amazing fun and stable high speeds FTMFW!
*when available
I have all that excluding the front sway bar. And I can pretty much out corner everything out on the local tracks. You should see the 350Z / G35 guys out there that are totaly shocked when they go up against my car, especially on the local D circuit tracks
granted they have greater accell at the moment but I can out break them and out corner them all the time. One guy has a beautifull 350Z Nismo Edition "nismo rims, nismo swaybars, Nismo suspension, Nismo Exhaust, Toyo RA1 track tires". This guy I couldnt beat, I can tail him all day but that lighter car just has it all. He does lose however on sharp corners, where I can power through them, he has to let off so he wont spin out. That car I cannot beat, everything else out there, doest stand a chance against my family sedan
Tee Hee Hee
Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
We need to go with the "sleeper look" though! Progress springs/RSB+KYB AGX shocks/Koni struts+racingline endlinks+ racingline FSTB*+ front racingline endlinks*+FSB from the SE-R + performance tires Toyo RA1 or Toyo TR1=amazing fun and stable high speeds FTMFW!
*when available
I have all that excluding the front sway bar. And I can pretty much out corner everything out on the local tracks. You should see the 350Z / G35 guys out there that are totaly shocked when they go up against my car, especially on the local D circuit tracks
granted they have greater accell at the moment but I can out break them and out corner them all the time.
One guy has a beautifull 350Z Nismo Edition "nismo rims, nismo swaybars, Nismo suspension, Nismo Exhaust, Toyo RA1 track tires". This guy I couldnt beat, I can tail him all day but that lighter car just has it all. He does lose however on sharp corners, where I can power through them, he has to let off so he wont spin out. That car I cannot beat, everything else out there, doest stand a chance against my family sedan
Tee Hee Hee
*when available
I have all that excluding the front sway bar. And I can pretty much out corner everything out on the local tracks. You should see the 350Z / G35 guys out there that are totaly shocked when they go up against my car, especially on the local D circuit tracks
granted they have greater accell at the moment but I can out break them and out corner them all the time. One guy has a beautifull 350Z Nismo Edition "nismo rims, nismo swaybars, Nismo suspension, Nismo Exhaust, Toyo RA1 track tires". This guy I couldnt beat, I can tail him all day but that lighter car just has it all. He does lose however on sharp corners, where I can power through them, he has to let off so he wont spin out. That car I cannot beat, everything else out there, doest stand a chance against my family sedan
Tee Hee Hee
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 10,197
From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
We need to go with the "sleeper look" though! Progress springs/RSB+KYB shocks/struts+racingline endlinks+FSTB*+front racingline endlinks*+FSB from the SE-R+performance tires=amazing fun and stable high speeds FTMFW!
*when available

*when available

I have almost everything you listed, however have not seen any front endlinks for the Max yet??? 411 anyone...
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 10,197
From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by xoomer.com
Its funny, the age automatically changed in my description due to my recent bday. Shoot, you will guys know when I hit 65 still driving the max. hehe




