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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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P0011?

I recently had my oil changed and two days later my SES light comes on. The codes were P0011 which is camshaft position-timing over advance (bank 1). Question is, could this code be related to something that might have been done poorly with my oil change?
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Highly unlikely, it simply is a coincidence. Changing your oil should not have anything to do with that code.
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Thanks. I just wasn't sure if something like an oil overfill, or some clog or contamination in the oil passage would set this off.
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Does anyone know what camshaft position-timing over advance (bank 1) means? I know that this is the generic OBD II code, but what kinds of problems does this code lead to? just looking for suggestions before I haul it in to the dealership.
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Where can we find a list of codes and explanations? Thanks
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Check to make sure your car isn't covered by the cam/crank sensor recall first.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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A list of the codes can be found in the FAQ thread at the top of the 5th gen forum. The explanations aren't there, but as we find threads that explain it, we'll update the FAQ with the links.
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Wow, what a coincendence! I had my oil changed and 15-20 miles later I'm getting P0011 and P0300 codes!

I just replaced my camshaft position sensor a few weeks ago. I'm wondering if I got a bad sensor?

Of course I'm at 82k miles and haven't taken it in for the 75k mile service yet. They wanted to do the injectors and some other stuff.

When is the recommended interval for changing spark plugs?

Trouble-free for 7 1/2 years and now it looks like the car wants to start nickel and diming me.
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Wow, what a coincendence! I had my oil changed and 15-20 miles later I'm getting P0011 and P0300 codes!

I just replaced my camshaft position sensor a few weeks ago. I'm wondering if I got a bad sensor?

Of course I'm at 82k miles and haven't taken it in for the 75k mile service yet. They wanted to do the injectors and some other stuff.
When is the recommended interval for changing spark plugs?

Trouble-free for 7 1/2 years and now it looks like the car wants to start nickel and diming me.
Im pretty sure about 100k
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Im pretty sure about 100k

I guess I might have to do it a little early

I was looking at the FSM and there are a bunch of things that could be causing the problem.

I'm going to see I can print them out at work and try to cross reference the P0300 and P0011 codes to see if there is something common to both of them.

Car is idling like crap and always feels like it's going to stall.

I just replaced the camshaft sensor (bank 1) 3 weeks ago, and P0011 references bank 1. I'm wondering if I got a bad sensor? If so, I hope I still have the receipt - not sure about the return policy, but I don't like spending $80 for bad parts!

If not the sensor, I guess I'm going to start replacing parts 1 at a time. Spark plugs & wires shouldn't be too bad.
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Oil is indeed relevant......

Originally Posted by JThomas
I recently had my oil changed and two days later my SES light comes on. The codes were P0011 which is camshaft position-timing over advance (bank 1). Question is, could this code be related to something that might have been done poorly with my oil change?
The P0011 code relates to the variable valve timing solenoid/valve assembly. Yes, the oil can affect it, according to my research. The usual causes are low oil level and/or dirty oil. As such, your case could be a coincidence, or something as odd as the "fresh" detergent from the new oil "broke loose" some debris that lodged in the valve. There's simply no way to know. Google it and you'll see where a couple of people claim this to be the case. The valve in question has small passages within its body, which invites fouling by impurities. There's no way to "prove" it, so this is just FYI for people reading this dated thread. I have this code after replacing both cam position sensors (P0340, P0345) and the crank position sensor (P0335)! I've no idea what to do next!!
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I agree, the P0011 and P0021 codes can be affected by dirty and/or low oil levels.
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And we bumped this thread why?
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And we bumped this thread why?
Because prizmeye asked the same question even if s/he didn't use a question mark. My translation:

Originally Posted by prizmeye
I have this code even after replacing both cam position sensors (P0340, P0345) and the crank position sensor (P0335)! What should I do next?
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This thread is about IVT control on the CVTC's whereas the P0340/45 are the phase sensors, a little different and primzeye needs to search under the term P0340, there are plenty of hits for that search.
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PO011 & PO021 codes can also be caused by a build up of sludge around the cam areas. I would try an engine flush before I start replacing parts.
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Originally Posted by rroderiques77
PO011 & PO021 codes can also be caused by a build up of sludge around the cam areas. I would try an engine flush before I start replacing parts.
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Originally Posted by rroderiques77
PO011 & PO021 codes can also be caused by a build up of sludge around the cam areas. I would try an engine flush before I start replacing parts.
Tried it, didn't work. Usually just get a pending P0340 code but sometimes I also get a pending P0011 and P0021 as well. Still can't figure out exactly what the problem is. Already replaced the bank 1 camshaft position sensor, plus all three were replaced under the recall.
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Cam actuators...
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Originally Posted by rroderiques77
What man
Seemed as if you were replying to someone in the earlier part of the thread, back in 2005
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Seemed as if you were replying to someone in the earlier part of the thread, back in 2005
Nope. Just information for anyone reading this thread.
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I agree, the P0011 and P0021 codes can be affected by dirty and/or low oil levels.
Agreed.... my 5.5 eats up oil and I threw P0011. Added oil and cleared the codes. FIXED.
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Agreed.... my 5.5 eats up oil and I threw P0011. Added oil and cleared the codes. FIXED.
Inherent VQ35 trait...
Old Aug 30, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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P0011 and P0300...?

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Agreed.... my 5.5 eats up oil and I threw P0011. Added oil and cleared the codes. FIXED.
i have the same code, i removed the solenoid, took it apart, cleaned with carburetor cleaner and put it back and i still get the code, but i havent looked at the oil level in a while. i also got the P0300 (multiple misfire) so i checked the spark plugs, the coil packages, disconnected every coil package (but the one in bank one under the IM) to see if the idle speed diminishes (and it does) so i dont know what is going on, funny thing is that i put fuel system cleaner on the tank and drove all the way from Long Island to Buffalo (some good 400+ miles) all hwy and after a while the light went off. drove in buffalo for two days city driving and the light came back on. and then on the way back (nearly 500 miles hwy) the light went back off and now its on again WTF?????? i cant figure this one out, ive been doing some research but i cant get a clear answer on what the issue is
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P0011 *IT IS!!!*

Originally Posted by NmexMAX
This thread is about IVT control on the CVTC's whereas the P0340/45 are the phase sensors, a little different and primzeye needs to search under the term P0340, there are plenty of hits for that search.
No, in point of fact, the P0340/P0345 (and possibly even P0335) are apparently inextricably linked in my case, so I am in fact in the CORRECT thread. Bumping historical threads is a hang-up that folks need to GET OVER. My car's a 2002. Thus, anything posted from THEN ON is indeed relevant. When anyone (myself included) bumps an old thread, it descends from the fact that an adequate answer has not been reached (as in this case), or we are trying to share with future Google (and/or other search engine) users who have problems to solve NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. This fascination with the "age" of a thread is completely unfounded. This is a "timeless medium" in that since.

In my case, I've performed exhaustive searches, none of which directly/completely address why I went from P0340/P0345 to P0335, and now have P0011 despite the car running ~OK. The code continues to be set and the SES illuminates, so the troubleshooting continues. So, yes, this P0011 thread is the place to be now. The P0340/5 thread is bereft of anything useful; believe me, I KNOW!
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Do you have an FSM? I usually start there to begin my troubleshooting, vs an internet car forum where endless gobs of "knowledge" are present.
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Originally Posted by prizmeye
No, in point of fact, the P0340/P0345 (and possibly even P0335) are apparently inextricably linked in my case, so I am in fact in the CORRECT thread. Bumping historical threads is a hang-up that folks need to GET OVER. My car's a 2002. Thus, anything posted from THEN ON is indeed relevant. When anyone (myself included) bumps an old thread, it descends from the fact that an adequate answer has not been reached (as in this case), or we are trying to share with future Google (and/or other search engine) users who have problems to solve NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. This fascination with the "age" of a thread is completely unfounded. This is a "timeless medium" in that since.

In my case, I've performed exhaustive searches, none of which directly/completely address why I went from P0340/P0345 to P0335, and now have P0011 despite the car running ~OK. The code continues to be set and the SES illuminates, so the troubleshooting continues. So, yes, this P0011 thread is the place to be now. The P0340/5 thread is bereft of anything useful; believe me, I KNOW!
first of all, cool down dude, but i agree with you, forums are supposed to be helpful for us owners, it should not be a place where members believe that having a big number of post would allow them to be "dix" to others, if anyone asks something is because s/he does not know and is looking for advise from somebody with more experience. that is not an excuse not to do research of course, but sometimes it is not easy to find the answers one is looking for and sometimes there is no answer, so if someone posts a question which is already addressed (either in the same thread or other thread) instead of being an A-hole, either direct the person to the right thread or dont post!

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Do you have an FSM? I usually start there to begin my troubleshooting, vs an internet car forum where endless gobs of "knowledge" are present.
i have the FMS and P0011 and P0340 are in fact related, P0340 can be one of the causes of P0011
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i have the FMS and P0011 and P0340 are in fact related, P0340 can be one of the causes of P0011
Then try & fix the root cause of P0340, which is what I actually stated earlier.
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P0011 Once More & I Driver 'er Off a Cliff!!! :p

Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Do you have an FSM? I usually start there to begin my troubleshooting, vs an internet car forum where endless gobs of "knowledge" are present.
Again, been there, done that. I have the Haynes manual (which is virtually USELESS if your car is a 5th generation, by the way; yes, even the "updated" version bites). Pored over the Nissan FSM, and it's full of errors too numerous to recount herein. Let's just say they describe/show the WRONG sensors, etc.; it's an apparent factory error. Done the 0340/345 troubleshooting; revealed nothing is wrong w/ the harness, etc. New camshaft sensors greatly IMPROVED the car (it's now driveable, whereas earlier it was to the point that it was not). Crankshaft followed (P0335), so I dropped the cash as all of these have never been properly addressed by Nissan (even the recalled ones they replaced have been bad!). Now, the car "loves" P0011. Even bought another crank sensor after it seemed suspect (new case of hard starting). No improvement. Now (today), car didn't indicate an SES as soon, so I thought I was home free...nope, it came back on while driving home from work. There's something odd going on, and I highly doubt all this stuff "broke" simultaneously. I cannot find the missing factor, and I doubt switching the cam timing solenoid/valve will fix it; it's likely a spurious code.
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Again, been there, done that. I have the Haynes manual (which is virtually USELESS if your car is a 5th generation, by the way; yes, even the "updated" version bites). Pored over the Nissan FSM, and it's full of errors too numerous to recount herein. Let's just say they describe/show the WRONG sensors, etc.; it's an apparent factory error. Done the 0340/345 troubleshooting; revealed nothing is wrong w/ the harness, etc. New camshaft sensors greatly IMPROVED the car (it's now driveable, whereas earlier it was to the point that it was not). Crankshaft followed (P0335), so I dropped the cash as all of these have never been properly addressed by Nissan (even the recalled ones they replaced have been bad!). Now, the car "loves" P0011. Even bought another crank sensor after it seemed suspect (new case of hard starting). No improvement. Now (today), car didn't indicate an SES as soon, so I thought I was home free...nope, it came back on while driving home from work. There's something odd going on, and I highly doubt all this stuff "broke" simultaneously. I cannot find the missing factor, and I doubt switching the cam timing solenoid/valve will fix it; it's likely a spurious code.
I have an intermittent P0011&21, but they are usually stored and not the cause of my SES, and the performance is fine.

Hard to believe the FSM has that many errors. I know in 99, there were a couple of errors here and there, but not in 02/3.
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i started looking at P0340 but did not go too deep on that (lack of time) but i will, im more concerned now with P0300, i checked my oil a couple of days ago and the dipstick came out clean but no oil pressure light on the dashboard ill be changing oil this weekend though and try to check the bank 1 coil packs to see if it get better. i believe i have good power but i think its still lacking some (i have not driven any other max to compare) and sometimes when i accelerate esp in 3rd there is a "puslation" as if i was depressing and letting go the gas pedal as it accelerates, its weird and not all the time. now for the power, my comparison point is my MX-5 it has almost 80 HP less but it feels more peppy, like if it kicked harder, but it may also be the suspension, the MX-5 has stiff sport susp vs the really bouncy "cadillac type" susp of the max that absorbs the kick of the car??
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i started looking at P0340 but did not go too deep on that (lack of time) but i will, im more concerned now with P0300, i checked my oil a couple of days ago and the dipstick came out clean but no oil pressure light on the dashboard ill be changing oil this weekend though and try to check the bank 1 coil packs to see if it get better. i believe i have good power but i think its still lacking some (i have not driven any other max to compare) and sometimes when i accelerate esp in 3rd there is a "puslation" as if i was depressing and letting go the gas pedal as it accelerates, its weird and not all the time. now for the power, my comparison point is my MX-5 it has almost 80 HP less but it feels more peppy, like if it kicked harder, but it may also be the suspension, the MX-5 has stiff sport susp vs the really bouncy "cadillac type" susp of the max that absorbs the kick of the car??
The P0300 series denotes ignition misfires on multiple cylinders. Search the forums heron for that code and something like "(ignition) coil packs." You don't indicate year/mileage, so it's a little harder to help you....
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I have an intermittent P0011&21, but they are usually stored and not the cause of my SES, and the performance is fine.

Hard to believe the FSM has that many errors. I know in 99, there were a couple of errors here and there, but not in 02/3.
Shall I mention that the Haynes manual also erroneously refers to a crank position sensor on the front of the engine, including a photo, for "1995 and later" that simply does not exist? I crawled around w/ a flashlight just to make sure I'm not dreaming. They're quoting old data and selling the manual as though it's up to date.

What a joke; hopefully this note will help others save the hours I've wasted.... I've also downloaded 2003, so I may look @ that. (Why haven't I? Mine was built in late 2001 but is a 2002 model, so it didn't seem wise until now).
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So, the 02/3 FSM is awarded with the same errors?

Haynes manual is as good as Ray Charles leading Stevie Wonder into an intersection ..

Can you be nice, and not so aggressive .. as in be nice to your peers, and; without violence, let us work together to sort this problem out.... will that work ok?
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2003 FSM Remains Erroneous

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So, the 02/3 FSM is awarded with the same errors?

Haynes manual is as good as Ray Charles leading Stevie Wonder into an intersection ..

Can you be nice, and not so aggressive .. as in be nice to your peers, and; without violence, let us work together to sort this problem out.... will that work ok?
Reviewed 2003 FSM last night, and wasn't surprised to find no revisions whatsoever on this topic. Text refers to Crank sensor bolted to "aluminum oil pan" in 2002/03. Well, it never was in these years; it's the timing cover, technically, but my car has no such thing. The PICTURE, however, shows the bellhousing-mounted sensor correctly (i.e., REAR-mounted). The tapped bosses are there from an earlier design, but no sensor and no associated wiring harness for it. Almost all the parts databases erroneously show the older style as well. Very few get it right. I live in communist California, but I don't see a Federal/State difference mentioned anywhere, so I've discounted that. The FSM (sort of, as above) and parts folks "suggest" two cranks sensors, but I'll be da**** if I can find any other than the one, after crawling around beneath and peering from above w/ a light for anything "stray" I missed. How many crank sensors do you folks have (specifically, on 2002's if possible)? Mine was built in late 2001, but a 2002 model....
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P0011, P0021

Hello,

I just bought a 2002 GLE about a month ago. It has 65K miles on it. I just got these two codes as well. From reading all the past posts on the topic, it seems there is a lack of consensus on what causes and cures the problem.

In my case, the car is running fine, no stalling, no rough idle, nothing. The dealer I bought the car from alleges they changed the oil before selling the car and that seems to have been the catalyst for the codes setting in other people's cases. I'm thinking maybe since this car was driven so few miles per year the oil change may have stirred up some debris or something.

Anyway, would it be a good idea to get the oil changed? I checked and my oil is still full, I don't seem to be burning any large amount of oil.

How about if I just let it sit for 6 months with this code? Am I risking anything catastrophic like engine failure or something? I'm not going to throw money at the problem by replacing all these sensors if it's not necessary. It looks like a lot of you did that and were still throwing the same codes. What does the forum think?
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First check and see that the wire to the solenoid is actually connected.
I don't think this code will cause any kind of engine failure...
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First check and see that the wire to the solenoid is actually connected.
I don't think this code will cause any kind of engine failure...
I will check that. I went and got the oil changed to synthetic anyway since that's what I run in all my cars. I also got the radiator flushed since I have no idea when that was last done. The dealer said they changed the trans fluid so I'll believe them. The car does slip when cold though, but from searching it seems like everyone's cars do that. Funny they didn't design a trans that can handle the great motor.
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Originally Posted by Maxident

How about if I just let it sit for 6 months with this code? Am I risking anything catastrophic like engine failure or something? I'm not going to throw money at the problem by replacing all these sensors if it's not necessary. It looks like a lot of you did that and were still throwing the same codes. What does the forum think?
If your car is like mine, the problem will show up every month or two in the form of a hard hesitation when you get on it (almost always before the car is fully warmed up) or bump the rev limiter. Then the car will go into limp home mode (slow acceleration, hesitation if you give it anything more than light throttle) until you pull over, turn off the car for 20-30 seconds and then restart it. Runs fine until the next incident. Never get an actual SES light but I do get a pending P0340 code and occasionally a P0011 and more rarely also a P0021 code. I've changed the camshaft position sensor, cleaned the grounding points for the IVT solenoids and had the oil system flushed. I check the oil regularly to make sure it stays right near the full mark. No one seems to have a real clue what the problem is. I may just go ahead and replace the IVT solenoids when I change plugs (since the intake has to come off to remove the bank 1 solenoid) and see if that helps.



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