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Old Apr 30, 2001 | 03:36 PM
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here is the situation: My transmission is pretty darn close to going out, and it is an auto. I have found a 95 5speed tranny and everything i would need, (i think) what i am getting at is this a smart decision, or is it not possible. The other transmission is in a maxima that has been wrecked in the back, it has no harm to it. (engine) i cant just get a new 5-speed max, so i want to try and switch. That would be cool though, a gle with a 5-speed??? any feedback appreciated

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Old Apr 30, 2001 | 03:47 PM
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you need

you need the 5-speed ECU and some other equipment too my friend.

Do a search. Daniel B. Martin compiled a pretty good list of what you need for the conversion.
Old Apr 30, 2001 | 04:57 PM
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buying a brand new manual is a better choice than rebuilding!
Old Apr 30, 2001 | 09:00 PM
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sweet, this looks like the way i am gonna go- no more automagic( i hope)
Old Apr 30, 2001 | 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by G-ride95Max
sweet, this looks like the way i am gonna go- no more automagic( i hope)
You might want to email Turbo95Max, I know he is doing the conversion soon on his car, or at least is gathering parts and has done extensive reasearch.
Old May 1, 2001 | 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by G-ride95Max
here is the situation: My transmission is pretty darn close to going out, and it is an auto. I have found a 95 5speed tranny and everything i would need, (i think) what i am getting at is this a smart decision, or is it not possible. The other transmission is in a maxima that has been wrecked in the back, it has no harm to it. (engine) i cant just get a new 5-speed max, so i want to try and switch. That would be cool though, a gle with a 5-speed??? any feedback appreciated

-beau
Possible? Yes. Practical? No.

Price it out. You will faint when you find out how expensive this is.
Don't imagine this is just a trans-for-trans swap. You will need a
flywheel, clutch, throwout bearing, clutch pedal, clutch
hydraulics, shifter, etc. etc.

If you are absolutely in love with the idea of converting to 5-speed, look
for a wrecked car (an organ donor) that you can buy for low money. That
way you get everything you need in one package.
Old May 1, 2001 | 07:36 AM
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He stated in his post that he did have a donor car.
Old May 1, 2001 | 07:54 AM
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It's a matter of interpretation

Originally posted by medicsonic
He stated in his post that he did have a donor car.
You may be right. I read his post twice and my interpretation was that he had located a wrecked Maxima from which he could buy the transmission.

He said "I have found a 95 5speed tranny ..." which is not the same as "I have purchased a 95 5speed wreck ..."
Old May 1, 2001 | 08:13 AM
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I don't mean to sound discouraging, but this is one of the 3 things I would never do to a car.

1. Convert Manual to auto or vice versa.
2. Add ABS to a non ABS car.
3. Add a sunroof.


For 1, there's alot of complexity. Given today's very computerized cars, its more than a simple hardware swap to get it right. And given the complexity, too much potential for something going wrong. Not to mention, more expensive in the long run.

For 2, this is open heart surgery to your brake system. Can you really trust your brakes after the conversion?? Adding hydraulic lines and computer sensors, also complex with too much potential for going wrong. Get it from the factory.

For 3, the potentail for leaks is too great. Get it from the factory. Nuff said.

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Old May 1, 2001 | 08:20 AM
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Amen times three

Originally posted by dwapenyi
I don't mean to sound discouraging, but this is one of the 3 things I would never do to a car.

1. Convert Manual to auto or vice versa.
2. Add ABS to a non ABS car.
3. Add a sunroof.


For 1, there's alot of complexity. Given today's very computerized cars, its more than a simple hardware swap to get it right. And given the complexity, too much potential for something going wrong. Not to mention, more expensive in the long run.

For 2, this is open heart surgery to your brake system. Can you really trust your brakes after the conversion?? Adding hydraulic lines and computer sensors, also complex with too much potential for going wrong. Get it from the factory.

For 3, the potentail for leaks is too great. Get it from the factory. Nuff said.

DW
Amen times three. The fact that you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.
Old May 1, 2001 | 03:02 PM
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daniel martin- could you be a bigger bit*h about this, it was just a damn idea. Just becasue i was curious if it could be done doesnt mean you have to call it not practical. I mean come on, i go to your for everything else, its not like i wont believe you if you just say i would recommend not doing it. My fault for the NOT PRactical idea.

-beau
Old May 1, 2001 | 03:16 PM
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G-Ride95Max,

All Daniel Martin is trying to do is save you the trouble. He is just trying to point out that is would be very tough and not practical to do. I didnt think he or anyone else was being a bi*ch about it. Just listen to him, he knows what he is doing. Like other people said to, there is too big of a chance that many things will go wrong. Take Care
Old May 1, 2001 | 03:22 PM
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Impractical

Originally posted by G-ride95Max
daniel martin- could you be a bigger bit*h about this, it was just a damn idea. Just becasue i was curious if it could be done doesnt mean you have to call it not practical. I mean come on, i go to your for everything else, its not like i wont believe you if you just say i would recommend not doing it. My fault for the NOT PRactical idea.

-beau
Your original post said "any feedback appreciated". You got feedback. There is nothing insulting in the word "impractical". If you think there is you need to look in the dictionary.
Old May 1, 2001 | 03:30 PM
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It's been done on a 3-gen before. Having a complete donor car(of a similar year) would be the only economical way to do it. That and some diy skill and patience.

Swapping from auto to 5-sp is one thing, swapping from non-abs to abs is another thing. If the tranny don't work, it's not life threatening. If the abs go funky, so does your car?
Old May 1, 2001 | 03:46 PM
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I don't know if this makes a difference, but the GLE and SE Automatics have an electronically controlled liquid filled engine mount. Since this mount is only on the autoboxes and not the 5sp'd, it seems to me you might need an engine mount as well?
Old May 1, 2001 | 04:21 PM
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no hard feelings daniel b. maxima- i do have a donor car and i should of specified that- my brother and i are really interested in doing this. So i guess i will go from here and let you all know how it goes. ( i still have to wait for the tranny to go, but by the way its acting, it should be soon.

beau
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