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what is the difference between 4th gen and 5th gen stillen S/C kits?

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Old May 8, 2005 | 04:03 AM
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what is the difference between 4th gen and 5th gen stillen S/C kits?

what is the difference between 4th gen and 5th gen stillen S/C kits?
does anyone know off the top of their heads..?
or should I just call stillen?
Old May 8, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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the piping. The 5th gen has the maf in a draw through design.
Old May 8, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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that's it...so all I would have to do is purchase piping from stillen and silicone couplers to convert my 4th gen V1 kit to a 5th gen? what what is the reason for this? any pics? I can't really picture the different maf position in the de-k in my head vs. the location of the maf in the 4th gen VQ...
Old May 8, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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the 5th gens had problems with the MAF on the charged side. So instead of the standard pancake filter you see with the 4th gen kits, the 5th gen has a crossover pipe that routes from the SC back across the valve cover and down into the empty section near the battery.

EDIT: taken from Hnda_Etr's webpage
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so it's not a location or space issue...it's a problem with the maf? so if I were using the Z32 maf, would I need to use the 5th gen piping or can I stick with the 4th gen piping?
Old May 8, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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don't want to be responsible for anything, however it should be safe to assume

4th gen car - 4th gen setup
5th gen car - 5th gen setup

regardless of the SC kit. Just do the CAI addition to it
Old May 9, 2005 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelnyden
so it's not a location or space issue...it's a problem with the maf? so if I were using the Z32 maf, would I need to use the 5th gen piping or can I stick with the 4th gen piping?
I've been running a Z32 maf on the charged side for a year and a half now, with no problems at all.
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what I meant was....the 5th gen kit only differs in maf location...from different piping, that was done to protect the maf...but if I were using the Z32 maf anyway, wouldn't it be okay to just keep using the 4th gen piping in my current kit in order to keep the maf where it would be in the stock 5th gen location which is what the 4th gen S/C kit piping does anyway..?..?
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hey larrio, did I read this right? you have a technosquare ecu on your '01? were you the first for something? didn't know they actually had an ecu for the 00-01's...I know JWT doesn't....
Old May 9, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelnyden
what I meant was....the 5th gen kit only differs in maf location...from different piping, that was done to protect the maf...but if I were using the Z32 maf anyway, wouldn't it be okay to just keep using the 4th gen piping in my current kit in order to keep the maf where it would be in the stock 5th gen location which is what the 4th gen S/C kit piping does anyway..?..?
Uh.... I think so. If I understand your question correctly. I have been running the Z32 maf in the stock 4th gen position with no problems.
Old May 9, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelnyden
what is the difference between 4th gen and 5th gen stillen S/C kits?
does anyone know off the top of their heads..?
or should I just call stillen?
I insatlled a 5th gen kit that came off a 2001 on my 95 maxima a while back. The only difference is the piping thats about the only difference I saw. You can just buy both pipes from stillen and a blow off valve if you dont have one and that will do it.
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Originally Posted by michaelnyden
hey larrio, did I read this right? you have a technosquare ecu on your '01? were you the first for something? didn't know they actually had an ecu for the 00-01's...I know JWT doesn't....
had it for the past year, I was the test car.
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