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So Tilley threw in a full 2001 engine in my 1996 since mine was dead.....good results

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Old May 17, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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So Tilley threw in a full 2001 engine in my 1996 since mine was dead.....good results

Well after some 9 hours of working, Tilley got my full 2001 engine to run. It's only got 23,000 miles on it. It pretty much ran perfectly out of the box after Tilley fixed the IACV he fabbed up.
I started taking apart my old engine while Tilley was installing the new one, and learned how to take apart our engine. In pretty much every part of the engine we noticed a good amount of dirt/buildup. After we got the heads off I checked the valves and cylinder of #3 because it's the cylinder that lost compression. #3 didn't look any different than the others, however on the top of all cylinders there was a layer of carbon buildup. I decided to stop going any further after we broke the same tool 3 times...
So on the test drive I noticed the car had more low-end and top-end than my previous MEVI/JWT combo (still have the ECU). It feels like there's a good amount more top-end, and it feels great. My results pretty much confirm the dyno comparison someone did a while ago between the manifolds.

I'll have pics, vids, dyno, and track results coming soon. I haven't tried to spray yet however. I can't wait to dyno and get to the track. It's nice to have a car with all 6 cylinders working perfectly. I figure my car has somewhere around 250 crank HP now

On a side note....somehow during the swap something happened to my stereo (we did nothing in the cabin)...now only my rear speakers work, and the fronts and subs don't. My setup has been tinkered with since things keep breaking, and I think the HU is powering the front speakers, and the amp is doing the rears and subs, but I could be mistaken. I've messed with all the settings on the HU, but it doesn't change anything.
My brakes also feel very stiff, and when braking I actually got scared a few times driving home. The initial press of the pedal is stiff, and almost feels like it does when ABS is kicking in, and I felt like it didn't brake well at all. After the initial inch or so, it feels pretty normal, and stops more normally. When I hit the brakes at 80, it took longer than normal to bite down....sorry I can't describe it better.

Anyways....I've been up for 20 hours and have driven for 5 of them....I'm beat.
Big thanks to Tilley for putting so much time into my car and for working until 10 PM, and still giving me a great price. Not to mention actually doing the work and figuring all the little things out. He's a great guy to work with. I can't wait until I have to go back to him for some other reason, I'll be prepared

I'm sure I forgot some things....I'll add tomorrow....

DE-K's rule
Old May 18, 2005 | 04:30 AM
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sounds awesome man. I am definitely going for a swap down the road when i have the need and the money
Old May 18, 2005 | 04:43 AM
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IMO 3.5 is more worth it IMO (and you can use the 00 VI for its powerband if you want) but it's also more work. De-Ks rule though. Smoothest 3.0 ever. That dyno curve is super flat.
Old May 18, 2005 | 04:45 AM
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Im still beat from putting in 12hrs of work on that thing in 1 day. Oh well i will have too take it easy today. Thanks for the positive feedback maybe i can get some more work out of this.
Old May 18, 2005 | 05:03 AM
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to the genius who thought up a much less time consuming way to do the VQ35 swap, and without you I wouldn't even be able to use my VQ35 cams.
Old May 18, 2005 | 06:02 AM
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to the genius who thought up a much less time consuming way to do the VQ35 swap, and without you I wouldn't even be able to use my VQ35 cams.
Im branded nissan

Old May 18, 2005 | 06:39 AM
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Congrats on the new block. I hope you can figure out the other issues.
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Im branded nissan


Please tell me that's not a real tattoo!!
Old May 18, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TILLEYS99
Im branded nissan

Badass if thats real. Congrats on the new motor Rider! I wish you were closer Tilley I'd give up on this 3.0
Old May 18, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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Awesome, now I really can't wait till I move back to the east coast, and save enough money to get a 3.5 swap done over in Annville!!
Old May 18, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Can't wait for dynos and ET's ... Congrats!!
Old May 18, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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Please tell me that's not a real tattoo!!

oh its real.
Old May 18, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Congrats on the new engine, and great work Tilley if my engine goes or save up enough money I coming to you for that 3.5 swap. But I hope not for awhile cuz I just did put the 00VI on my car.
Old May 18, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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Tilley i've gotta say once i get out of college i'm going to have to take a road trip up to see you, with cheddar in hand
Old May 18, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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BTW, is the 2k swap a straight swap or it needs some tinkering like the 3.5?
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What are the going rates for DE-K and 3.5 swap.? man I've been away from this board too long
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It did need some tinkering, but not nearly what a 3.5 would need. Tilley fabbed up a new IACV, and had to do some things to the TB, but otherwise it was pretty standard.
Tilley found my engine with 23k for $700. He said 3.5's cost about 200-300 more, and the amount of labor involved is at least double.
Old May 18, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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That's the coolest gd tattoo i've ever seen! woot. my mom in japan buys me all kinds of nismo stuff, but a tattoo like that is freakin awesome!!
Old May 18, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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congrats man.
Old May 18, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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so with a 2000-2001 VQ30 engine, the 4th gen ECU will work with it?
Old May 18, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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Nice work gentlemen. I have had a chance to talk to Tilley and he is a real cool guy, if I ever wanted to do a swap he would be the man.
Old May 18, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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so with a 2000-2001 VQ30 engine, the 4th gen ECU will work with it?
yes htere are no porblems. i had this setup in my car minus the vi and i had no problems at all. my bro is running the complete swap in his 4th gen right now o na 98 ecu and no problems either.
Old May 18, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Nick, you gonna be at the lowering meet this weekend at Paul's house? I'd like to check the car out man.
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another satisfied customer ehh tilley

i swear if u knew how to do the swap back in october, i would have been a DE-K owner as well....now i am but its not the same

one of these days we need to have a big meet at tilley's shop where he can do small installs and people just chill.

oh yea tilley, i'm going to need another one of those dvd's. Someone stole mine
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So he sits there and gets sweaty and works his butt off while the rest of us just hang around and get drunk/eat? Sounds fun where do I sign up?



EDIT: BTW, Mecca got any pic's of the new ride?
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very nice. this would be the swap for me.....Nice smooth 3.0 . Nice work gentlemen
Old May 18, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
another satisfied customer ehh tilley

i swear if u knew how to do the swap back in october, i would have been a DE-K owner as well....now i am but its not the same

one of these days we need to have a big meet at tilley's shop where he can do small installs and people just chill.

oh yea tilley, i'm going to need another one of those dvd's. Someone stole mine
Sounds like a plan too me. Just need a date too do it. BTW mecca i have a new shop in the country with alot more room.
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Sounds like i'll fly back to NJ to come to that
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Got some pics uploaded....


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You can see the level of buildup on the inside. Also notice the buildup on top of the pistons.
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so what was the mileage on that engine?
Old May 18, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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so what was the mileage on that engine?
Second sentence, first paragraph.
Old May 18, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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So a complete 3.5 automatic swap would be $3.5k right or ?
Old May 18, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
yes htere are no porblems. i had this setup in my car minus the vi and i had no problems at all. my bro is running the complete swap in his 4th gen right now o na 98 ecu and no problems either.
VQ30DEK without the VI is just a VQ30DE.....

no point in swapping a 5th gen 3.0 motor if you're not going to put in the VI.
Old May 18, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by A33 VQ30DEK
VQ30DEK without the VI is just a VQ30DE.....

no point in swapping a 5th gen 3.0 motor if you're not going to put in the VI.
not thsi again. there are more thigns that set apart the vq30 from a 4th gen and a vq30 from a 5th gen then just the vi.
Old May 18, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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Someone should get bored enough to dyno a DEK w/ A32 USIM
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Originally Posted by TILLEYS99
Sounds like a plan too me. Just need a date too do it. BTW mecca i have a new shop in the country with alot more room.
nice! by any chance is it closer to NJ or further away

and pics will be coming soon nismo, just cleaned it today but didnt have time to snap some pics.
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mecca annville is like 2 hours from edison..... if not a little less, lookin forward to some pics
Old May 19, 2005 | 06:03 AM
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Hey Tilley. I hope you are going to be at the meet in Frederick. We are going to break some records. We lowered 2 cars in ~3.5 hours. These suspensions are cake to work on!
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hmmmmmmmmm.....



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