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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Matt Blehm Grounding Kit vs . . .

I was directed to Active Tuning by a fellow .org member for a grounding kit that he says worked well. Matt uses 8 gauge wiring while Active Tuning uses 4 guage which is obviously thicker and i assume therefore better overall?...they both use heat shrink tubing and active tuning comes with all the nuts and bolts and wire ties necessary. It comes with 4 wires and i was wondering how many matt's comes with because it just says that it varies on his website. Active Tuning also sells for $40 shipped while Matt's is $50 shipped. any input? Here are the two links:

http://www.mattblehm.com/engine.html

http://www.activetuning.com/products...I-MX-95GRNDKT/
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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mine came with zipties from Matt, no need for bolts as you reuse the stock bolts

great looking kit
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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I just recieved the Active tunning Kit. Quality look's good, only obstacle I see for myself is finding the proper grounding points because their site only shows instructions for a 4th Gen. I think I'm still going to order a kit from Matt. Does his kit come with a install right up?
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tinkerhead
Sorry for the misplaced post, but since I just joined, I can't post a new topic... Maybe someone can do so on my behalf?

Today, when I was leaving work, I noticed the headliner was a bit damp where it meets the passenger side A-pillar. I suspect it is the leaking hose problem described and illustrated in a post in the 4th Gen forum, but I would like a little more information on how to remove the headliner before I screw something up. Anyone out there have the service manual or just the experience in removing the headliner?
Hijacking someone else's thread is not the way to go about posting your problems. There are reasons why you cannot post a new topic, your actions above are one of the reasons. You should check the stickies for help in the How To threads first. You can download service manuals if you search a little harder.
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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installed blehmco's kit a month ago

comes with 4 wires, detailed instructions included.(i have 2k2 se) zipties included. like jeepik said... no bolts needed, u can use the stock bolts. great kit.
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by brettb
Hijacking someone else's thread is not the way to go about posting your problems. There are reasons why you cannot post a new topic, your actions above are one of the reasons. You should check the stickies for help in the How To threads first. You can download service manuals if you search a little harder.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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anyone got pics of the grounding points on a 5.5 gen?
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tinkerhead
Yes, and I totally understand the anti-spamming reasons. But, for someone like me with a real problem, it is kind of a bummer... Oh, and "hijacking" a thread was the only way I could voice my issue, so that sort of negates your point of it being a "reason why (I) cannot post a new topic".

For the record, I did dig around the site a lot; in fact I found a similar topic in the 4th gen forum http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=388323 Posted my problem there, and within minutes, a friendly (hint hint) member by the nick of "maxgtr2000" (who has about 80 more posts than you) helped me out, gave me some pointers, steps to follow, etc. Previous to this, I thought that it would be more appropriate for me to put it in the correct generation forum, hence my 'no new post' issue.

I did find what you were talking about, in the how to section, and after a few dead links, I finally found a site that sells manuals, but none that were available to download.

So, thanks for making me feel unwelcome. I hope you enjoyed your little "newbie hazing" ritual. I see someone else saw the humor in it, but others just ignored it all together.

I'm sure you don't care, but this isn't my first time on a vehicle enthusiast website, I own two other vehicles, both of which have similar sites, both of which I am a member of. Also, oddly enough, the members of those communities have never made newbie stabs as you have. I suppose they understand the meaning of community? Hmmm...
First - the number of posts someone in the 4th gen forum has compared to brettb is irrelevant to anything Regardless of how many forums you've been on, etc etc, being an @ss to members who have been around a while is not going to get you much goodwill. Brettb was completely correct and on-target with what he said. Period.

Second - hijacking a totally unrelated thread is ridiculous. It's like seeing two random people on the street corner talking about something and then just butting in and interrupting them to say something totally unrelated. Would you do that to someone you didn't know (or did know)? I doubt it. Rules of courtesy generally accepted in society apply here as well.

Third - If you had indeed read the stickies, you would have learned how to do a "ghetto" google search of the org. Even though I (as a donating member) can search here, I decided to try out the google search using "sunroof leak" as the keywords.

here's how to do a google search of the org:

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...35&postcount=1

So, I may sound like a jerk here, but to prove I'm not, here are the links I found using the ghetto-google search (that you could also use). As you can see, there are plenty of them.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....t=sunroof+leak

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....t=sunroof+leak

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....t=sunroof+leak

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....t=sunroof+leak

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....t=sunroof+leak

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....t=sunroof+leak

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....t=sunroof+leak

Fourth: The org rules are here for a reason. If you don't feel like following them, then I'm sure we can find a moderator to ban you. Nobody's gonna "tattle" on you, but you need to 1) admit you are in the wrong here and 2) be more polite in the future and 3) don't hijack threads like this anymore.

So...you have your answers in the threads above. Consider this a mulligan. Next time it will result in a ban, I have no doubt. You were rude to whoever started this thread, so you should expect people to be upset at you as a result.
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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Now to the original question, Kruppa (sorry for the digression)

1. The wire gauge won't matter. Remember, the ground wires are not carrying current, they are just offsetting the live wire current (basically)....All you really need is ground wires as big as the live wires. In this case, 8-10 gauge is more than sufficient (and easier to work with and place). 4 gauge is overkill unless you want them to show up as a visual "mod," or unless you are rigging up some high-power audio stuff.

2. The blehm kit comes with 4 wires, i think. From what I've heard, they are put together very nicely, and I'm sure Matt provides mounting points.

3. Mounting points are pretty easy to find. There are alot of threads on here talking about the "home-made" hyperground that show the points for the 3.5. My cardomain page has a how-to on the homemade hyperground on the 3.0 (I used 7 or 8 points as I recall)....the points on the 3.5 are similar in location (I have made a couple for 3.5's as well, so I know).

You could also make your own setup for around $20 in materials, which works just as well (though isn't quite as "bling").
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
Now to the original question, Kruppa (sorry for the digression)

1. The wire gauge won't matter. Remember, the ground wires are not carrying current, they are just offsetting the live wire current (basically)....All you really need is ground wires as big as the live wires. In this case, 8-10 gauge is more than sufficient (and easier to work with and place). 4 gauge is overkill unless you want them to show up as a visual "mod," or unless you are rigging up some high-power audio stuff.

2. The blehm kit comes with 4 wires, i think. From what I've heard, they are put together very nicely, and I'm sure Matt provides mounting points.

3. Mounting points are pretty easy to find. There are alot of threads on here talking about the "home-made" hyperground that show the points for the 3.5. My cardomain page has a how-to on the homemade hyperground on the 3.0 (I used 7 or 8 points as I recall)....the points on the 3.5 are similar in location (I have made a couple for 3.5's as well, so I know).

You could also make your own setup for around $20 in materials, which works just as well (though isn't quite as "bling").
Thank you for all of the information...a big help as always...but why did you decide to use 7 or 8 points if the kit only includes 4 wires (unless you mean one contact point for each end of each wire in which case i'm stupid and should just realize that you don't mean more connections in total than the blehmco kit)

The reason I was comparing it with Active Tuning is because my friend at work has it and the website said that 95-01 is the same kit and connecting points because it's the same engine and he showed me today at work that I would have the same connections in the same place with the kit (4 wires as described on website) I'm confused because Matt's website has two different kits for 4th and 5th gens. Both kits are of good quality, so I guess it's a toss up so far from what i've heard because blehmco is popular here and active tuning is cheaper but same quality and amount included...and i'm too lazy to go get my own stuff haha...i like plug and play installs.
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tinkerhead
Brettb was rude to a newcomer, not a great way to build interest. How bout a link to a newcomer tutorial or something? On a site without search capability, without the ability to start a new thread, I had little choice. It seems security has robbed this site of functionality to visitors or newcomers. It sucks, but it's internet life, like I said, I can see why you need the rules. I think the forum is a great tool, and with "ghetto-google", perhaps I can find what I need.

To sum it up, I love my Maxima, and this place is obviously the place to be for all things concerning it. I'll continue to read and post, and one day I'll leave my Newbie status behind and all this will have been for nothing...well, almost nothing...I've chalked up 3 posts towards leaving my Newbie level!
I apologize if you think I came off as being rude. I was simply stating that you should not have randomly chosen a thread to ask your question about a problem you are having, that was rude. Like me, I hope you enjoy what the org can give you.
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
Now to the original question, Kruppa (sorry for the digression)

1. The wire gauge won't matter. Remember, the ground wires are not carrying current, they are just offsetting the live wire current (basically)....All you really need is ground wires as big as the live wires. In this case, 8-10 gauge is more than sufficient (and easier to work with and place). 4 gauge is overkill unless you want them to show up as a visual "mod," or unless you are rigging up some high-power audio stuff.

2. The blehm kit comes with 4 wires, i think. From what I've heard, they are put together very nicely, and I'm sure Matt provides mounting points.

3. Mounting points are pretty easy to find. There are alot of threads on here talking about the "home-made" hyperground that show the points for the 3.5. My cardomain page has a how-to on the homemade hyperground on the 3.0 (I used 7 or 8 points as I recall)....the points on the 3.5 are similar in location (I have made a couple for 3.5's as well, so I know).

You could also make your own setup for around $20 in materials, which works just as well (though isn't quite as "bling").
Anyways getting back to the real thread so people don't stop reading this one I started because of the random talk in between...

Thank you for all of the information...a big help as always...but why did you decide to use 7 or 8 points if the kit only includes 4 wires (unless you mean one contact point for each end of each wire in which case i'm stupid and should just realize that you don't mean more connections in total than the blehmco kit)

The reason I was comparing it with Active Tuning is because my friend at work has it and the website said that 95-01 is the same kit and connecting points because it's the same engine and he showed me today at work that I would have the same connections in the same place with the kit (4 wires as described on website) I'm confused because Matt's website has two different kits for 4th and 5th gens. Both kits are of good quality, so I guess it's a toss up so far from what i've heard because blehmco is popular here and active tuning is cheaper but same quality and amount included...and i'm too lazy to go get my own stuff haha...i like plug and play installs.
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 03:21 AM
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Could somebody check out the install page Active Tuning has on their website for their model of grounding kit designed specifically for the 95-01 Maxima. I just want to make sure that somebody with a 5th gen has the same four grounding points that the link below gives. I'm still confused as to how Matt Blehm has 2 different kits for 4th and 5th gens while this site says it's the same which is what i would figure because it's basically the same engine setup...

http://www.activetuning.com/products...stallation.php
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:23 AM
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Here are some links

2000-2001 points
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/442543/16

2002-2003 points
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/313259/10

More reading info
http://www.tprmag.com/issue/8/8_elec_stab.shtml
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread...t=Hyper+grounds
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread...t=Hyper+grounds
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread...t=Hyper+grounds
http://www.caraudioforum.com/showth...highlight=magic

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread...highlight=magic
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:29 AM
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I looked at Irish's site earlier and it's a very good writeup but at the bottom he notes that there are several different setups and none of them can be considered the right one. I'm assuming since the Active Tuning one comes with 4 wires, as does Matt's for the 5th gen, they must have the same grounding points even though Active Tuning claims that the 95-01 kit is the same as opposed to Matt who has a different kit for each generation.

Irish...did you get new bolts for the connections or did you re-use the stock ones...It seems to me that if you got new ones, the connection might be that much better but i'm not sure?
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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For those of you who order Matts kit, how did you pay? Do you just pay through paypal and its sent?
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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kruppa we should get some poeple together and ground all our maximas I need to get that done.
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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very useful info in this thread...thank you all
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