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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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Price seems high...

My girlfriend is looking at a 99 SE-Limited, the guy is asking for $8995 (it's a dealer). Silver, with black leather, 5spd, it does misfire above 4000rpm but I figure that is just coilpacks and it's getting taken to the stealership to find anything and everything possibly wrong with it(i know how good they are at it). Price seems kinda high to me, has around 110k on it I think too. Any ideas?
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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I don't know US prices, but the mileage seems high to me. I would be inclined to look for a loaded 97 or 98 with fewer miles than that.
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Mileage is average... Price is the same. Try and get it lower of course.

And try www.kbb.com and www.nada.com before asking us to tell you, when you could do it on your own ...

Seems strange to me that a dealership would let anyone look at a car that mis-fires.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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Thats about how much you would find it on the lots here, I just got a 97 with 99k and all the same specs as that one for the same price. I did get mine from Carmax and a car this old and these many miles on it would only be sold on their lot if it was in great condition so make sure you do get a good check on its condition.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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And try www.kbb.com and www.nada.com before asking us to tell you, when you could do it on your own ...

Seems strange to me that a dealership would let anyone look at a car that mis-fires.
Yeah I know wth kbb and nada is... I know it lists for around 10k in my area, but it's a matter of what I know is wrong with it already. Not to mention everytime I see people talk about what seems an average price to me others chime in and say the price is too high. It's from a used car dealer, not a stealership, and he JUST got the car. I know coilpacks go bad in the 99s anyway, but to ease my mind it will go to a stealership to find anything else that may be wrong.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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I wouldn't get a 99 personally ... I like to have ease of revving high (6.5k+) no coil problems, easily read ECU codes and simple KS changes ...

I was jsut suggesting what I would've done if I was you. If people in another state said it was too high, are you going to move or travel and buy it there, because you cannot go to the used car dealer and tell him well it goes for this price in this state .. he'll look at you like you're a
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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I figure it's a good deal so long as everything else is in good condition on it and I can get the guy to throw in some new coilpacks, I doubt this will get anything beyond some ricey mods >_> (her car not mine).
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her silly if she does mods ..
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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oh i'll be very tempted... first thing I'll do is show her this magic thing called a y-pipe maybe that will get her on the right track. lol
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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I say go for it, get the coil packs and anything else fixed and pick it up.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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I think the price is too high. I got a Maxima from a dealer, 1998 69k miles when i bought it, flawless running condition. Only big differnce that might matter in price is that mine was an auto , other then that its same silver, black leather. I payed same price as this used car guy is asking you for, but my car only had 69k miles on it, and no problems with it. So if u ask me I dont think a maxima with 110k miles is worth 9k.
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Originally Posted by Amarao
My girlfriend is looking at a 99 SE-Limited, the guy is asking for $8995 (it's a dealer). Silver, with black leather, 5spd, it does misfire above 4000rpm but I figure that is just coilpacks and it's getting taken to the stealership to find anything and everything possibly wrong with it(i know how good they are at it). Price seems kinda high to me, has around 110k on it I think too. Any ideas?
In the words from the immortal movie, "Used Cars,"

That's too f*** high!!

Bought a 1998 I30 automatic with 117k from an Infiniti Dealer for $5,495. It is in pristine condition, inside and out, and runs like a demon
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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See, it's posts like that that make me wonder if I'm looking in the wrong place or what...
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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I just bought a loaded 1999 Infiniti I30t with 74k miles for $9995 in perfect condition, so $8995 for a 1999 Max SE with issues and high mileage, sounds pretty high to me.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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That's a really good price for a 98 I30 ... Either spend more time looking for the "right" deal, or pay 7.5k for it .. There will always be a better deal out there, trust me, it will probably show up a week or 2 after you buy it
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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<Smarta$$ Mode On>
I have a 1995 GXE with only 150k I'll sell you for only $7995!
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If you really want it, use the problems to negotiate it way down. Pick what you feel is a good price, make an offer and stand firm. The worst thing the dealer will do is not meet your price. BTW: If the dealer does a "Well I paid more than that for the car in trade", remember that dealers will sometimes boost the trade offering instead of dropping the price of the new car.

The dealer only sets the asking price. The value of a car is only what someone is willing to pay for it.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by robsst
If you really want it, use the problems to negotiate it way down. Pick what you feel is a good price, make an offer and stand firm. The worst thing the dealer will do is not meet your price. BTW: If the dealer does a "Well I paid more than that for the car in trade", remember that dealers will sometimes boost the trade offering instead of dropping the price of the new car.
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The dealer only sets the asking price. The value of a car is only what someone is willing to pay for it.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Some 's are cool.

THANKS NmexMAX!
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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That's high mileage for a 99. Not too much but based on the standard of 12k miles a yr. The dealer is probably tacking on another grand over the value of the car.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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That's high mileage for a 99. Not too much but based on the standard of 12k miles a yr. The dealer is probably tacking on another grand over the value of the car.
But we all have different terms of "standard mileage" I thoguht it was 15k .. Doesn't matter since I've I put double that on my 95 .. so

The summed it all up very nicely ...
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Well it's going to the stealership tomorrow at 10am, and if everything checks out ok and I can either get him to give me the new coilpacks, or drop the price so i can buy the coilpacks it will be a done deal. Any tard with a metric socket set and allen set can change coilpacks. I figure I might get a better deal if I tell him I'll install them myself. 3 maximas at this house wth? lol
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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The standard used to be 12K, but I believe it has gone to 15K. What are most new car warranties based on? That should be the new standard. Even calling the 1999 in question 7 years old (which it isn't) that would only translate to 105K and it has 110K on it.

I guess my 5,500 miles/year is a tad low!
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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The standard used to be 12K, but I believe it has gone to 15K. What are most new car warranties based on? That should be the new standard. Even calling the 1999 in question 7 years old (which it isn't) that would only translate to 105K and it has 110K on it.

I guess my 5,500 miles/year is a tad low!

The new warranties are based on 10k-12k miles a yr.

Amarao-

When you buy a car, you're supposed to be getting a car in good running condition. You shouldn't have to replace the coils after you buy it. Once you guys settle on a price, the dealer is supposed to deliver the car in proper running order. And what if it's not the coil packs? Diagnosing the problem should be first. Make sure the car has no farken probs, then buy it if you like it.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Automagic
When you buy a car, you're supposed to be getting a car in good running condition. You shouldn't have to replace the coils after you buy it. Once you guys settle on a price, the dealer is supposed to deliver the car in proper running order. And what if it's not the coil packs? Diagnosing the problem should be first. Make sure the car has no farken probs, then buy it if you like it.
Like I said, it's going to the stealership to get looked over, the guy selling it is in no way affiliated with Nissan.

NmexMax - I've put an average of 27,100miles on my car every year
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Fucc the dealers rip off price... I would not pay more than $7000 for that car (assuming it is in good shape, they misfires should be easy to resolve).

How can the dealer justify selling for $9000?? I know they claim to do a full 'inspection' and 'service' the vehicle so it is ready for resale, but the thing misfires! That tells me they (like most dealers) have not even touched it (maybe an oil change at best).

There is a ''97 Maxima SE 5spd, fully loaded, 76k, black, exc. cond., for $7400 (720-935-7453)'' in the Denver Post right now. I would get that guy down to a solid $7000 even and then take it!!
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I still say thats way too much for 110k miles, and a car thats not even in perfect condition.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by i30ds
There is a ''97 Maxima SE 5spd, fully loaded, black, exc. cond., for $7400 (720-935-7453)'' in the Denver Post right now. I would get that guy down to a solid $7000 even and then take it!!

Calling this guy now...
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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That 97SE sounds like a good car, depending on the mileage. It would be sweet if it had under 100K on it and wasn't winter driven much.
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gotta love it when you're about to buy something and them someone goes, hey you wanna save like $1000?? hands over this coupon...heh...yea. i'm glad you're thinking about something else. for almost $10,000, there are alot of options out there besides a max. i got my 98 i30 with 78k in jan for $6500. oh, i have about 98k right now..-= )
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Originally Posted by ImmaSquashYou
gotta love it when you're about to buy something and them someone goes, hey you wanna save like $1000?? hands over this coupon...heh...yea. i'm glad you're thinking about something else. for almost $10,000, there are alot of options out there besides a max. i got my 98 i30 with 78k in jan for $6500. oh, i have about 98k right now..-= )
That's what I'm talkin' about!

With all the money we saved, we can actually afford to fill the tank now and then!!
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Originally Posted by Bobo
That 97SE sounds like a good car, depending on the mileage. It would be sweet if it had under 100K on it and wasn't winter driven much.
I forgot to add the 97 only has 76k on it!!!
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Originally Posted by Amarao
Calling this guy now...
Let us know how it goes.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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you think a

95 maxima gle
clean title
no accident
68,000 mileage

for 4,000 is a good price?
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Amarao
Well it's going to the stealership tomorrow at 10am, and if everything checks out ok and I can either get him to give me the new coilpacks, or drop the price so i can buy the coilpacks it will be a done deal. Any tard with a metric socket set and allen set can change coilpacks. I figure I might get a better deal if I tell him I'll install them myself. 3 maximas at this house wth? lol
Doh! I just thought of something you may want to think about....

The dealer knows that he can't get nearly as much for a car with a bum engine as he could for a car with a good engine. And, I would bet he has professional mechanics working for him.

So, why hasn't he done such an easy cheap fix before putting the car on the lot? I would suspect that the problem is much more serious then just the coil packs.

Just my additional $.02...
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Originally Posted by zzmasta06
you think a

95 maxima gle
clean title
no accident
68,000 mileage

for 4,000 is a good price?

Seems pretty good to me. 68K is nothing in the scheme of things. I have just under 60K on my 95SE and its still like new and I paid Cdn$35K for it brand new.
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I forgot to add the 97 only has 76k on it!!!
At that mileage I doubt that car was driven much in winter, I would be all over it like white on rice if I were in the market for a 4th Gen and it looked clean and hadn't been smucked before!
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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I used to sell cars and its simple. Look at kbb.com and see what wholesale cost is on that car.

Subtract anywhere from 500 to 1000 dollars from that, and this is what the stealership pays.

Rule of thumb, no stealership pays over wholesale, never seen it done. Usually 500 back of book.

The average markup on a vehicle is 4000 from wholesale.

As a salesman, you make more money on the used car than the new car, more markup=more profit=bigger commission.
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Originally Posted by Amarao
My girlfriend is looking at a 99 SE-Limited, the guy is asking for $8995 (it's a dealer). Silver, with black leather, 5spd, it does misfire above 4000rpm but I figure that is just coilpacks and it's getting taken to the stealership to find anything and everything possibly wrong with it(i know how good they are at it). Price seems kinda high to me, has around 110k on it I think too. Any ideas?
Looks like nobody mentioned that it's a SE-Limited. Maybe that's why the dealer is asking for so much.
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Originally Posted by DragonMaxima
Looks like nobody mentioned that it's a SE-Limited. Maybe that's why the dealer is asking for so much.
So what if its an sel??



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