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Old May 23, 2001 | 11:40 AM
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i was looking at the 5th gen forum and they had this thread posted too but only applied to the 5th gen....so i was thinking wat about the 4th gen?

*2000 (and some 2001) Model Year Cars
** Maxima SE 5 speed.

ACURA

Acura TL Type S

Acura TL 3.2

Acura Integra GSR, GS, LS

AUDI

TT 1.8 T w/5 Speed Manual

A4

A8 quattro

BMW

328 Ci

328 Sport

528i

750 iL

X5 3.0

Z3

BUICK

All models

CHEVROLET

Impala LS

Impala

Monte Carlo SS

Monte Carlo

Lumina

Malibu

CHRYSLER

300M

PT Cruiser

LH

Concorde

DODGE

Intrepid RT

Intrepid

Neon

Stratus RT

Stratus

Avenger

FORD

Focus

Mustang V6

Taurus

Crown Victoria

HONDA

Accord

Civic Si

Civic

Prelude

Insight

HYUNDAI

All Models including 01 XG300

INFINITI

I30

Q45 (2000 Model)

G20

JAGUAR

S type

KIA

All Models including 01 Optima

LEXUS

ES300

GS300

IS300

LINCOLN

LS V8

LS

Town Car

MAZDA

626

Protege

Millenia

Miata

MERCEDES BENZ

C230K

E320

SLK

MITSUBISHI

All models including 00 Eclipse GT

NISSAN

Altima

Sentra

OLDSMOBILE

All models including 01 Aurora

PLYMOUTH

All models except Prowler

PONTIAC

Bonneville SSEi

Grand Am GT

Grand Am

Grand Prix GTP

Grand Prix

SAAB

9-3 not including Viggen

9-5 not including Aero

SATURN

All Models

SUBARU

All models except 01-02 Impreza WRX

TOYOTA

Camry

Camry Solara

Celica GTS

Celica

Corolla

Echo

MR2 Spyder

Avalon

VOLKSWAGON

All models including 01 Passat 4 Motion

VOLVO

C70 Convertible

S80 T6

S80

V40

V70


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Old May 23, 2001 | 01:02 PM
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Dont forget the Geo Metro!
Old May 23, 2001 | 01:32 PM
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S80 TT

I know that the S80 TT does zero to 60 in high 6's and runs the quarter in low 15's. A stock 4th gen Max can probably beat it in the quarter but I don't think the Max would win every race.
Old May 23, 2001 | 06:24 PM
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thats a long but useful thread

i will have to print it up and take it with me on road trips. That way i can put check marks down the list. I am gonna be the first person to beat all these cars.

OK seriously though, are the maximas faster than the Grand Prix GTP? They are at least really close arent they. And heres something else that bothers me, i believe it to be road and track but not sure, i hate them, they list the maxima as running something like 8.2 and have some saturn, LS2?, running 7.8...

not sure which mag it is but i know that it lists the times in the back of the mag on a beigish paper color.
Old May 24, 2001 | 12:06 AM
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well, what will an auto 98 GXE beat?
Old May 24, 2001 | 05:00 AM
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Re: thats a long but useful thread

Originally posted by Justin95SE

OK seriously though, are the maximas faster than the Grand Prix GTP? They are at least really close arent they. And heres something else that bothers me, i believe it to be road and track but not sure, i hate them, they list the maxima as running something like 8.2 and have some saturn, LS2?, running 7.8...
There was someone on the board the beat a GP GTP. He did say the GTP beat him also. A GT can definitely be beaten.

As for the magazines, I always go with the quickest times. The are such things called as "Human Errors" and maybe Road and Track has a lot of them.
Old May 24, 2001 | 06:29 AM
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Re: thats a long but useful thread

Originally posted by Justin95SE
i will have to print it up and take it with me on road trips. That way i can put check marks down the list. I am gonna be the first person to beat all these cars.

OK seriously though, are the maximas faster than the Grand Prix GTP? They are at least really close arent they. And heres something else that bothers me, i believe it to be road and track but not sure, i hate them, they list the maxima as running something like 8.2 and have some saturn, LS2?, running 7.8...

not sure which mag it is but i know that it lists the times in the back of the mag on a beigish paper color.
that's because they always like to test the maxima as an auto. and that makes it look slow compared to the other cars they test as manual.
Old May 24, 2001 | 06:45 AM
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Re: Re: thats a long but useful thread

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that's because they always like to test the maxima as an auto. and that makes it look slow compared to the other cars they test as manual.
Yeah but the auto Max's I have seen in other mags claim 0 to 60 times in the mid 7 secs range and the manual a second faster. To me 8 secs are crazy.
Old May 29, 2001 | 06:56 PM
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wat can 4th gen maxima's beat?

anyone wanna answer this question?
Old May 29, 2001 | 09:55 PM
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Deezo that was me

That was me that has beaten, and got beaten by, a GTP. Same result both times, just reversed. My front bumper was even with his rear when he beat me, and the time I won my rear bumper was even with or a few feet in front of his front bumper. The races were both from lights, to probably 70 mph or so.

And as far as which cars can we beat? Do you REALLY want someone to go through ALL those cars and say yes, no or maybe? Please man. If you really want to know look up maxima times and then look up the times for those cars and that will give you a pretty good idea.
Old May 30, 2001 | 10:57 AM
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Auto

Correct me if I'm wrong but I have yet to see a GTP that isn't auto. That's a plus...
Old May 30, 2001 | 12:13 PM
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MadMax95, you are correct.

You can not buy a GP GTP in a 5-speed, the automatic trans is standard equipment. That is one reason I bought the Max over the GTP. I don't know why GM doesn't offer these in manual, with 240 HP and 280 ft-lbs a 5-speed would haul a$$.
Old May 30, 2001 | 03:14 PM
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Does anyone know how a 5-spd max holds up against a GTI vr6 (5-spd)?
Old May 30, 2001 | 03:43 PM
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I've beaten a GTP, as well as the Buick Regal (I think that's the name) GS Supercharged. Both races I had multiple runs with the cars, beat them both by about a length (GTP I was stock, Regal GS I had CAI only). Good races, but got them off the line and kept them back, pulling slightly. I've eaten VR6's easily, stock. They weigh about the same as the Maxima, but only have ~175hp. Not fast engines. Also with the CAI and Y-Pipe I took a Volvo C70 (5spd coupe) twice in a row. I was pretty stoked after that one...
Old May 30, 2001 | 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Slim
Also with the CAI and Y-Pipe I took a Volvo C70 (5spd coupe) twice in a row. I was pretty stoked after that one...
That's surprising.
Old May 30, 2001 | 06:47 PM
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Can a maxima beat a 67 camaro ?
Old May 30, 2001 | 08:16 PM
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camaro

there are ALOT of different engine options on a 67 camaro... anything from a 6 cyl wuss powerplant to a 427, probably 454 camaros around too. might wanna get a bit more specific about the engine.
Old May 31, 2001 | 02:35 AM
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Not very likely

Originally posted by cRedrum
Can a maxima beat a 67 camaro ?
Most camaros of the muscle car era will smoke a max. Consider the fact that they weigh about the same with a V8. And most camaros that are willing to race are built. If hes stock running on the original polly-glass tires you'll take him, but I dont know alot of people with concorse cars that wanna race them. Its very easy and pretty cheap to pull over 350 horses out of a chevy small block V8, not to mention the torque so if hes at the races hes easily pulling these numbers. If your supercharged or NOS'd you might have a chance. Then again if hes blown or Nos'd...
Old May 31, 2001 | 07:39 AM
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from what I recall

The GTP is Auto because of the gearing. It was built as a low end tourque provider with long rods, not a high end ricer. Our VQ's have a good mixture of low end tourqe and high end HP. In general the GTP is a faster 1/4 mile car, but drivers are what win races. If you get a good launch on a GTP, you can walk him in a the 1/4 mile. If he gets a lead on you, stay with it into the 100s and you'll finally take him. I raced one a few months ago, but we stayed dead even up to 70MPH. I'm confident that a prolonged race into the 100's would have given me the advantage.

VR6 is nothing. I still don't understand why people fear this.
Old Jun 10, 2001 | 08:07 AM
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Actually i think the Pontiac GTP and the Buick Regal GS would be reasonably good matches for a Maxima 5sp.... Motortrend got the GS 0-60 in 6.6 and the GTP in 6.6 and 6.8.... you guys should check out the Grand Prix G8 concept... hoods got 2 ugly scoops... but with a 350hp V8 and AWD.... aint nobodi gona be seein the front haha...

A base GT or Regal probably could match a Auto Maxima...
and another thing... haha a Pontiac Sunfire GT was tested by MT at 7.9 for 0-60.... that sux for auto maximas... =)
Old Jun 10, 2001 | 08:19 AM
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Okay...From what I understand, that list is of the cars a 2000 Maxima SE 5-spd can beat. There are a few cars that should not be on there. Acura Type-S, and a 750 BMW??? What the f*ck? Last I checked a stock 6 Cylinder Maxima isn't going to hang with a V12.
Old Jun 10, 2001 | 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by YamahaRyder
Okay...From what I understand, that list is of the cars a 2000 Maxima SE 5-spd can beat. There are a few cars that should not be on there. Acura Type-S, and a 750 BMW??? What the f*ck? Last I checked a stock 6 Cylinder Maxima isn't going to hang with a V12.
Yes, I agree. Even though Motor Trend tested a 750iL at 7.3 seconds to 60, it would rip us up like nobody's business. They must have made a mistake or something, b/c I've seen times for it that were 6 flat. Also, I've driven one before(it was a 97) and it was so ridiculously fast I was laughing. Sorry, but don't go mess with one, you will be in the dust. The Max isn't even close. Go after a 740 instead, you'll probably take him to 60, but after that it will mow you down.
Old Jun 17, 2001 | 05:57 AM
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Originally posted by MaxedOut97SE


Yes, I agree. Even though Motor Trend tested a 750iL at 7.3 seconds to 60...
I hate all magazine 0-60 and 1/4 miles times. While they give you a good idea of a car's potential, it is inappropriate to compare all the times of all the cars they have tested. Weather, barometric pressure, and stock components change too much in cars to simply say "MT tested this car at a # and this car at #+, so car one is faster."

The 750's that I've been able to goose into a race seem much faster than 7.3.

I'm not sure about stock for stock IS300 against the Max. I think the IS300 is a faster car. I haven't gotten to race one off the line yet, but I did race one from 70-110 last weekend while I was driving down to Florida for vacation. Granted, I had an auto, my GF asleep in the car, and about 150lb's of lugage, but he pulled 4 cars on me and kept pulling before I shut down.
Old Jun 17, 2001 | 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by LoveMyMaximA
i was looking at the 5th gen forum and they had this thread posted too but only applied to the 5th gen....so i was thinking wat about the 4th gen?

*2000 (and some 2001) Model Year Cars
** Maxima SE 5 speed.

ACURA

Acura TL Type S

Acura TL 3.2

Acura Integra GSR, GS, LS

AUDI

TT 1.8 T w/5 Speed Manual

A4

A8 quattro

BMW

328 Ci

328 Sport

528i

750 iL

X5 3.0

Z3

BUICK

All models

CHEVROLET

Impala LS

Impala

Monte Carlo SS

Monte Carlo

Lumina

Malibu

CHRYSLER

300M

PT Cruiser

LH

Concorde

DODGE

Intrepid RT

Intrepid

Neon

Stratus RT

Stratus

Avenger

FORD

Focus

Mustang V6

Taurus

Crown Victoria

HONDA

Accord

Civic Si

Civic

Prelude

Insight

HYUNDAI

All Models including 01 XG300

INFINITI

I30

Q45 (2000 Model)

G20

JAGUAR

S type

KIA

All Models including 01 Optima

LEXUS

ES300

GS300

IS300

LINCOLN

LS V8

LS

Town Car

MAZDA

626

Protege

Millenia

Miata

MERCEDES BENZ

C230K

E320

SLK

MITSUBISHI

All models including 00 Eclipse GT

NISSAN

Altima

Sentra

OLDSMOBILE

All models including 01 Aurora

PLYMOUTH

All models except Prowler

PONTIAC

Bonneville SSEi

Grand Am GT

Grand Am

Grand Prix GTP

Grand Prix

SAAB

9-3 not including Viggen

9-5 not including Aero

SATURN

All Models

SUBARU

All models except 01-02 Impreza WRX

TOYOTA

Camry

Camry Solara

Celica GTS

Celica

Corolla

Echo

MR2 Spyder

Avalon

VOLKSWAGON

All models including 01 Passat 4 Motion

VOLVO

C70 Convertible

S80 T6

S80

V40

V70


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I'd like to see you beat some of these cars, you must be running a special edition 400hp max
Old Jun 19, 2001 | 02:04 PM
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I think this thread goes a long way in proving that some Maxima owners do in fact smoke crack. That list of cars picks and chooses the most random list of cars to street race I have ever seen. The Honda Insight? Come on that car has 1/3 your displacement and half as many cylinders. Its designed to get 3X the gas mileage your beloved Maxima running regular. If you want the list to look more impressive you should throw in some minivans and maybe a couple of diesel work trucks.

If list is supposed to include cars the Maxima can beat only in certain circumstances like the other guy's not paying attention why not throw in some Z28's or Corvettes because that's what its going to take if you plan on running 750iL's or even the Acura TL Type S. They've run numbers as much as 2 seconds faster than auto Maximas and 1 second faster than some manual tests(That's usually a sign that the car will be faster on the street).

I know what a Maxima can and cannot run and about half that list is pointless while the rest are questionable at best.
Old Jun 19, 2001 | 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Justin95SE


OK seriously though, are the maximas faster than the Grand Prix GTP? They are at least really close arent they. And heres something else that bothers me, i believe it to be road and track but not sure, i hate them, they list the maxima as running something like 8.2 and have some saturn, LS2?, running 7.8...

I beat a GTP before ... from start I had a very good start and we raced to 70-80 and we gave up cuz of trafic ... i got a good half a car in front and then at about 60 he started catching up then we staoped ....
Old Jun 19, 2001 | 07:07 PM
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GTP...

I beat a GTP before ... from start I had a very good start and we raced to 70-80 and we gave up cuz of trafic ... i got a good half a car in front and then at about 60 he started catching up then we staoped ....
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