5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003) Learn more about the 5th Generation Maxima, including the VQ30DE-K and VQ35DE engines.

Which year of the 5th Gen Maxima is THE best? (Looking to buy)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:32 AM
  #1  
eturnl
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Which year of the 5th Gen Maxima is THE best? (Looking to buy)

Hey fellas,
Im a 4th gen max owner and im looking to purchase a 5th gen. I did some research on the forums and found a few mechanical issues with the 5th gen. maninly the 00-01. (rather disappointing) Im very very interested in the 01 AE. What a smooth MAX I espically love the bodykit, LSD, and muffler and AE asthetics! (I cant remember, does the 01 AE have the 3.5vq?) However I LOVE the 6-speed on the 03. And I definatly want the 3.5vq.

I want to know what you 5th gen'ers think: What 5th gen max is the best to own!?
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:47 AM
  #2  
Out-of-Focus's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
I would go with a 2003 SE 6-spd.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 03:26 AM
  #3  
mingo's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 6,541
From: Bay Area, CA
no the 01's do not come with a 3.5

personally i'de recomend a 2k2 or 2k3, alot of nice new touches done to the interior, and it's got the bigger 3.5 mated with a 6speed
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 04:03 AM
  #4  
Ammi's Avatar
350 Detroit Muscle
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 8,513
another battle of 5 gen vs 5.5 gen. There are advantages and disadvantages for both generations
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 06:54 AM
  #5  
chr0nos's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 913
well, there is a reason they changed it to the 5.5 gen. generally manufacturers improve their cars, as year go by. i would say the 5.5 gen improved by a wide margin ower the 5th gen. then again, to each his own, i am not flaming any1.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 06:58 AM
  #6  
MaxBoost925's Avatar
Drug Money
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,449
From: USA
Go 5th gen 5-speed, 3.0 VQ is one of the smoothest motors. 5.5 gen 3.5 VQ has oil burnoff, but then, it has a 6-speed.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:05 AM
  #7  
UGAd13's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,861
From: Atlanta
As DMX would say, "Here we go again." Everyone on here is going to be biased towards their year. Drive both around and see which one you like better. I personaly would pick the '03, seeing that I have an '03 and love it.

side note: what the he!! is this--> I'm not that big of an internet nerd to know what it is.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:05 AM
  #8  
00Max00's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 290
Originally Posted by MaxBoost925
Go 5th gen 5-speed, 3.0 VQ is one of the smoothest motors. 5.5 gen 3.5 VQ has oil burnoff, but then, it has a 6-speed.


Ture. The only attractive function that 5.5 gen has over 5 gen is Xenon headlamps, otherwise I would rather have a 5 gen.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:09 AM
  #9  
UGAd13's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,861
From: Atlanta
Originally Posted by 00Max00


Ture. The only attractive function that 5.5 gen has over 5 gen is Xenon headlamps, otherwise I would rather have a 5 gen.
Liar. Better front grill, tail lights, side skirts, wheels, the list goes on and on and on and on...

5.5gens RULE!!!
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:12 AM
  #10  
aliti19's Avatar
Maxima addiction cured w/ the GS pill
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,932
Originally Posted by UGAd13
side note: what the he!! is this--> I'm not that big of an internet nerd to know what it is.
"oh really?" It's an inside joke w/ the O.T. people. If you donate, you will have access to the OT forum and know what it's all about.

BTW... '02-'03 6-speed is definately the way to go.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:20 AM
  #11  
UGAd13's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,861
From: Atlanta
Originally Posted by aliti19
"oh really?" It's an inside joke w/ the O.T. people.
Gotcha.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:31 AM
  #12  
2K3MAX2NV's Avatar
"tse-tse fly"
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,529
From: L.I., NY
I love my 2k3 TE and I also love the AE so I turned my 2k3 into and AE "looks" wise with the same 255hp from my 3.5L
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:32 AM
  #13  
Deckdout2's Avatar
Play with my balls
iTrader: (151)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,541
From: Charlotte, NC
I have an 03 6-speed, my fiance has an 01 AE automatic. I like both cars, of course mine better. The real ? is......what are you planning on doing to this car. If you're going to keep it stock with a few mods then 5.5 would be of greater asset to you. If you want to be able to do more with what's available already, ie..supercharger, turbo, and things like that then a 5th gen might suit you better. It's really a personal opinion and you have to drive both to be sure which one you like stock. Then again, I did spray my 5.5 gen with a 75 shot and walked a supercharged maxima.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:38 AM
  #14  
DrKlop's Avatar
Driving is the next best thing
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,023
From: NYC
5.5 gen is definitely better than 5th gen, but I know from many independent sources that 2k-2k1 are more reliable. They also got smoother engine, and (this one is just my assumption) 3 liter engine is lighter than 3.5, which means you’re getting better weight distribution.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:47 AM
  #15  
Puppetmaster's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,551
From: Fairfax, VA
The VQ30 is smoother and you can do more with it, as Deckdout already said... but you'd be getting an older car with more miles, although its a minimal difference. The AE would already come with a kit, which is nice, and if you're into that kinda thing. The 6-speed on the 5.5th Gen is nice and all, but probably not as efficient as the 5th Gen's 5 speed, and once again, whether that is an issue or not depends on your goals for the car. The 5.5 does come with HIDs, which some people dig, and you're starting off with more HP.

I like my 02... I think it runs pretty smooth and I like the power... the heated seats and steering wheel, 6 speed, and HLSD are nice to have too.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:48 AM
  #16  
Puppetmaster's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,551
From: Fairfax, VA
Originally Posted by DrKlop
5.5 gen is definitely better than 5th gen, but I know from many independent sources that 2k-2k1 are more reliable. They also got smoother engine, and (this one is just my assumption) 3 liter engine is lighter than 3.5, which means you’re getting better weight distribution.
I actually think that the VQ30 is actually about 30 lbs heavier than the VQ35.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:10 AM
  #17  
KCMC582's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,530
From: Greenville, SC
well if you 2 ***** are in this thread, i have to be. i agree with deckd and puppets statements, pretty much all the way. When i was lookin around, i knew i wouldnt be doin a turbo or super, so the extra power from the 5.5 appealed to me, same with HIDs and i like the look of the gated shifter, haha. so you will never, ever, EVER, get a straight answer as to which is better.

btw, im posting at work!
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:14 AM
  #18  
Bobo's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,187
I would go for an 03SE, 6-speed. It would have to be equipped with heated leather seats and a sunroof. Look for a low-mileage vehicle, ideally say 30 - 40K if possible.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:17 AM
  #19  
NYPD-Arnold's Avatar
Z
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,818
Here's a completely unbiased opinion: get a 2002/03. Why?

255HP 3.5VQ
6 Disc In-Dash Headunit
More grippy leather on steering wheel
Arguably nicer seats
HIDs
Overall aggressive fascia
Update rim design (no enormous center cap)
Trip monitor
Snow notification
4-Spd Auto with nicer shifter gate
6-spd makes the 02/03 the fastest Maxima ever
Auto up/down windows for driver and passenger.

Get the 02/03.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:31 AM
  #20  
DrKlop's Avatar
Driving is the next best thing
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,023
From: NYC
Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
I actually think that the VQ30 is actually about 30 lbs heavier than the VQ35.
That is something interesting…
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:41 AM
  #21  
kcowden's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 968
Uh... I'd have to say get an 03 but I'm a little biased on that subject. If I had to do it again I'd get a 03 6 speed. I guess I have to live with my autocrapit.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:45 AM
  #22  
krazyd's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,422
From: New York
I have a 2001 and love it, but I would have to say go with a 2003 SE if you can find one in very good condition.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:52 AM
  #23  
xtantmaxima's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 1,223
Took NYPDArnold's list and just took what I think are the highlights:

HIDs
6-spd
255HP 3.5VQ
6 Disc In-Dash Headunit
Trip monitor

My 2000 opinion is to get the 2003 if you can afford it.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:54 AM
  #24  
Deckdout2's Avatar
Play with my balls
iTrader: (151)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,541
From: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted by KCMC582
well if you 2 ***** are in this thread, i have to be. i agree with deckd and puppets statements, pretty much all the way. When i was lookin around, i knew i wouldnt be doin a turbo or super, so the extra power from the 5.5 appealed to me, same with HIDs and i like the look of the gated shifter, haha. so you will never, ever, EVER, get a straight answer as to which is better.

btw, im posting at work!
you must be our pimp in the purple suit if we're the *****.

the main thing i like better on my 5.5 vs 5th is that my seats are alot more comfortable. everything else i can deal with.

btw,
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 09:00 AM
  #25  
KCMC582's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,530
From: Greenville, SC
Originally Posted by Deckdout2
you must be our pimp in the purple suit if we're the *****.
Im Bishop Magic Don Juan
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 09:23 AM
  #26  
eturnl
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thats odd fellas, Just after i posted this thread, i realized that the 2001 AE doesnt come with a 3.5! So i figured you all would say go with the 5.5. But now im hearing things that are making me less decisive!

OIL BURNOFF on the 3.5?! Not as smooth?! Are you guys serious?! What i loved about my 4th gen: Although I have a tiny oil leak... after 3000 miles my dipstick shows the my oil at the same level as when I did the oil change! minus 1mm maybe! Very little oil burnoff indeed! Im just shocked to hear the 3.5 is less efficient. I figured Nissan engineers would design an equivalantly efficient engine, just more powerfull!

I have the 3.0 without the variable intake of course. And i love the speed of this car, however i drove a G35 coupe and the power in that car gave me goosebumps (stock power) I Know the g35 has alittle more horsepower than the 03max but i figured with alittle modding i can reach the 288+ hp. Also im guessing the 5th gen max is about as fast as my 4th gen.

Seriously you guys are starting to scare me about the 3.5... Is it really not not as smooth and effiecient as the 3.0? Come on fellas not bias opinions! I have a 3.0 and love it but i will admit that 'theoretically' id rather have a 3.5 Just base on my G35 experience.

And whats this about the 5-speed is not as efficient as the 6-speed?! whats up with efficiency and the 5.5?! Or is this just speculation?
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 09:27 AM
  #27  
MaxBoost925's Avatar
Drug Money
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,449
From: USA
Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
I actually think that the VQ30 is actually about 30 lbs heavier than the VQ35.
Are you joshing me!?
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 09:31 AM
  #28  
eturnl
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Guys stop arguing about the weight and *****/pimps and help me pick a max! sheeesh!
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 09:35 AM
  #29  
lowincash's Avatar
No More Maxipad
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 944
From: Los Angeles
when i was looking for a maxima i was trying to decide to get a 5th gen or 5.5gen too...i test drove both (they were automatics tho) and i just like to have more power. both cars feels pretty smooth shifting and since i'm looking for a car that i'm going to leave stock and have plenty of power i went with the 5.5gen...also main thing is that it got HID's!!! haha i'm a big HID nut and i can't have a car without HID's lol also, when i test drove the 01 and 02, the 02 seat kinda feels more comfy
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 09:38 AM
  #30  
Starchild2K2SE's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 279
Get a 02-03 6-speed, and enjoy the fun. Hell I jumped from a vg30e(160hp) to a 2002 vq35(255hp), that's a crazy jump, and had fun from day one. Im pretty sure you would too. I was suprised by the oil burnoff, but who cares, im still happy with the car. Variable timing burns much more oil than regular car, just ask those vtec honda boyz......

The only thing I hate about the car is the fact you have to watch where you park the car, the 02-03's come with hid's and people are always getting their **** stolen. That's what you have to watch out for, but if you have a backyard I say go for it!
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 09:39 AM
  #31  
Deckdout2's Avatar
Play with my balls
iTrader: (151)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,541
From: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted by eturnl
Guys stop arguing about the weight and *****/pimps and help me pick a max! sheeesh!

End your misery! Buy a 5.5, you won't be disappointed, and get initiated into the ***** club. You don't want to be one of "Those Guys" do you?
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:02 AM
  #32  
Puppetmaster's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,551
From: Fairfax, VA
Originally Posted by KCMC582
Im Bishop Magic Don Juan
About time you came back, bish...
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:10 AM
  #33  
Puppetmaster's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,551
From: Fairfax, VA
Originally Posted by eturnl
OIL BURNOFF on the 3.5?! Not as smooth?! Are you guys serious?! What i loved about my 4th gen: Although I have a tiny oil leak... after 3000 miles my dipstick shows the my oil at the same level as when I did the oil change! minus 1mm maybe! Very little oil burnoff indeed! Im just shocked to hear the 3.5 is less efficient. I figured Nissan engineers would design an equivalantly efficient engine, just more powerfull!
I have a VQ35 and I've driven a VQ30, you can also ask Irish44J, Cutler, and Soonerfan and they will agree that the VQ30 is smoother because I know they've all driven both as well. Its not like the VQ35 is a crappy engine... its great, but you can feel the slight difference if ya compare the 2. I think its negligible, but some people are bothered by it.

Btw, I have so far not encountered any oil burning problems... I think there are some who have, but they are a minority... so far...

Originally Posted by eturnl
And whats this about the 5-speed is not as efficient as the 6-speed?! whats up with efficiency and the 5.5?! Or is this just speculation?
Here is what I'm talking about:

Originally Posted by d00df00d
The 5spd is more efficient because it just has fewer moving parts, and that means it transfers the engine's power to the wheels better. Its ratios are virtually the same as the first 5 gears on the 6spd, and same goes for the final drivev, so the 6spd doesn't have any advantage in gearing (except for cruising at highway speeds). The 5spd is lighter than the 6spd too, which of course helps things as well.
Originally Posted by SR20DEN
The 6 speed is less efficient than the 'old' 5 speed because it has slightly larger gears and it has 8 pairs of constantly meshing gears as opposed to the old 5 speeds 5 pairs (not including the final drive).
From thread: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=419897

Like we've already said... its not really an issue unless you're looking for something to turn into a track car or something... what do ya intend to get out of the car?

I've had my 5.5 for over 3 years and I love it for all the reasons posted previously and by everyone else...
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:14 AM
  #34  
Deckdout2's Avatar
Play with my balls
iTrader: (151)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,541
From: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
About time you came back, bish...
He got over his "I can't get on the org at work dilemma"
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:16 AM
  #35  
boondoxmax's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,415
From: Boston, MA
Originally Posted by 00Max00


Ture. The only attractive function that 5.5 gen has over 5 gen is Xenon headlamps, otherwise I would rather have a 5 gen.
2 people have oil burn off and now all 3.5 burn oil....NOT. I've owned a 02 no oil burn off, now an 03 no oill burn off.......IT IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE 3.5L. my suggestion is to drive both and see which one you like, but i am pretty sure you'll go with the 5.5 gen..........
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:23 AM
  #36  
KCMC582's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,530
From: Greenville, SC
Originally Posted by Deckdout2
He got over his "I can't get on the org at work dilemma"
as long as i can deal with this slow VNC connection and the random color changing, i can post on the ORG.

now get back on your corner and make me some money, bish!
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:24 AM
  #37  
Puppetmaster's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,551
From: Fairfax, VA
Originally Posted by MaxBoost925
Are you joshing me!?
No, I'm pretty sure the VQ35 block is 30 lbs plus lighter than the VQ30 block, even though they have the same dimensions.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:25 AM
  #38  
Puppetmaster's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,551
From: Fairfax, VA
Originally Posted by KCMC582
as long as i can deal with this slow VNC connection and the random color changing, i can post on the ORG.

now get back on your corner and make me some money, bish!
... but just curious, are you using the "alternative" URLs that Doug posted?
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:32 AM
  #39  
KCMC582's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,530
From: Greenville, SC
no, im using maxima.org, im just remotely logging into my computer from work using VNC, thats why its so laggy and weird.

i might as well contribute to this thread...none of us can tell you which is better for you. do you plan on going all out forced induction engine performance? get a 00-01. if you want to focus on minor mods and show type stuff, get a 6 speed 02-03, so you will be happy with the performance. you need to know what you want ahead of time before we can answer this for ya.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:47 AM
  #40  
eturnl
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by Deckdout2
End your misery! Buy a 5.5, you won't be disappointed, and get initiated into the ***** club. You don't want to be one of "Those Guys" do you?
Buahahahaha! soon enough bud!



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:42 AM.