Ok heres the deal, I know this guy with a 94 accord with a full exhaust, headers. Thats everything I know he has for sure but there could be more. He wants to run my max and all my mods are in my sig. I did get a chance to test him out at a 10 mph roll on a closed course and he pulled on me by about 2-3 cars. Also I found out by doing a little research that he ran 16.5 (not sure of what he had when he did it) last year but who knows where he could be now. The fastest I've gone is 15.8 before my y-pipe and I havent run it with the y-pipe yet. So do you guys think I am going to lose horribly to his vtach or do i stand a chance? Also what can I do to the car to have a chance.

 

Oh yeah he has an H22 motor which from what I read is a swap. For his car.

 

I have a friend with an accord, but its the wagon one. He also has the same swap i believe its a prelude engine. not sure though. He's 5 speed im an auto, i crushed him stock. It was horribly slow, but it coulda just been the wagon weight.

 

LOL. This is some funny stuff....
You guys are joking right?

Well if you're not. FYI: An 94 accord running 16.5 is pretty normal for a SOHC accord. But if he was able to pull 2-3 cars on you when you're claiming a 15.8 run, then either you can't drive at all (which shouldn't be that hard for auto) or he should be a race car driver.

A 2-3 car lead is definitely possible out of the H22, 190 hp 165 TQ.

Oh yeah. Properly swapped H22 accords should be running around possiply mid 14's to 15 flat w/out a problem.

You would have a chance against an H22 if you had: VI + ECU and some weight reduction.

 

TC, so that means he's auto?

 

The 16.5 is probably before the swap but I dont know. And I have an auto so its not much to driving it. My timeslip is on my cardomain page in case you dont believe my time. But this does give me some idea of how I will do and what I need to win. Thanks.

 

Oh no I heard someone say he had it but he's a manual so ignore that sorry.

 

Get your story straight then ..

H22 has 200 hp ... but in the Prelude version did not produce the results it could have due to the gear ratios, and their tendancy to fall off the VTEC cam ...

I'd rather have a K series 2.0

 

Vtec!!1!1ONE!!!1!

 

is it with you and VTEC?

 

So would I win or lose?

 

If he's 5MT, teh lose for the Auto Maxi ...

But that's still there are just too many factors..

Give me a dyno of both and specs (weight/gear ratios)

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the USDM H22 produce only 190 hp (emissions)? The gear ratios aren't all that bad but are obviously killing its power (test drove one before the max).

Forget the K20 bro. We all know the K24 block is the place to start. Then mate the K20A head onto that.

 

They made a 190hp and I belive a japan spec motor put out more but I am not exactly sure how much though but I dont think it was much more power though. I have owned a 95 and 99 accords with vtech's in both of them and the 95 ran 17.1 stock and the 99 I had ran 16.8 stock.Both were autos.

 

id bet my $ on the max

 

The maxima has the superior powerband and similar weight. Problem is that the accord is 5spd and you are auto. If you were a 5spd, you'd smoke him.

 

Deffinately the Accord

 

If everything you're telling us is correct...then you will get destroyed by that accord...

The h22a1 is most likely the swap he is running...since it comes off the 92-96 prelude and is designed on the same body as the 94-97 accord...direct bolt on....coupled with a full exhaust system like you said....and a 5spd transmission...the accord is definitely a 14 second car with a good driver....180whp and a 2750lbs car...

 

OK here's info about the whole thing. I went to the track and ran a 15.4 so I'm alittle closer to him. And he told me that his 2nd gear is messing up. ANd yes he has run high 14's. So it sounds like I would most likely lose this one. I postponed the race until I can get a couple more things done.

 

can you show us the timeslip for that 15.4 run?

 

My scanner isnt working right now but I'll try to make it to my frinds house tonight to scan it. But I'll post all the info for now.

R/T.... .691
60'..... 2.340
330.... 6.542
1/8..... 9.966
MPH.... 72.99
1000... 12.922
1/4 .... 15.457
MPH.... 89.86

 

Pretty good time there AJ, is that after the Ypipe?

 

pretty good times...i'm sure u can bring your 60ft down a little more...that should give the accord a run for it's money...but i still think a properly driven h22a accord with full bolt ons is going to take you out...

 

Thanks and yeah thats after the y-pipe.

 

Thanks. I'm not trying to spend to much money to win this race so I was thinking about ordering a high-flow Cat and a b-pipe from budget. Then take all the seats out. Do you think that would be enough to beat him?

 

I know the high flow cat and the bpipe won't do much for your maxima....save your money on something else like a VI or JWT ecu...stripping your seats might get you somewhere...I know if you strip the front passenger+rear bench+spare+jack+carpets+other loose items, you will shave a pretty good amount of weight that MIGHT be seen on timeslips...But I still do not know whether or not u will beat him

Does the accord have any timeslips? I mean if you raced him from a 10mph roll and he pulled only 2 cars before your ypipe, I am not impressed with his car/driving....a properly driven, properly swapped, healthy engine accord h22, will do 14s easily especially with full bolt ons...I believe there was a member awhile back named Veetec (warren i think) who use to own a 93 prelude vtec...and ran a 13.8 or something with full bolt ons and slicks... so that puts a street tire driven prelude at low 14s....nowhere near your 15.4 timeslip...I realize this is coming from a prelude...but FYI, a prelude and accord of that same generation both weigh the same...so the comparison can still be made

but who knows...maybe something is up with your friends accord...and it ain't producing the power like its suppose to...or maybe he doesn't shift quick enough...or maybe it's other factors...well whatever it is, I know in the theortical world, a 180whp 2700-2800lbs car will beat your max easily

 

Oh well sounds like teh lose for me so I wont race him till I'm in the 14's which hopefully will be soon. I'm going to the track on friday to see if i can hit 15.2. Thanks for all the info guys.

 

If the car is light blue and is driven by a guy named craig or greg or something like that. DO NOT RACE HIM!!!!!! That is a low 14 sec car. I also hear he's spraying and dips into the mid-low 13's when spraying. That car has alot of work in it.

 

If there's no money involved, why the fark not race him for the fluck of it? Win some, you lose some.

 

Well I'll be. Thanks for the heads up dude. I didnt know that little peice of info. How do you know him?

 

Yeah theres money involved.

 

dont do it w/ your mods. I have a 94 accord as well and was planning on doing the H22 swap before i decided to buy the max. He should run 14s with a few bolt-ons especially if hes 5spd.

 

Thanks for mentioning it

 

just run him and see what happens if anything it will be a good race

 

I would if it was just for fun but there is a couple hundred dollars on the line.

 

Evidently you can see that he has done some stuff u don't know. So I wouldn't race but for all others I once raced an accord with headers and exhaust work and beat him stock. So if u get another similar race i would say that you should win. but your friend has done more work than u know.

 

My car is also an auto. what i did was to do a simulation of a launch by holding the brakes while keeping ny car at around 2500-3000 rpms which will do you better than starting with nothing.

 

Just race him and let us know what happened, then we can guess what he might have in that honda!!

 

I'll race him for a few hundred i need some extra cash lol.

 

Ok but you'll have to donate to my racing fund.