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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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Aftermarket Fog light questions

Does anyone know where to buy some good aftermarket fog lights/driving lights? Can people post some pictures with these on their Maximas?
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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hella ff50 or ff75
they are very highly rated
i plan on getting them. just not sure which style.
mzmtg has the ff50 driving lights, and they are very bright.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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How freaking wierd. I was just going to post this very same thread. I just took the in between plastic pieces off of my stock foglight locations yesterday and decided to post about it. I see most people are replacing with stock sets, which looks good. Good but not creative. I would also like to see some aftermarket setups. I'm thinking maybe some inserts cut to fit the location with round or oval foglights inserted to fit such. It would be easier and cheaper to install aftermarket IMO. Everything comes as a kit for much less than $130+.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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My maxima does not have driving lights at all. When it is raining I can hardly see the road at all.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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My maxima does not have driving lights at all. When it is raining I can hardly see the road at all.
I was going to get the FF50 fogs last year and then ended up bailing... I need some extra lighting too... I'm so lazy
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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^ So why did you post in this thread then?

Upgrade to Cefiros with the H4 bulb for the win.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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^ So why did you post in this thread then?
Cos' I knew you would follow me here?

Actually, I just wanted to recommend the FF50s

I'd upgrade to the cefiros if the fitment was better.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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They are about $80 and look good. I haven't seen any pics of them installed on a max though. Are there any cheaper brands that look comparable?
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by njmodi
Cos' I knew you would follow me here?

Actually, I just wanted to recommend the FF50s

I'd upgrade to the cefiros if the fitment was better.
Oops. You snuck in before me. I was actually refering to the post above yours.

It took me a long time to get over the fitment issue of the Cefiros and buy them. The light out put makes up for the so so fitment.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubbya
Oops. You snuck in before me. I was actually refering to the post above yours.

It took me a long time to get over the fitment issue of the Cefiros and buy them. The light out put makes up for the so so fitment.
No problems ...

To the OP: Don't get driving lights (for the safety of oncoming drivers). Driving lights are not supposed to be used to supplement your regular headlights - they have a beam-pattern that will blind oncoming drivers - and are meant to be used in rural areas/no or low traffic conditions.

Check out the Hella website for beam patterns for the ff50 driving vs. fog lamps and you'll see what I mean.

Other quality lights are PIAAs (but they are even more expensive).
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Thanks njmodi! I will have to check out my options. Still waiting for pictures from others.
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i installed well half *** installed a set of Opliux, i dunno how to spell it. Its a brand made by Hella. They were about 30$ and smaller then FF50/75. Haven't aimed them yet. But the lighting from it isn't all that either. Brighter then stock fogs tho.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TurTLe*
i installed well half *** installed a set of Opliux, i dunno how to spell it. Its a brand made by Hella. They were about 30$ and smaller then FF50/75. Haven't aimed them yet. But the lighting from it isn't all that either. Brighter then stock fogs tho.
Which OptiLux? Hella make alot of different models under that name.
Do you have any pictures?
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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I found this in the stickies:
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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I got mine off of CE awhile back when they were on sale for $24.99 or something like that. I used to have stock foglights, but after enough rocks/pebbles that hit the glass, all of it broke off. I have the aftermarket ones but one side kind of cracked because of rocks and what ever that fly at them.

Old Jan 20, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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I've had my aftermarket fogs for almost 8 months now but the light output seems to be diminishing, perhaps its because they are cheap in quality. So I have been looking at the PIAA 510 series, the ion cyrstal, which lays down a yellow beam but illuminates blue. But for $210...I'm not sure I would want to pay that kind of money. So my next choice is the 1500xt, yellow, not as nice looking but around $120. I was curious to see how they would look on my car so I photoshopped them both on there. The lamps are pretty close to scale so this is how its going to actually look in the stock fog location on a 95SE Maxima.

PIAA 510 series:


PIAA 1500XT series:


Which one would y'all go with?
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I would go with the first pic the 510 series. $210 is steep but just like everything else, you want it to look as good as it works.

B.T.W. what photoshop do you have ? Adobe?
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DR-Max

PIAA 510 series:


PIAA 1500XT series:


Which one would y'all go with?

I think both look nice in their own way. For me, this is a function over form decision. I'm actually going with Hella FF50s (I actually ordered some yesterday). Night-time driving, in the rain/snow with wet roads is downright frustrating with just the stock 9004s. The PIAAs are a fair bit pricier than the Hellas - that's why I opted for the Hellas. Hopefully I won't be disappointed with the light-output.

Since I have GLE, and don't want to mess around with cutting the bumper, I'm going to mount mine in the air dam space under the license plate.... hopefully it won't look too As long as I get some good light, I'll live with however it looks asthetically
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by njmodi
I think both look nice in their own way. For me, this is a function over form decision. I'm actually going with Hella FF50s (I actually ordered some yesterday). Night-time driving, in the rain/snow with wet roads is downright frustrating with just the stock 9004s. The PIAAs are a fair bit pricier than the Hellas - that's why I opted for the Hellas. Hopefully I won't be disappointed with the light-output.

Since I have GLE, and don't want to mess around with cutting the bumper, I'm going to mount mine in the air dam space under the license plate.... hopefully it won't look too As long as I get some good light, I'll live with however it looks asthetically
how do you plan on wiring them up?
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by njmodi
I think both look nice in their own way. For me, this is a function over form decision. I'm actually going with Hella FF50s (I actually ordered some yesterday). Night-time driving, in the rain/snow with wet roads is downright frustrating with just the stock 9004s. The PIAAs are a fair bit pricier than the Hellas - that's why I opted for the Hellas. Hopefully I won't be disappointed with the light-output.

Since I have GLE, and don't want to mess around with cutting the bumper, I'm going to mount mine in the air dam space under the license plate.... hopefully it won't look too As long as I get some good light, I'll live with however it looks asthetically
http://www.hella.com/produktion/Hell.../FF50/FF50.jsp

Also in the market for aftermarket fogs. How much did you pay? Looking on eBay and mostly all of them are driving kits
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That's true, PIAA's are pricey, you're paying for the name and performance. I wen't to this place called Performance in Van Nuy's, CA. They have all their fog systems hooked up to a power source so you can test them out. The light output of the 510 is insane! I looked for a Hella equivalent of the 510 but they don't have anything. So I guess I'm going to bite the bullet and go for the 510.

One thing I don't understand is that why do so many fog systems come in blue now. I thought that blue beams don't illumate as well as white or yellow beams. PIAA and Hella almost have blue versions of every light series.

Originally Posted by njmodi
I think both look nice in their own way. For me, this is a function over form decision. I'm actually going with Hella FF50s (I actually ordered some yesterday). Night-time driving, in the rain/snow with wet roads is downright frustrating with just the stock 9004s. The PIAAs are a fair bit pricier than the Hellas - that's why I opted for the Hellas. Hopefully I won't be disappointed with the light-output.

Since I have GLE, and don't want to mess around with cutting the bumper, I'm going to mount mine in the air dam space under the license plate.... hopefully it won't look too As long as I get some good light, I'll live with however it looks asthetically
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cheapo's from autozone:

i'm not big on lighting. these combined with 9007 conversion, and i barely need high beams.. good enough for me
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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cheapo's from autozone:
i'm not big on lighting. these combined with 9007 conversion, and i barely need high beams.. good enough for me
What does the 9007 coversion do for you and how hard was it?
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I would go with the first pic the 510 series. $210 is steep but just like everything else, you want it to look as good as it works.

B.T.W. what photoshop do you have ? Adobe?

<ot>that's the only kind of photoshop there is.</ot>
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What does the 9007 coversion do for you and how hard was it?
How-to's in the stickies, under lighting. its a different bulb type, superior output than the 9004s.
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how much would a shop charge if i bought piaa's and brought them in to be installed?
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Originally Posted by mendon99
How-to's in the stickies, under lighting. its a different bulb type, superior output than the 9004s.
Thanks for the tip!
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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how do you plan on wiring them up?
The kit includes a harness, switch, fuse and relay. I haven't got it yet, so I haven't quite figured out what I want to do.

Since I have a GLE, I know I'm pre-wired for the factory fogs, so I might try to a retro with the fog-light stalk and use the factory wiring.

OR

I might just keep it simple and use the harness they provide and just run a seperate switch altogether into the cabin. Like I said, I need this for function more than form and given the temps are in the 30s around here, I'll be keeping it as simple as possible to start off with. When it gets warmer, I might get more creative.
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Originally Posted by JaTaN
http://www.hella.com/produktion/Hell.../FF50/FF50.jsp

Also in the market for aftermarket fogs. How much did you pay? Looking on eBay and mostly all of them are driving kits
JaTaN - I looked on E, but almost all of them are driving kits. I ended up ordering from autoanything.com - 69 bucks free shipping

Btw - if you order a set (FF50s or otherwise), perhaps we can do the installation together...
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That's true, PIAA's are pricey, you're paying for the name and performance. I wen't to this place called Performance in Van Nuy's, CA. They have all their fog systems hooked up to a power source so you can test them out. The light output of the 510 is insane! I looked for a Hella equivalent of the 510 but they don't have anything. So I guess I'm going to bite the bullet and go for the 510.

One thing I don't understand is that why do so many fog systems come in blue now. I thought that blue beams don't illumate as well as white or yellow beams. PIAA and Hella almost have blue versions of every light series.
It's nice to read an intelligent post here after a long week of answering the same old **** over and over again...

I figured for $210 - thats half the cost of an HID retro and I read some good reviews about the FF50s - and at 1/3 the price the delta to the PIAAs was too much for me personally.

I think the photoshop of the 510 look bada$$ - so I'm sure you'll be happy.

Do you have stock fogs right now? Maybe those of us who are finally taking the aftermarket foglamp plunge should discuss the installation/wiring/switching - we can take it off the org (email) or to PM...

I should get my kit sometime next week... I'll see what installation goodies and instructions are in there.
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Seperate issue:

Installation aftermarket fogs into a 95/96 bumper with no cut-outs

1. If I do cut out the bumper, I was going to cut out the entire area that you would need for a stock setup.

2. If I do end up doing that, what do I need to cover up the rough edge that woudl result from the cut - is that the fog light bracket that is so high in demand in the classifieds section?
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Originally Posted by njmodi
JaTaN - I looked on E, but almost all of them are driving kits. I ended up ordering from autoanything.com - 69 bucks free shipping

Btw - if you order a set (FF50s or otherwise), perhaps we can do the installation together...
I only see http://www.autoanything.com/products...f_50_light_kit and its under the "Lights & Lighting -> Driving Lights" category (don't see the fog one)

I don't plan on cutting my bumper lol
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Originally Posted by JaTaN
I only see http://www.autoanything.com/products...f_50_light_kit and its under the "Lights & Lighting -> Driving Lights" category (don't see the fog one)

I don't plan on cutting my bumper lol
oops... looks like I'll have to cancel my order... that link came up when I searched for FF50 fog lamps... so I didn't even notice the categories...

I'll try to find them elsewhere...

I'm really not keen on cutting my bumper either - so I think I'll probably end up putting the lights in the air-dam area as I was originally leaning towards.

Thanks for pointing out that driving lights category!
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No prob - I kept looking for a fog light category on there but couldnt find it lol
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http://www.classicgarage.com/classic...ffoglikit.html for the FF50 fogs...

Was thinking about getting some FF75 driving lights (yes I know, they're like super highbeams, so don't "warn" me ), but doubt they'd be aesthetically pleasing, as my car already has a set of fogs that I like (stock). Do you think there's a way I could mount them in the front air dam but far back/up, so that they're not very visible?
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
http://www.classicgarage.com/classic...ffoglikit.html for the FF50 fogs...

Was thinking about getting some FF75 driving lights (yes I know, they're like super highbeams, so don't "warn" me , but doubt they'd be aesthetically pleasing, as my car already has a set of fogs that I like (stock). Do you think there's a way I could mount them in the front air dam but far back/up, so that they're not very visible?

Thanks for the link. Once I get confirmation that my first order was cancelled, I'll reorder.
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No prob.. just sniped an ebay FF75 driving light auction for $30 + $11 shipping... pretty good price. Noticed I should be able to install them pretty far back in the air dam, so we'll see when I get 'em.
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No prob.. just siped an ebay FF75 driving light auction for $30 + $11 shipping... pretty good price. Noticed I should be able to install them pretty far back in the air dam, so we'll see when I get 'em.
Yup - plenty of FF75 and FF50 driving lights on Ebay - just no good deals on the fog-lamp versions... let us know how it turns out.
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Hey guys i m new to this forum, just got a 96 gle. About the H7 light bulbs in the Hella fogs, can we chage them when they burn out or do i have to buy another kit?
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i was going to upgrade from stocker foggers to somethign nice still rectangular and retro fit them into the stock opening....hopefully using the stock wiring...but i might just make my own custom harness like danielsternlighting.com recommends

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ys/relays.html



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