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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 06:10 AM
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anyone have any experience with body work, dents?

i had someone roll into my car at the parking lot. lLetf a fairly deep dent in my rear quater pannel. The paint is fine, and as far as i can tell there is no crease. just a rounded dip. I have perfect access to the backside of it from the inside of the trunk. Should I attempt to push it out? it will be a temporary solution untill i can take it to a body shop. What is the best method to use to push it out? Rubber mallot? a puece of wood placed over the dent and banged with a hammer? pressure?
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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if the metal isn't creased, you could simply bang it out with a rubber mallet. I've also heard, but never tried, that if you stick a pice of dry ice on the dent, with some kind of protection between, the metal will constrict and the dent should pop out.
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here are some camera phone pics



Old Mar 3, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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There's a simple dent removal tool, basically a sucker in the middle of a strong piece of metal, you stick the sucker to the centre of the dent and wind it up and it pops the dent out for you. You'll probably find it at Home Despot or Ace Hardware. Think it costs about $35.
In the old days I used to own a full set of body hammers but doing bodywork with hammers takes lots of practice. Actually I still have the plenishing hammer, and the oxy-acetylene is still sitting in my garage too.
Learning on your Max is not a good idea. Use the dent puller and then do all your friend's cars as well.
PS - looking at the photos you do have a slight crease, but it will hardly be visible if you pull it properly.
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Originally Posted by clive
There's a simple dent removal tool, basically a sucker in the middle of a strong piece of metal, you stick the sucker to the centre of the dent and wind it up and it pops the dent out for you. You'll probably find it at Home Despot or Ace Hardware. Think it costs about $35.
In the old days I used to own a full set of body hammers but doing bodywork with hammers takes lots of practice. Actually I still have the plenishing hammer, and the oxy-acetylene is still sitting in my garage too.
Learning on your Max is not a good idea. Use the dent puller and then do all your friend's cars as well.
PS - looking at the photos you do have a slight crease, but it will hardly be visible if you pull it properly.

so this is manageable for me to do? the sucker will work better than a mallot?
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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that looks a little more serious than something you can do with a sucker. before you touch it, bring it to a couple of body shops for free estimates. if its only like $200 bucks, might as well have it done right.
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FunLovinMaxima
that looks a little more serious than something you can do with a sucker. before you touch it, bring it to a couple of body shops for free estimates. if its only like $200 bucks, might as well have it done right.

i got quoted 500 at one shop. i figure i'll try it myself, and i can always take it to a shop later if i cant do it.
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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i got quoted 500 at one shop. i figure i'll try it myself, and i can always take it to a shop later if i cant do it.
500 sounds high, but if that's the case I agree with you. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by FunLovinMaxima
500 sounds high, but if that's the case I agree with you. Good luck!

he was talking bondo and repaining. id rather try it first.
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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so this is manageable for me to do? the sucker will work better than a mallot?
You DON'T want to use a mallet. Using a mallet will stretch the metal and you'll end up with a bunch of lumps instead of a simple dent, and then when you give up and take it to a body place, they'll shake their heads and laugh (when you've gone). A mallet is not shaped properly, it would make a mess. A plenishing hammer is shaped properly and has a highly smooth surface too. Even then, a shrinking hammer would probably also be necessary. And that is a skill that was generally lost along with techniques such as 'leading'. (With lead.)
Try the dent tool. They work pretty well. The larger the dent the better. It should work fine with that dent, I bet you'll be left with a tiny crease mark at the top, nothing more.
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pull out the plunger. it works wonders
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by descent
pull out the plunger. it works wonders
Hehehe. Maybe descent means the rubber bathroom plunger. It might work, you never know...
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by clive
You DON'T want to use a mallet. Using a mallet will stretch the metal and you'll end up with a bunch of lumps instead of a simple dent, and then when you give up and take it to a body place, they'll shake their heads and laugh (when you've gone). A mallet is not shaped properly, it would make a mess. A plenishing hammer is shaped properly and has a highly smooth surface too. Even then, a shrinking hammer would probably also be necessary. And that is a skill that was generally lost along with techniques such as 'leading'. (With lead.)
Try the dent tool. They work pretty well. The larger the dent the better. It should work fine with that dent, I bet you'll be left with a tiny crease mark at the top, nothing more.
ok. im sold. so the dent tool is available at home depot, like clive said?
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Bijangxe does paintless dent removal. He could either help you out or point you in the right direction. (located in Marietta)
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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You can try this method
Buy one child baloon and put it in place(deflated) where is your jack and then try to pump it up. Might help. Good luck
Old Mar 4, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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Try to use a plunger (YES A PLUNGER)and pull HARD. It sound funny but that's what we do back then when i was working in a car rental, works pretty good on medium/big dents that had no paint damage.
Old Mar 4, 2006 | 01:58 AM
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Plunger sounds nice honestly!. However, a friend of mine had a dent in the same area but not as big. We went in the trunk removed the stand that hold the jack near the antenna and popped it out with rubber mallet and he pulled with plunger. it is very easy to access that area through the trunk you will also have to remove the lining a little. Overall it worked fine BUT our dent was not that big. Good luck!
Old Mar 4, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Fr33way
Bijangxe does paintless dent removal. He could either help you out or point you in the right direction. (located in Marietta)

when you say does it, do you mean 'has done it before' or does it as a job?
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