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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:06 PM
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I don't think anybody has brought this up yet... but a 02' maxima with a SC adapted to it (should be easy) should put down well over 300 WHP and run a 12sec 1/4. You guys think this is possible?
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:13 PM
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my maxima already runs 12's
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:15 PM
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my maxima already runs 12's
you must be drinking 40s if you think you're maxima is running 12s
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:18 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:20 PM
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loser buys the next round?
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you must be drinking 40s if you think you're maxima is running 12s
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:20 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:22 PM
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well i might as well start buying......


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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
loser buys the next round?
if you run a 12 at maxus then I buy you a drink, if you can't then I get one...
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:42 PM
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Sprint, the NOS in your trunk is leaking into the cabin.
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by theblue

if you run a 12 at maxus then I buy you a drink, if you can't then I get one...

i'll second that bet!
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
Sprint, the NOS in your trunk is leaking into the cabin.

Old Jun 15, 2001 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
Sprint, the NOS in your trunk is leaking into the cabin.
hey, i am gonna have mine do that, but it's gonna be on purpose.
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 02:06 PM
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You're an airhead now, then you'll be a NOShead. Not too much different.
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 02:13 PM
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what the heck is this, oh sorry it looked wierd through AOL.
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 02:22 PM
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You can use Internet Explorer outside of AOL. Just minimize AOL, select IE, then away you go without the small screen.
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 03:17 PM
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If the '02 has 260 CRANK hp, and the S/C adds 80hp, the total is 340. Given its a 5spd, parasitic loss is about 25% or 85hp, giving you only 255 at the wheels.

Its possible, but not with that kinda hp. 290hp at the wheels (in an auto) is 390hp CRANK hp.

HP alone (at those levels) are not enough to get those kinda times, but you're on the right track

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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Don in Texas
If the '02 has 260 CRANK hp, and the S/C adds 80hp, the total is 340. Given its a 5spd, parasitic loss is about 25% or 85hp, giving you only 255 at the wheels.

Its possible, but not with that kinda hp. 290hp at the wheels (in an auto) is 390hp CRANK hp.

HP alone (at those levels) are not enough to get those kinda times, but you're on the right track

Don
How much were you pushing on teh bottle when you ran the 12.8?
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by Don in Texas
If the '02 has 260 CRANK hp, and the S/C adds 80hp, the total is 340. Given its a 5spd, parasitic loss is about 25% or 85hp, giving you only 255 at the wheels.

Its possible, but not with that kinda hp. 290hp at the wheels (in an auto) is 390hp CRANK hp.

HP alone (at those levels) are not enough to get those kinda times, but you're on the right track

Don
but it's a 6 speed don!
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 03:59 PM
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yeah wouldn't a 6spd and less loss? More like 16-19%?
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 05:12 PM
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ya that much of a loss sound WAY too high.
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 05:15 PM
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All are manual transmission

`02 Maxima = 260hp crank
`00 Maxima = 222hp crank (180fwhp?)
`00 Maxima + SC + mods = 300fwhp?

`02 Maxima + SC + speculation = 270fwhp?

I don't think so...

`02 Maxima + SC + mods + speculation = 330fwhp?

Maybe, but I seriously doubt it without traction...

6-speed losses should be similar to 5-speed losses unless Nissan has a radically more efficient 6-speed design.
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 06:06 PM
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Drivetrain loss for a 6spd celica is about 15-16%
151hp/180hp

Originally posted by DaEnigma
yeah wouldn't a 6spd and less loss? More like 16-19%?
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
my maxima already runs 12's
and to all you guys betting him, you will lose your drinks...cuz hes talkin about 1/8th mile, hahaha

just playin wit ya sprint...
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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 06:11 PM
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I think you need more than JUST a SC to get 12's.......
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 06:14 PM
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yeah, like a serious diet...our 3400-ish pound cars (loaded w/ driver, ect) need to lose a lot or gain 2 turbos ala the 300zx to be serious reliable 12 second monsters...

casey
Old Jun 15, 2001 | 07:02 PM
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One thing you have to relize,is the more power you start with ,the more you gain from the SC. A example of this is 95-99 80 hp gained at crank,00-01 95 hp, so supercharged 2002 in my estimate will get 115 more at crank which will bring power to 375 without any other mods!

I do know that a new 6 spd corvette with 350 at crank puts 275 @wheels. I dont believe 2002 front drive max will lose as high as a percent.
Old Jun 16, 2001 | 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88



i'll second that bet!
Dmb, have you graduated from smokin' blunts?

Old Jun 16, 2001 | 08:06 AM
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That's funny, I asked him the same exact thing last night.
Old Jun 16, 2001 | 09:42 AM
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ya this stuff is way better!!
Old Jun 16, 2001 | 12:46 PM
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I thought some dude came up with teh conclusion that the SC will not work with the new 2k2 VQ.
Old Jun 16, 2001 | 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by LoveSick
I thought some dude came up with teh conclusion that the SC will not work with the new 2k2 VQ.
they said it might not work IF it's just a bored out 3L VQ. we have yet to see any of what the engine will be and i'm sure someone will make a S/C if this is the case.
Old Jun 17, 2001 | 06:37 AM
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yeah, like a serious diet...our 3400-ish pound cars (loaded w/ driver, ect) need to lose a lot or gain 2 turbos ala the 300zx to be serious reliable 12 second monsters...

casey
Actually, my curb weight on my title, is only about 3007 lbs.

I believe that it is definitely possible to run 12s. Of course it can only be done with a ****load of work. I hope to cross that mark eventually.
Old Jun 17, 2001 | 11:50 AM
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Actually, my curb weight on my title, is only about 3007 lbs.

I believe that it is definitely possible to run 12s. Of course it can only be done with a ****load of work. I hope to cross that mark eventually.
Your weight is good, i dont know how but my weight reads 2895 lbs.
Was that you parked next to me at crossgates two days ago?
Old Jun 17, 2001 | 01:39 PM
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A little math:

260 hp at crank +
80 hp supercharger +
15 hp y-pipe and intake (assuming potential still exists) =

355 hp crank * 85% (15% loss) = 301.75

That's pretty easy math with no NOS.

As for traction - well I'm betting that the LSD will help tons and that the wheels will be wider than 7 inches and come with wider tires.

Right now, I think it is pretty accepted that a 2k 5spd with intake/y puts down around 200-205 to the wheels and should run high 14s/ mid to high on a good day / and 14.38 (madmax2k) on an insane day. Only that high because of crappy 60ft times and the inability to use all the hp at the top end because it is at redline.

Now, assuming that on the 2k2, we should see 220 to the wheels stock, with a peak hp at a more useful point (i.e. not at redline) so that it can be fully utilized - the 2002 ought to be running low 14s stock when driven well. If the ypipe and intake mods are available, it might be possible to break into the 13s without a supercharger on a good day.

I think the 2k2 has my attention.
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