I used the spray can version of anti-squeal the last time I did my brakes. I sprayed some on the back of the pad and the back of the shim, then put the shim on the pad. I then appied the anti-squeal to the back of the shim (the part that comes in contact with the caliper). Well, I have squeal again.

I assume the application was too thin (though I sprayed it twice). Last night, I picked up version of anti-squeal that you spread like peanut butter.

Where should I apply? (between pad and shim or just to the back of the shim where it will contact the caliper)

Also, do I need to remove all the old anti-squeal that I sprayed on?

 

A scraper, like putty knife, works for taking off the old gunk. I stopped using that AntiSqueel stuff and instead use hi pressure, hi temp red grease.

Jae

 

From what i hear, you are supposed to apply the anti-squeal to the outside of the shims. When doing my brakes, I did it the 'wrong' way and put it between the shims and pads.

 

Interesting how a brake hardware kit or pads from the dealership don't include anti-squeel grease, but they'll include other grease for the sliding pins.

Really, forget the anti-squeal stuff and instead get silicone based anti-seize grease. This's what you want:


Jae

 

For the rear brakes, I eliminated the brake pad shims altogether and used anti-squeal compound on the back of the pads=no squeal! If you use the shims, apply anti-squeal on the shims, not in between the shims and pads.

 

Well, I tried the high temp grease the first time I did my front brakes. That only stopped the squeal for about 5k miles (maybe less). The second time I took the brakes off, I applied the anti-squeal aerosol to the back of the brakes and the inside of the shim. It stopped the squeal for about 5k miles.

After this thread, I took the pads off again. Anti-squeal was still on the pads and inside shim. I applied two coats to the back of the shim, thinking the noise was being transmitted through the caliper. 500 miles later it is squealing again...worse this time.

I have Axxis pads which seem to be the issue. When looking at the brakes this last time, the anti-squeal seems to have sealed the shim to the pad pretty good. Would soaking them in brake cleaner dissolve this allowing me to remove the shim? How much are new shims from the dealer?

 

Eeek. Which Axxis pads? Tell me they arent the Ultimates.

 

To be honest I can't remember, it was there mid-grade pads (not top or bottom grade).

 

<-- will never buy ultimates again. I wasn't happy with their performance.
Jae

 

So...would soaking the pads in brake cleaner dissolve the anti-squeal allowing me to remove the OEM shim?

How much are new shims from the dealer?

 

You're not gonna need the old shims if u get new ones, so get the old one off any way u can. A knife, blade, or flat screwdriver helps. I don't think brake parts cleaner dissolves the rubbery anti-squeal, but worth a try.
Jae

 

If I buy Hawk pads, do I need to have my rotor turned? Current Axis pads have been on for about 10k miles.

 

Enthusiasts will say change either the rotor, or the pad, but not both at once. Average driver won't notice the difference.

Turn/replace the rotor as necessary. When the pads are out, inspect and measure the rotor and go from there.

Jae

 

Sorry, should have added. The rotors are RTP rotors and are only about 10k miles old as well. I bought them at the same time as the pads.

 

I switched from the anti-squeel blue stuff to high temp grease about 5 years ago too. I used to use the blue stuff with mixed results, but since I've been using the grease, i've had no squeeking problems. Just fixed my '04 Max this weekend. Bought it 4 months ago and the brakes had just been done with OEM pads but nothing was put on the contact spots. I really pay attention to finding all contact spots and put the grease in all those spots. All the auto parts stores sell these little thin packages that are good for one axle or you might need two if you put a lot of grease on each side.

 

i drive alot on dirt roads and i use the orange stuff bought at autozone these helps but i always have to take the car to the car wash and get rid of the extra dirt

 

I found my receipt, the pads are Axxis/PBR Deluxe pads. Any input on these squealing?

 

I contacted Dave Zeckhausen this morning:

http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm

He suggested re-bedding. I'll report back after a few weeks and see how this works.

After re-bedding, I do see pad transfer on the rotors as well as a bluish tint.

 

Does anyone have any experience using BG Stop Squeal on their pads?

 

After the re-bedding, the brakes have been silent. 2 weeks now.

I followed the directions and did 60 to 10mph stops about 8 or 10 times. The brakes were quite hot after this but I did note the dark gray transfer of pad material and a slight blue color (meaning the correct heat range had been achieved for bedding).

 

2 months and still quiet.

 

one of the few places to get on the online...search for an hour and ran across this in another forum. www.StopSqueal.com