Dual ram air and true duals? Got me very curious....can't wait to drive it, I may be coming back...hehe

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...cleId=116681#6

 

Ram air is a fallacy.

Dual exhaust is just more weight being carried around.

No clutch pedal, no care.

otherwise, I like it.

 

repost?? and its not really "ram-air" anyway, dual TB's though FTW

 

Well you have to admit that the LED tails do improve handling.

Some say, FWD, no care. Many view the TL that way, as outstanding a vehicle it is....that statement would invalidate every gen of Maxima, 2-6!

 

FWD is for utility. I laugh all winter at BMWs and G35s sitting on the roadside as I drive by through a foot of snow. RWD is more fun, but for a daily driver, FWD is what it has to be if you live in an area that gets snow.

Manual transmission, though, is not debatable

 

Actually, with AWD being so cheap nowadays, probably AWD is the way to go in the winter for most people. It's so taken for granted now, like cable internet. Even among AWD cars, something like a Honda is really FWD biased, and BMW RWD biased.

FWD is in no way, shape, or form advantageous from a performance perspective. The Acura TL has even more HP for 2k7--so what, it already has too much which makes it difficult to mask the torque steer.

Maybe I'll be one of the new G35 owners that you see stuck on the side of the road, as I'd go with the sport RWD model. Not sure about the FWAS though. That baby will smoke a 330i by a second to 60...hehe

 

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REPOST or NOT., LOOKS HOT but like Irish said... No no on the no clutch. Have only ever owned one non-manual car and hated it.

 

I'm not saying I don't like RWD (I own 2 classic TRiumphs, both RWD) or AWD (would love a Subie Impreza RS for autocross)....I'm just saying that cars that claim to be sporty/fast should ALWAYS be offered with a true manual transmission. Would BMW ever offer a mid-size sedan without MT? (I don't know, maybe they do, but I doubt it)

btw....
we stopped in the Maxima during a snowstorm in the W.Va. mountains..
...to help out the BMW that was halfway in the ditch. The driver kept saying "I don't understand, I had traction control on."


We kept on going for 2 more hours and got to the resort with 18" unplowed on the streets. We saw the BMW arriving the next afternoon (he stayed 2 houses down from us, haha)....

I'd love AWD, but there are few AWD cars out there that I really would consider....Maybe a Legacy....

 

bottom line: the day I buy a daily driver in automatic (or auto-manual) will be the day that I'm 90 years old driving a 2062 Lincoln Town Car or something

 

[QUOTE=irish44j]I'm just saying that cars that claim to be sporty/fast should ALWAYS be offered with a true manual transmission. QUOTE]

BMW must have heard you because the M5 only came with SMG last year, and they're putting the clutch back in the 2k7!! Too bad most for most of us that car is not affordable.

Guess Nissan doesn't hear that but then again, think about what the 2k7 Maxima has become....Maxima = no clutch for you!

 

[QUOTE=Frank Fontaine]hell, the Maxima doesn't even have GEARS anymore

In anycase, this will be the first and last maxima I own....I have NO interest in them as they keep getting bigger and boatier. I'll move on to Subaru or BMW or Audi next most likely. Nissan is simply blowing it.

 

I've been saying that for just over a decade now.

 

http://forums.maxima.org/forumdisplay.php?f=77

 

1) fallacy? Technically, no. But completely unnoticeable and nothing really more than an advertising gimmick.

2) I kind of like the idea of true duals, if it has them, instead of an H/X pipe etc, but it is added weight nonetheless.

3) completely agree. I'm a big advocate of a well-designed manual transmission in any car that you want to be fun. I'm getting a little softer to autos, as they're getting much much better, but doubt I'll ever buy one.

Overall, I like it. I like what Nissan is doing to the VQ, and I like what they're doing to the G35. Unfortunately the Maxima is still slowly going in the opposite direction (sorry 6th genners).

 

My last car was a Mitsubishi Diamante LS. The only automatic I have ever owned, besides the large SUV that carries my family most of the time. Comfy leather, nice wood trim, good electronic controls with an Infinity 8-speaker system, but I actually got depressed driving that car, especially coming from a very peppy and nimble B13 SE-R.

My Max is my "happy pill"...

 

Strictly for information on cars that are not Maximas. This Forum should contain technical information and off-topic posts will not be tolerated.

 

What do you guys think of this ?

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=489846

 

slow.........

 

WHAT? H/X pipe is part of true dual exhaust. it balances out the exhaust pulses from each bank, it doesnt split single exhaust into double.

 

I remember reading that tests show that "ram air" dosent start making any real power till about 130 mph and above. any speed below that the intake is just sucking in air as usual.

 

it actually makes 3 more hp at 60mph, read that somewhere, which was not accounted for in the SAE testings

 

i can still smoke you any day of the week though, with 4 people in my car, and 20s

 

revised for factuality relating to morpheus' car of course, not my 2k2

 

not in the twisties you can't

 

only in a straight line

 

that's garbage.....the ram air discussion has been had before and it's always been acknowledged as a marketing gimmick. To compress the air enough to make any difference in performance, it takes a supercharger or turbocharger. Period.

Even the Pontiac forums will admit this...and several Pontiacs have "ram air".

 

wow, 3 comments in a row for my post, thats a record!, about the straight line... just wait till i get my coilovers and 40 series tires(if they fit with the 20s). and then we'll see.

and i dont want to get to out of topic, so let me say that the g35 is sexy man, i still need to hear some clips of how it actually sounds!

 

Actually, if you're auto, we'll be about even. You've got an extra 420lbs and a torque converter to make up for.

'97 5sp: ~7sec 0-60, low 15s
'06 auto: ~7sec 0-60, low 15s

But it's still a Maxima, so I still have love for it. But it's kind of more like a retarded cousin kind of love.
Just kidding.

And yeah, +1 on the sound clips!

 

Not sure about that, the info came from the 10/06 MT. They said 18% better airflow, that number must have come from Infiniti. If you poke around, there is alot to headers and equal length blah blah blah off the manifolds. Sounds like the 2nd gen G35 has a lot of stuff coming from the factory people on the forum have tried to do on their own. My hunch is they did what they could to break the 300 HP barrier--G35 can't be beat on price. But they didn't see the 335 coupe and sedan coming, which is a 300/300 rather than 306/268. List price is unappealing (I see people pre-ordering on the G35 forum sight-unseen at list...DOH!), but if the G35 drops to say 2500 off list, I'll buy one in Feb. or so. At list, there still is compelling argument for the 330i sport pkg because you can get 'em 3k off list now...If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!

 

It's the better airflow that gives the additional power, not the 'ram' effect.

 

Yeah, but if it has better airflow, how is it a marketing gimmick? K&N, which DOES NOT have better airflow once it's been cleaned and reoiled, when compared to brand-new OEM, now that's what I call a gimmick. I went to the G35 forum and I was quite surprised how immature it was. Once again, their cars were better than BMW's. I'm sure there are Nissan owners out there who appreciate their cars for what they are--more value oriented and quite above avg. and ready to take on the best. Not everyone can or is able to spend the money for more than a Maxima or G35. That forum started to imply the 2k7 G35 is better than the BMW 335 twin turbo, claiming the latter has problems! Amazing, seeing as neither car is in the hands of the general public yet!

I do like the G35S and plan on buying one Feb. to Mar. The only thing that could change is through a test drive, or if the dealer wants $500 under list. That would add up to killer depreciation again...made that mistake on the Max, wont do it again.

 

where did you find this info? some have gone low 14's. youd run a low 15 if you stopped at the 60' mark...

 

A good air intake isn't a marketing gimmick. Better flow is well-known. But it has nothing to to with the "ram effect" At automotive speeds, there is not enough to pressurize the air (i.e. "ram air") through the intake, filter, throttle body, and intake manifold. Increasing the flow will help things to allow additional air VOLUME, but the air is not going any faster into the engine with "Ram Air"...you can put a 6' wide scoop on top of the hood and it still won't do anything. It all comes down to how large and free-flowing/turbulence-free the intake piping/TB/IM are..Not saying it doesn't have a good air intake system. Just saying that there is no such thing as "ram air" at the speeds street cars go at.

laughable. The day that Nissan puts out a (non-Skyline GT-R) car that can outhandle any BMW will be...never, as long as Nissan continues to put noodle frames on their cars. Sure, the G might put down more power than some bimmers, but the Bimmers have a huge edge in suspension and chassis performance...

 

Yeah, I'm sure some heavy 20's will really help with that handling. I have 40 series tires on my 18's. Or I could throw on my 16lb track wheels with shaved track tires.

Make sure you're doing more than just coilovers if you want to talk about handling....please

 

A car does not make a driver of of you; you make the car your b***h.
put it this way, it dont matter if you are driving a enzo, i might still be able to beat you(this is a general comment, not talking about you ) ill say its 80%driver and 20% car, when you are comparing apples to appels of course, you cant go out there on a tercel and expect a lot,,,,
and once again nothing personal irish, im just thowing my .02

oh, and by the way, im in love with your avatar shesssss hot!

 

So sorry, maybe I should clarify.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=289125

4th gen: ~7s 0-60, low 15s
6th gen: ~7s 0-60, high 14s
6th gen plus chrome dubs: ~7.5s 0-60, low 15s

"Some" 4th genners have gone mid 14s as well, I was just being realistic. I don't know what you're trying to say with the 60' remark, so I'll just give you a smiley face.

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they're gunmental, TSWs (just in case you were refering to me?),
just for the note, i really dindt feel that much of a difference with the 20s compared to the stock ones. but i've never timed my self, by the time it gets me to get the timer started im allready doing 60, so i really dont know my times

 

True, but with those dubs on there I think it's safe to assume you don't do too much road racing, autoxing or even mountain driving.

Have you?

I don't do any of that shit, but I have watched F&F about 150 times.

 

i do..., but lets say that my cones move at about 50 to 70mph and have 4 wheels, making it even harder.