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Does leaving the ignition on with the engine off hurt the engine or ECU?

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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Does leaving the ignition on with the engine off hurt the engine or ECU?

This is burning my mind, maaan!!

Well, not really... but...

I've read in some old book not to leave the key on engine on but with the engine not actually running (actually on) for long periods of time. So I never do it. But I've seen other people do it, absentmindedly, to listen to the radio.

Does it really hurt our maximas?
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Thorby
This is burning my mind, maaan!!

Well, not really... but...

I've read in some old book not to live the key on engine on but with the enginne not actually running (actually on) for long periods of time. So I never do it. But I've seen other people do it, absentmindedly, to listen to the radio.

Does it really hurt our maximas?
I think you meant "leave" And it kills your battery...until you turn the car back on. I've never heard of it doing anything to the ECU. I wouldnt expect every car company to give you this option if it killed the car.
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Use accessory mode for radio?? that just hurts the battery
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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MMm.. maybe I did not explain myself..

Originally Posted by kcryan
Use accessory mode for radio?? that just hurts the battery
I meant leaving the key on ON (engine not running).

What the factory put in there to listen to the radio is ACCESSORY.

Yes, I can see how listening to the radio in ACCESSORY can run down the battery.

Listening to the radio with the switch in ON, however, is different and it activates the computer.

The ignition switch has this order: 1. OFF 2. ACCESSORY 3. ON 4. IGNITION
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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haha weren't you the guy that posted that thread about driving over 3k rpms kills your car!?!?!?
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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your questions are incredible....


by incredible i mean incredibly stupid....
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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yes, and i meant why not just use accessory?
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by succamadeek
your questions are incredible....


by incredible i mean incredibly stupid....
Ok no need for that....

Anyway I still say no. I mean the ecu is on when the car is running too. That doesnt kill it. I dont know what your reading but I wouldnt worry so much.
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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brother your a newb...not to maximas just cars in general...ill throw ya a stick

leaving the key in "on" or "acc" will only kill the battery. The ecu will take no damage. and as for the driving over 3000 rpm thing please dont ever say that again people will respect you more. if that was true my car would have been dead along time ago along with ALOT others.....think about that..
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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He's talking about leaving the car Idle.

Yea, its not that good.
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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I wouldn't see why it would hurt the ECU... that's how you are supposed to diagnose your car, reset the ecu... all on "On" mode... the only thing I would see is the life of your dash lights ( CEL, handbrake,belt, etc...) would have a shorter life then expected
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by shadyonedeath
He's talking about leaving the car Idle.

Yea, its not that good.
No he's not talking about leaving the car idle. He's talking about turning the key to the on positon and not turning the car over just for power.....window control, radio, wipers, etc. Why the hell would it be bad to keep the car at idle?! How does that make sense?
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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I have the key in the on position while I am cleaning the inside of my car, so I don't have to hear the buzzer. That takes around 45 minutes. Nothing wrong yet.

I keep the key in the accesory position when i wash my car to listen to the cd player. That takes a little more than an hour.

So no, I don't think it will hurt the ECU or anything. THe only thing I see it hurting would be draining the battery. Just make sure you start it up after a while to 'recharge' the battery.
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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You have 5-star threads...
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Holy crap howd u do that^
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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HAHAHA i love this guy... he brightens up my day... this forum use to be boring until u came along Throby... ur like that guy that got into a frat just cause... no benefit to it and no harm can be done from u joining...

the answer is no, it won't harm ur ECU OR ur engine...

I vote to string whoever voted yes up and beat them with a broken stick.
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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Wow, that is HUGE.
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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^ thats what she said....couldnt resist
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by matts95max
haha weren't you the guy that posted that thread about driving over 3k rpms kills your car!?!?!?
Yeah he is
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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The idea that you shouldn't leave your key on (in run position) with your engine off comes from the past when cars had actual ignition coils, points, etc... The thought was that it would kill the coil to leave it hot all the time. Now that every car known to man has a computer that controls everything, it doesn't matter except for draining the battery. My '69 Mustang has actual points, condenser and a coil and I have never left the key on it for that reason.
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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wow, I wonder what ancient car book he's reading all these things from?!?!
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Nah, just kills ur batt
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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ethnic6 wow, I wonder what ancient car book he's reading all these things from?!?!
That why I said "The thought was" meaning that was the common thought at that time. I actually heard it from an auto shop teacher in high school...
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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Leaving the key on engine off in the old days could burn up the points but that was about it. I've had quite a few dem dere cars with points.
Old Sep 17, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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The blue face is disgusted with this thread.
Old Sep 17, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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yes, the almighty blue face has deemed this thread a bore... it is no longer entertained...
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ethnic6
wow, I wonder what ancient car book he's reading all these things from?!?!
i heard it from my dad back in the day....

I know i'm a newb here, but i'm not a newb to cars. I had the same thought a couple of days ago, but i figured with computers and OBD that it wasn't an issue now adays, looks like i was correct.
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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You're a newbie to A32's, bottom line, and it IS a car, so in that sense you're a newbie to THIS car.
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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But why do people keep voting yes
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Hurts your battery...
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Oh well yeah but I thought his question was just about the engine/ecu its kind of obvious it will drain the battery...
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
You're a newbie to A32's, bottom line, and it IS a car, so in that sense you're a newbie to THIS car.
sure it is a car, but it used to be a universal issue, now i believe it is not a universial issue, my jeep is probably the same way, i just didn't know, blah blah blah.
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cdg2125
No he's not talking about leaving the car idle. He's talking about turning the key to the on positon and not turning the car over just for power.....window control, radio, wipers, etc. Why the hell would it be bad to keep the car at idle?! How does that make sense?
LOL



<-- I'm the one in blue.

In any literature that you read about how often to change the oil (including the Hanes manual) it says to change it more often if the user has a habit of idling the car to long. I supposed that meant the engine has a harder time just sitting there at 900 rpms for exagerated lengths of time.

Off topic.. but whatever anyway... (NOT! )
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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My goodness! A good (even flameless) reply!!

And now, aside from the flaming, the ACTUAL solution to the question:
Originally Posted by WasatchY2KMax
The idea that you shouldn't leave your key on (in run position) with your engine off comes from the past when cars had actual ignition coils, points, etc... The thought was that it would kill the coil to leave it hot all the time. Now that every car known to man has a computer that controls everything, it doesn't matter except for draining the battery. My '69 Mustang has actual points, condenser and a coil and I have never left the key on it for that reason.
Originally Posted by Dave H.
I have the key in the on position while I am cleaning the inside of my car, so I don't have to hear the buzzer. That takes around 45 minutes. Nothing wrong yet.

I keep the key in the accesory position when i wash my car to listen to the cd player. That takes a little more than an hour.

So no, I don't think it will hurt the ECU or anything. THe only thing I see it hurting would be draining the battery. Just make sure you start it up after a while to 'recharge' the battery.
There ya go.


I thought it would damage the coils or something, but your cases proves your point.
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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So the 32 other posts didnt help you understand?
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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So the 32 other posts didnt help you understand?
Mm ok.. time to close this thread.
Old Sep 19, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Thorby
Mm ok.. time to close this thread.
LOL its ok Thorby just dont keep reading 40 year old car manuals
Old Sep 19, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by matts95max
haha weren't you the guy that posted that thread about driving over 3k rpms kills your car!?!?!?
I belive he asked if its bad to go over 2k rpms, not 3, 3k rpms will rip the engine into pieces, and you will throw a rod.
Old Sep 19, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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Mm ok.. time to close this thread.
Hey I didnt mean that in an a$$hole way either! Sorry it looked like that how it was read. But yeah close the thread haha
Old Sep 19, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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I wonder what poll he's going to post next... Lets see, we've had, 'does accelrating at 3000rpm harm your engine' and this thread here... I forsee:

1)Does putting your car in reverse for more than 2 seconds kill your transmission?

2)I've recently been forced to slow the car down rather quickly, so I've started using the brake pedal instead of just turning the car off and opening the windows for extra drag until the car coasts to a stop. Is this bad for my brakepads?

and finally..

3) Does my posting of these great polls demonstrate my hightened level of intelligence and car know-how?

Just messin with ya Thorby but seriously... come on... are you for real?



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