Clutchnet Chatter
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Joined: Feb 2001
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From: Northern Jersey
Clutchnet Chatter
Well I only have about 30 Miles on my clutch, I know i know, not alot. Should I expect this Chattering to go away ?? Its grabbing a bit high, so I need to get under there and adjus it. I really wanna know if the chatter will subside. The entire car shakes when I release in first gear.
Im Using the Clutchnet 6 puck Sprung Hub, Red PP and Brand NEW Fidanza Flywheel Insatalled Perfectly.
Im Using the Clutchnet 6 puck Sprung Hub, Red PP and Brand NEW Fidanza Flywheel Insatalled Perfectly.
Mine didnt have much chatter at first, then it developed some chatter after getting gripper and now after a few thousand miles it has gotten a lot better.
It will eventually get better so dont worry about it. A clutch like this is going to have some chatter so dont be disappointed it some of its still there after break in.
It will eventually get better so dont worry about it. A clutch like this is going to have some chatter so dont be disappointed it some of its still there after break in.
My clutch chatter is totally dependent upon my driving technique. It can be driven so that there is no chatter whatsoever but my natural driving technique - which I developed and became ingrained in me long before I ever had this clutch - is one that produces chatter. If I want to avoid the chatter I have to make a conscious effort to.
Originally Posted by Nealoc187
My clutch chatter is totally dependent upon my driving technique. It can be driven so that there is no chatter whatsoever but my natural driving technique - which I developed and became ingrained in me long before I ever had this clutch - is one that produces chatter. If I want to avoid the chatter I have to make a conscious effort to.
It's enough clutch to hold whatever any supercharged maxima is going to throw at it. There are more extreme clutches (ACT Maxx Xtreme and ACT Xtreme) but those are total overkill for any supercharged max... unless you're putting down upwards of 400wtq you don't need those.
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Joined: Feb 2001
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From: Northern Jersey
Im going to call Clutchnet tomorrow. Im getting a real lot of chatter of the clutch Im beginning to wonder. It chatters so much, its like something is loose in the front end...
I really hope this chatter goes away
-matt
I really hope this chatter goes away
-matt
Basic questions I know but, did you do the install? If so, did you re-surface the flywheel? Did you clean it afterwards? I mean, did you REALLY clean it, like a whole damn can of brake cleaner and that before you even started installing it clean? Wear clean gloves during the install? Clean the hell out of even a brand new flywheel? Reason I ask, even a little bit of oil or contamination on the surface can cause your clutch to chatter. I think you just need to break it in some more. I had an ACT chatter on me for the first 500 miles or so before it finally calmed down.
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Joined: Feb 2001
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From: Northern Jersey
I did the install myself, next to my macanic at his shop.
Brand NEW Fidanza flywheel that I did clean. I wore Clean Gloves as well and was SUPER carfull 100%
-matt
Brand NEW Fidanza flywheel that I did clean. I wore Clean Gloves as well and was SUPER carfull 100%
-matt
Check out this clutch 101 info
http://www.m24x.com/clutch101.htm
CLUTCHNET
Located in El Monte, CA, it's owned by a Russian family and has been in business for 40 years. They are probably the biggest and best aftermarket disc manufacturer. They make discs for everything from Audi to VW. Their pressure plates are Valeo brand units which I don't like. Also their friction pads are too soft and will eat your flywheel and pressure plate
http://www.m24x.com/clutch101.htm
CLUTCHNET
Located in El Monte, CA, it's owned by a Russian family and has been in business for 40 years. They are probably the biggest and best aftermarket disc manufacturer. They make discs for everything from Audi to VW. Their pressure plates are Valeo brand units which I don't like. Also their friction pads are too soft and will eat your flywheel and pressure plate
Try and rev it up while you let the clutch out. IT will have more momentum and will grab alot smoother. I think you should drive it for a while. When driving down shift so that the rpms will be in the 3500 range so it will be smooth. I think that will help wear in the clutch faster
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From: Northern Jersey
Well it chatters bad if I let it grab at say 1000 rpms and alot smoother if I do it up around 2000. I can really feel alot of grabbing feel in the clutch pedal. Like I can "feel" it grabbing and going.
-matt
-matt
That's the same thing mine does. That's just how puck clutches are for the most part. If you want the torque holding capacity it's a compromise you have to make. Otherwise you can try a much heavier pressure plate and a full disk, but then that has it's own driveability issues because the clutch pedal is so much heavier.
Originally Posted by Nealoc187
I'd like to know who's got this clutch with no chatter because the only two I have experience with (mine and mikes) both had chatter. It's just something I've learned to live with.
My clutchnet chattered like crazy for a while but after about 1200-1500 miles it went away completely.
Mine never chatters now - I can't even seem to be able to MAKE it chatter.
Give it some time Matty - it will go away.
Mine never chatters now - I can't even seem to be able to MAKE it chatter.
Give it some time Matty - it will go away.
My last clutch was the same clutchnet 6 puck. Chattered alot for me too.
Today, just got installed brand new SPEC clutch. I would highly recommend these. It feels sooo much smoother compared to the clutchnet. And will be much easier to drive. I would never go back to clutchnet.
Today, just got installed brand new SPEC clutch. I would highly recommend these. It feels sooo much smoother compared to the clutchnet. And will be much easier to drive. I would never go back to clutchnet.
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I like the clutchnet so far. I have about 100 miles on it so far, havent been driving all that much, and it definetly feels alot better then it did. We'll how it is after 1000 or so miles.
-matt
-matt
Originally Posted by max_speed97
My last clutch was the same clutchnet 6 puck. Chattered alot for me too.
Today, just got installed brand new SPEC clutch. I would highly recommend these. It feels sooo much smoother compared to the clutchnet. And will be much easier to drive. I would never go back to clutchnet.
Today, just got installed brand new SPEC clutch. I would highly recommend these. It feels sooo much smoother compared to the clutchnet. And will be much easier to drive. I would never go back to clutchnet.
I don't think I have ever been a car with a puck clutch and it not chatter. I've been in EVOs Hondas mustangs, and my Maxima, and thaey all have a small amount of chatter. What kind of condition are your motor mounts in? If the mounts are boogered up and don't hold the motor well that just multiplies the problem.
Choary
Choary
Well i have Mike's old car, and it's the first manual I ever drove so i don't really have a stock clutch to compare it to. I thought the chatter was just me, but i can see that it's partly me as well as the clutch after some research. I did notice a groan from the car twice when cold, couldn't really tell you exactly what that is but i don't detect any problems from it. As for chatter...yes there is chatter but really iv'e noticed it only happens when i'm doing something to cause it not so be a smooth start basically. If i were you i would focus on exactly what you're doing as you shift..and switch it up a bit to see what eliminates the chatter.
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From: Northern Jersey
Update Question:
Im still getting a chatter that shakes the car pretty voilently every once and a while but I only really have about 400-500 on the clutch.
One other thing, I am getting a mone/grind when I first start off after the cars been sitting. Its like a cold start moan. Should this go away?
-matt
Im still getting a chatter that shakes the car pretty voilently every once and a while but I only really have about 400-500 on the clutch.
One other thing, I am getting a mone/grind when I first start off after the cars been sitting. Its like a cold start moan. Should this go away?
-matt
Originally Posted by matty
Update Question:
Im still getting a chatter that shakes the car pretty voilently every once and a while but I only really have about 400-500 on the clutch.
One other thing, I am getting a mone/grind when I first start off after the cars been sitting. Its like a cold start moan. Should this go away?
-matt
Im still getting a chatter that shakes the car pretty voilently every once and a while but I only really have about 400-500 on the clutch.
One other thing, I am getting a mone/grind when I first start off after the cars been sitting. Its like a cold start moan. Should this go away?
-matt
I think im getting the same mone sound, but mine is worse. It does it only during engagement when starting off. It gets kinda better after warming up but it still might do it. Recently I swapped out a few trannies (bad trannys), I replaced the throwout bearing thinking that was the problem but the sound was still there. One of the times I put a light amount of grease where the throwout bearing contacts the pressure plate and I think that might have been the time when the noise went away. The last trans that I put in, I didnt grease that point and now I have to deal with that stupid noise again. I guess its the pressure plate causing the noise, so I might just replace it with an ACT and keep the 6 puck. Damn noise makes my car sound like a piece of ****...
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Mine only moans on the first engagment after I start the car in the morning, and usually if the car sits during the day, it will moan every first start. It goes away after that first 2 engagments.
The clutch really still chatters alot. Seems to be really bad chatter if I rev it up past 1200 to try and get a smooth start off. Seems like there is a sweet spot right around 1000-1100 where its nice and smooth. Seems like if Im in a rush to go somewhere, and I start the car and take off, I CANT get a smooth engagment. And sometimes 2nd is smooth and sometimes its VERY chattery engagment. Its very hit or miss every single time.
Hope it gets better
-matt
The clutch really still chatters alot. Seems to be really bad chatter if I rev it up past 1200 to try and get a smooth start off. Seems like there is a sweet spot right around 1000-1100 where its nice and smooth. Seems like if Im in a rush to go somewhere, and I start the car and take off, I CANT get a smooth engagment. And sometimes 2nd is smooth and sometimes its VERY chattery engagment. Its very hit or miss every single time.
Hope it gets better
-matt
Originally Posted by matty
Mine only moans on the first engagment after I start the car in the morning, and usually if the car sits during the day, it will moan every first start. It goes away after that first 2 engagments.
The clutch really still chatters alot. Seems to be really bad chatter if I rev it up past 1200 to try and get a smooth start off. Seems like there is a sweet spot right around 1000-1100 where its nice and smooth. Seems like if Im in a rush to go somewhere, and I start the car and take off, I CANT get a smooth engagment. And sometimes 2nd is smooth and sometimes its VERY chattery engagment. Its very hit or miss every single time.
Hope it gets better
-matt
The clutch really still chatters alot. Seems to be really bad chatter if I rev it up past 1200 to try and get a smooth start off. Seems like there is a sweet spot right around 1000-1100 where its nice and smooth. Seems like if Im in a rush to go somewhere, and I start the car and take off, I CANT get a smooth engagment. And sometimes 2nd is smooth and sometimes its VERY chattery engagment. Its very hit or miss every single time.
Hope it gets better
-matt
Im gonna install mine in next week and suck's to hear what you go thru matty. I really hope it gets better and that mine doesnt do as much chatter.
What are the full disk with heavy PP clutch options? Links?
I have no issue pushing harder, but have ZERO desire to go back to a chatter SOB clutch that requires reving close to 2k rpms in first for smooth engagement (did that for 70k miles).
I am only looking for a max of ~300whp (torque probably less than 350).
I have no issue pushing harder, but have ZERO desire to go back to a chatter SOB clutch that requires reving close to 2k rpms in first for smooth engagement (did that for 70k miles).
I am only looking for a max of ~300whp (torque probably less than 350).
All of this **** in your car is made to run at hot temps right..? well let it warm up then drive it! And if you hit the sweet spot every time then there will be no sound. Plus you said it only does it once when cold...Maybe Im missing the point here or you guys have turned into whinny bi+ches! Maybe something is bent! Upon removing my timing ring ( the plate/disc that has teeth on it that bolts onto the flywheel) from the old motor some teeth got bent and caused it to make a noise when engaiging the clutch... Or maybe its just the clutch disc rubbing up against the pressure plate which is not broke in/ seated or whatever you want to call it. If it just a rubbing noise I would ignore it and drive after proper warm up meaning to full operating temps.
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From: Northern Jersey
Originally Posted by vortechpower
Maybe Im missing the point here or you guys have turned into whinny bi+ches! .
I Pmed IANSW about this issue cause I remember he tore his trans off beacuse of this similar noise...His clutch made this moaning sound for about 4K miles and stopped completley chattering after 2k miles. If you would contribute anything to these threads that you post up to, I would listen to you...but since you post up garbage, then I wont listen. I spent $425 on this clutch, Just making sure its not defective.
-matt





