I lowered my car on kyb gr-2's and tein s tech's. I was looking at the rear wheels and they are cambered in alot and I was wondering if I can buy a camber kit and use it in the rear. When I has the wheel off I was looking around and I didnt see anywhere that you could use a camber kit in there and also I didnt see any stock parts in there that you can adjust the camber with. What should I do?

 

there are no stock camber adjustments. You can use bolts or the hard-to-find Stillen camber plates ($$).

Or you could switch to better springs that don't ruin the suspension geometry like the S-techs do, and will have superior handling and ride qualities.

EDIT: didn't realize he was only talking about the rear.

 

well I want to keep the setup I have. if i got the bolts where would they go?

 

See I want to get the wheels to sit straight and then I want to get wheel spacers

 

EDIT: didn't realize he was only talking about the rears....

they go where all camber bolts go....they replace the two spindle-to-strut bolts in the front suspension.

there is NO rear camber adjustment available at all, unless you bend the beam. If you don't know what that is, you definitely should not do it

if your rear camber is off, there is something wrong with your car, because spring height should have no effect on rear camber at all...

 

I have no idea what you mean...should I assume you want the Dodge SRT8 wheels? If so, have you checked the offsets and lug patterns for compatibility?

 

I think he means Straight in the Wells. Not Angled like they are.
People need to learn that Numbers don't replace letters...

 

at first I too thought he was talking about the srt-8 wheels.
Isnt it str8? ha ha ha ha

 

I approve this thread...

 

So there is nothing that can be done to correct the rear alignment?

I always thought that when you lower your car the top of the wheels camber in?

 

Since I have done over several thousand alignments I will chime in. The rear alignment is adjusted through shims. If you align the front toe and camber without correcting the rear you will only cause more harm than good to your tires. I highly recommend you get a proper alignment done. Shims will need to be replaced in the rear. Luckily for me my alignment was still perfect in the rear and I just did the front.

 

what kind of shims do i need and where do they go?

 

haven't found anything yet. I will keep searching. More than likely they will need to be purchased from the dealership. You might be able to install them. I haven't done shims in a while because I am lazy and it consumes too much of my time.

 

oh ok thank you

 

all max's that i have seen do this including mine. at first i was like but i drove up too the dealer and they said the camber was factory set. i *****ed enough that they checked it and it was within factory specs.

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....52#post4862652

 

both of my rear wheels look like that

 

it's not increased camber.....it's just the wheels inside the wheelwells...

I'm still not sure how you would intend to "shim" the rear suspension. It is a torsion beam, after all. It's one piece and there is no place to ship.

Shimming is for cars with IRS....which we do not have.

 

And your point is? It's a beam, so it will straighten both of them. Rear beam = connected to both rear wheels

 

are you talking to me?

I'm getting confused here. He is asking about camber, not toe. I am wondering how one can magically adjust rear camber with 'shims.' I do not believe it can be done any way other than bending the beam.

obviously rear toe could theoretically be shimmed, though I've never heard of anyone actually having a problem with rear toe on the Maxima...

 

The only way to adjust rear suspension alignment on our cars is by bending the beam. Unfortunetly, there's no way around it.

 

Irish... Look at the times posted.. Physically impossible to have been talking to you.. .. It was intended for the OP.

 

are you asking about alignment (generally referencing toe) or camber specifically?

This is true on cars with independent suspension. Maximas have it in the front, but not in the back.

 

with the wacky org clock, anything is possible

 

okay so if you are saying lowering the rear of a maxima wont make your wheels camber like that what caused mine to do that>?

 

wrong... it is shimmed. shims look like metal discs. They are a certain thickness. Over time they were out; causing the alignment to go out of spec.

 

where do the shims go in the rear suspension?

 

cars with Independent rear suspension have toe eccentrics, or tie rods in the rear. Some vehicles have NO rear camber/toe adjustments in the rear. In which case shims would be needed. A good example of this is the majority of RWD vehicles. Such as the RWD vehicles with axles. RWD vehicles with a solid rear have no adjustments at all. I will take a shim from work tomorrow and post up a picture of it for you guys so you understand what I am talking about. And yes Irish I have seen maximas with ****ed up rear ends. Anything is possible if you hit a pot hole hard enough, and are able to bend a wheel and destroy your tire.

 

I will try and get my car up on the alignment rack in the near future. For the time being I suggest you go to a place near you and get your alignment checked. Most places will check your alignment for free if you actually do the alignment. If you don't they will more than likely charge you around 20 dollars.

 

oh ok. also is they a reason why my rear alignment is so bad?

 

show on this diagram where the magical shims go....I don't see them listed anywhere on alldata.

 

listen man....everyone here knows WHAT a shim is.....you have yet to explain where you are inserting this shim on the Maxima rear suspension to affect CAMBER, which is what we are talking about here.


Why are you talking about bending wheels and tires now? I realize that the rear suspension components can be bent - but I am still unclear as to where you think you can shim the rear beam/hub assembly to affect camber. It is one solid piece.

 

absoundlab, I see that you are in Atl area. Why don't you take your car to one of "Butler Tire" around Atl for a proper alignment. They been known for very good service, especially for modified cars. Maybe they will find your problem.

here's the website for locations:

http://www.butlertire.com/

 

he doesn't HAVE a problem. 99% chance the camber on his rear wheels is exactly the same now as it was before he was lowered. but since they're sitting up in the wheel wells now, it creates a visual distortion making it look like they have more negative camber, which is not the case.

look at this picture. The wheel does not appear to have any significant amount of negative camber from what i can tell.



Butler Tire may be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but they still won't be able to make any camber adjustments on the rear of his car....because it can't be done without bending the beam

 

no trust me if you look at it in person you can see there is an ton of neg. camber. i'll hold a t square up to the wheel tomor. and take a picture.

 

It's possible that the camber is off (non of us can tell for sure) but, lowering the car (this particular car) makes absolutely no affect on rear camber. So either everything is fine or something is bent.

 

correct. the whether it's good or not, the s-techs had nothing at all to do with it.

 

the rear is lowered on kyb gr2's and coilovers that are lowered all the way

 

It makes not difference, even if you had air suspension.

Take the car to an alignment shop and ask them to check if the camber is within specs. If it's not withing specs you should start looking for bent parts.

 

I am one of the few unlucky ones. My previous owner probably slammed a curb or giant pothole pretty hard according to over 5 diff guys now that have checked my alignment. The toe on my drivers rear side is off by almost 2 full * and apparently you can shim to TRY to solve the problem. However the most informative guy that I talked to about it said that it would be a waste of time and money b/c it would then affect the brakes...unevenly wearing down the rotor. I have no idea though so he could have been blowing smoke up my a$$. To really fix the problem you need to replace the entire rear assembly apparently.

By the way if anyone has or can allocate these parts for me that would be pretty sweet. BlackbirdVQ had an assembly he would have sold me a while back but I didn't have the cash for it at the time. Everywhere locally wants to rape me...

-Kevin