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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Stage 1 of VG auto swap. question about a part

I started my vg auto to vg 5 speed swap today. I ordered any missing bolts I need from Nissan, that will be coming this week.

I got the parts I needed plus one. There is a piece that looks like a flat square shaped metal box about 1/2" deep that has metal brake lines coming out of it. The middle of the line is curved into an oval shape to compact the excess line, the two ends of one of the lines connect to the box and there are two other holes on the other side of the box for the metal brake lines. What is that piece for? I checked the chiltons, but I don't see anything in there about that box. I did search, but couldn't find anything.

I completed the first major task of drilling the holes for the master cylinder, mounted the clutch pedal. It pays to have a Dremel rotary tool.

If anyone knows what that piece is for and where its supposed the go in the engine bay or if I need it at all. Please let me know. I took pics of the piece but my digi cam is acting up.

Thanks guys. Happy New Year
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Edit:wrong answer..
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Nevermind the previous post,i just realized what you are talking about...I am pretty sure the part you are refering to is a dampening valve of some sort,it would serve to soften the pedal feel...or something like that..
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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nope, its not the master cylinder or the slave cylinder. From the top it square with a 90 degree section cut off at one of the corners.
this is a crude diagram of it from the top hope it helps. how do you post a pic on a thread?

! <----brake line
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!--!--------- !
! ! ! ___
! ! ! _________
! ! ! \
! ! ! \
!--!-------------- / <---- brake line
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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damn that diagram ddidn't work. I think might be that. how come it not in the chiltons. do you k0now where and how to connect it?
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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I can get you some pics of mine tomorrow[dark now] to give you an idea of how it is routed..
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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MyGreenMax94-thanks man. have a happy new year. did you do the 5sp conversion on your max? If you did, did the flat part of the clutch pedal where you step sit about a 1/2 inch out of line with the flat part of the brake pedal? Mine does. I used 1 1/2 in. spacers between the firewall and the clutch pedal. will that affect the clutch disengaging fully?
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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MyGreenMax94-thanks man. have a happy new year. did you do the 5sp conversion on your max? If you did, did the flat part of the clutch pedal where you step sit about a 1/2 inch out of line with the flat part of the brake pedal? Mine does. I used 1 1/2 in. spacers between the firewall and the clutch pedal. will that affect the clutch disengaging fully?

No,my car is a factory 5 speed..

PM org member Maxitech,he has done the swap and could help you way more than i could on this issue....

http://forums.maxima.org/member.php?u=46779


<-----------Hehe 5 grand...
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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http://www.phatg20.net/modules.php?n...ownload&cid=73

nissan fsm. tried to see if there was a picture of it on there but there isnt.

the line he's talking about goes from the clutch master cylinder , bolts to that box, has some orugami under it, then goes to the rubber line to the slave cylinder. hopefully one of the veterans will answer you soon. good luck
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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I understand now. thanks fellas.
Old Jan 1, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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Pics as promised..



Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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that's the part! thanks mygreenmax94.
Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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it's basically a damper for the clutch line, to reduce vibrations felt in the pedal.

bypass it. unnecesary weight. just run the steel line from the clutch master straight into the rubber line on the clutch slave. quick, easy, no adaptors needed.
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Matt93SE- Didn't you say it reduces vibrations felt in the pedal? How much vibrations can be felt in the pedal without it. Is the reduction in vibrations the only reason to put it in?
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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When I swapped, I moved that part then spent the better part of an afternoon bleeding the system. I blame it on that rats nest of lines that exits one end of the cube and goes into the other. This summer I will remove it.
Old Jan 13, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Todamax - how hard was it for you to do the swap? I'm doing mine by myself, do i have to remove the passenger side axle? I want o do the least amount of work as possible.
Old Jan 13, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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u have to remove the axles unless u want to want to wiggle the tranny side to side so that the tranny falls into place with the block and clutch pressure plate. just take off the axles and everything will fall into place. it took me a total of 2 1/2 days to do my swap and like half a day to make my reverse lights work and cruise control. there is a write up about this in the stickies under performance.
Old Jan 13, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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ok no prob. my 5spd trans came with a thin metal plate that is the shape of the trans. Is that the plat that gos behind the flywheel? I goning to try and get it done ia day...with help from above, i'm going to need it. ha ha
Old Jan 13, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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ok no prob. my 5spd trans came with a thin metal plate that is the shape of the trans. Is that the plat that gos behind the flywheel? I goning to try and get it done ia day...with help from above, i'm going to need it. ha ha
Yes,the plate goes between the engine/trans...You must install this piece or you will have problems..
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Matt93SE- Didn't you say it reduces vibrations felt in the pedal? How much vibrations can be felt in the pedal without it. Is the reduction in vibrations the only reason to put it in?

Yup.. it's just a vibration thing. there's absolutely no other reason to have it there. vibrations in my pedal are minimal. only time I feel anything is when I'm revving the crap out of the engine and do a fast shift. I think what I'm feeling is just the slight wobble in the clutch disc on the end of the input shaft of the tranny. not real sure though since you obviously can't see what's flopping around while the tranny is on the car and engine running.

remove the entire block and just run the flexible line straight into the hardline coming from the master cylinder.
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Originally Posted by Nmax92
ok no prob. my 5spd trans came with a thin metal plate that is the shape of the trans. Is that the plat that gos behind the flywheel? I goning to try and get it done ia day...with help from above, i'm going to need it. ha ha
first is the plate and then the clutch kit in front of it and then u can install the tranny and bolt it up to the engine block. enjoy.
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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What I like to do with these kinda problems is go down to my local nissan dealership. Just ask to speak to one of the mechanics for a second,then BAM!! corner them and pick there brain about whatever. I talked the mechanic out of his home number and call this guy only when I am absolutely stuck. He has helped out a bunch. Hope this helps
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