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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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91 SE vs 92 GXE

Well, my 92 GXE's auto tranny decided to stop working @ 198k. I was wanting to do a 5 speed swap, and I've found tons of info on this site for that. But I've found a 91 SE that has a blown head gasket and it has an automatic. It seems like a good deal. The owner says the tranny was replaced 4 months ago, and has other new parts. I'm going to look at it friday.
My question is, between the 2, the engine and trann is the same right? So I should be able to put my 92 engine in the 91 and be good to go. I'm just double checking, I know somebody on here would know. Thanks in advance!


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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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Yup,the engines are the same,trans also...
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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89-91 all max's came with Vg engines...same tranny
92-94 GXE trims came with Vg engines... same tranny
92-94 SE trims came with Ve engines... WAY DIFF

sooo yes i do believe

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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So I should be able to put my 92 engine in the 91 and be good to go.
Hey what a GOOD IDEA! Sorry to sound stupid but I definitely expected you to say "so I can take the 91SE tranny and put it in my 92GXE" but NO! you're upgrading to SE vehicle. But logically you're making the right choice, getting that SE and using your engine. Now you can part out your GXE.
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
Hey what a GOOD IDEA! Sorry to sound stupid but I definitely expected you to say "so I can take the 91SE tranny and put it in my 92GXE" but NO! you're upgrading to SE vehicle. But logically you're making the right choice, getting that SE and using your engine. Now you can part out your GXE.
That was my thought as well, "upgrade" to an SE, even though it's one year older. I still need to see it first, to see the condition it's in. Depending on it's options I'll probably swap things like the digital climate control, but the SE suspention would definately be an upgrade to the GXE. I just wish it was a 5 speed! damn, But I'll keep looking.
I just wanted to make sure there wouldn't be any computer conflicts between the 2 years even though the engine is the same.
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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From what I recall from some guys that have done it, "swapping" the digital climate control is not an easy task. It's not impossible, but it's not like a 15 minute job.
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by creamy
That was my thought as well, "upgrade" to an SE, even though it's one year older. I still need to see it first, to see the condition it's in. Depending on it's options I'll probably swap things like the digital climate control, but the SE suspention would definately be an upgrade to the GXE. I just wish it was a 5 speed! damn, But I'll keep looking.
I just wanted to make sure there wouldn't be any computer conflicts between the 2 years even though the engine is the same.
well top priority is driveability. You can part out enough to pay for a 5speed swap, maybe? I don't know if you're real tight on cash like I am..

The only differences between the engines should be with the VG's ever-evolving EGR system, but Nissan built the my 1990 GXE with a temp sensor that wasn't hooked, and an EGR-BPT that was. 90% of the VGs i've seen don't have the BPT, so that means you have to have the temp sensor hooked up. Fortunately for you, Nissan built all of them with the harness and sensor, (whether the car needed one or not) but if you have a BPT the sensor will not be connected and the harness connector will be present but capped off. If your good 92GXE motor has a BPT but your blown-up 91SE motor has the temp sensor hooked up, you can either just uncap the 92 motor's harness connector and hook it up and pray it works, or you can swap EGR setups. Ask Aaron92SE, he spent a good hour staring (and cursing) at my VG's EGR setup.

a 91 se for sale somewhere. been crashed in front, notice the 92-94 GXE grille... this car has no BPT.

^^that car's engine^^



^^my dirty 90GXE engine, with a BPT valve^^
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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That is one clean engine!
My 92 GXE doesn't have a BPT. I'd like to keep it simple. I think a trans swap would probably be easier. That way I could keep all the good stuff on the GXE and just bolt on the SE stuff... rear disc brake set-up and rear sway bar, isn't that the difference? I appreciate your feedback, that is what is great about this forum! I'll keep you posted...

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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by creamy
That is one clean engine!
My 92 GXE doesn't have a BPT. I'd like to keep it simple. I think a trans swap would probably be easier. That way I could keep all the good stuff on the GXE and just bolt on the SE stuff... rear disc brake set-up and rear sway bar, isn't that the difference? I appreciate your feedback, that is what is great about this forum! I'll keep you posted...

Mark
stuff to steal from the SE:
tranny, whiteface gauges, spoiler (may need to paint it), SE struts (front and rear) because they are stiffer, rear disc brakes (attached to struts.. get new lines though... also remember to take the handbrake cable from the SE), leather covered a/t shifter, and leather-covered steering wheel if your GXE doesn't have an airbag (if your 92 has an airbag that's more important), sway bars, dualtip muffler, and that should be it, and wheels if you want.
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by creamy
That was my thought as well, "upgrade" to an SE, even though it's one year older. I still need to see it first, to see the condition it's in. Depending on it's options I'll probably swap things like the digital climate control, .
Good Luck with that.............

see Craig's site for the write-up...

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would be easier to swap out the taillamps and suspension than do the ACC..
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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yep. Swap the suspention not interior.

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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Yeah, that's what I decided to do, just take off the parts that I need and bolt them on to my 92. I saw the car and it was a POS. The guy said the trans was rebuilt, but he couldn't find the reciept, hmm...
I found another one with a 5 speed and I'm going to see that one tommorow.
Old Apr 2, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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I looked at a 91 SE 5 speed, and it looked ok. It had a leather interior, but it was shot. I opened the hood and there was engine parts all over the place. He said the timing belt broke and he tried to replace it, blah blah blah. there was a nice yellow top optima battery and I think a y-pipe. The guy said he would sell me the 5 speed tran and all the related parts for $350, but I would have to remove it all myself...
I just don't think that's cool. I'll offer $400 for the whole car, does that said like a fair offer?
Old Apr 2, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^
I wouldnt give him no where near $400...Maybe $75-$100..but thats because scrap metal is up around $8.50 per hundred here...
Old Apr 3, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
Ask Aaron92SE, he spent a good hour staring (and cursing) at my VG's EGR setup.
Why would you say I was cursing at your setup? I never cursed.

I was simply looking at your EGR setup and taking notes designing an EGR bypass for the VG if it ever came down to needing one for the spacer kit.
Old Apr 3, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
Why would you say I was cursing at your setup? I never cursed.

I was simply looking at your EGR setup and taking notes designing an EGR bypass for the VG if it ever came down to needing one for the spacer kit.
well not cursing but the complication and diversity of the design was a thorn in your side, since you would have had to go out of your way to make each different kind work and such
Old Apr 3, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
well not cursing but the complication and diversity of the design was a thorn in your side, since you would have had to go out of your way to make each different kind work and such
No, not at all. I came up with a solution that same day. So if people are interested in blocking their EGR on the VG, I can make a kit for that too.
Old Apr 3, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
No, not at all. I came up with a solution that same day. So if people are interested in blocking their EGR on the VG, I can make a kit for that too.
isn't that going to be the really expensive fix, tho? something about asia? wait nevermind i was thinking about the UIM spacer and the problems that was going to cause due to the EGR on cars that had a temp sensor, and now much of a problem that was going to cause in order to get the egr hose to reach down to the intake... that's what it was
Old Apr 3, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
isn't that going to be the really expensive fix, tho? something about asia?
I don't want this thread to get too far off topic. But no, I can make an EGR block plate kit for probably $35.
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