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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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Yooooo Two Codes And Im Mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a 07 02 CEL and a 03 04 CEL. Before you guys say just troubleshoot what they say below I would like to know what usually causes these problems. Like if the 07 02 triggered the knock sensor or vise versa. What should I do or any of you guys have these codes before? I just bought a brand new 02 sensor for behind the cat so I don't think it can be that. I believe the knock sensor is 120k miles old.

Thanks

0702
Diagnostic Trouble Code 0702 points to a problem with the three-way Catalytic Converter.

The Cat is one of the principal components of the emissions control system. The Engine Control Module monitors the signals from the two front Oxygen Sensors and the one rear Oxygen Sensor. The signal frequency of each sensor indicates something about the condition of that sensor. A comparison of the frequency of the front sensors with the rear sensor indicates something about the condition of the Cat.

This malfunction was detected when the ratio of the signal frequency from the right bank front Oxygen Sensor to the signal frequency of the rear Oxygen Sensor exceeded a critical threshold value. This indicates that the Cat does not have enough oxygen storage capacity. The right cylinder bank is also called the rear bank. It is cylinders 1,3,5. Possible causes of this DTC include ...
- Three-way catalyst
- Exhaust tube
- Intake air leaks
- Fuel injectors
- Spark plugs
- Ignition timing
0304
Diagnostic Trouble Code 0304 points to a problem with the Knock Sensor. The KS is attached to the cylinder block. It senses engine knocking using a piezoelectric element. A knocking vibration from the cylinder block is senses as vibrational pressure. This pressure is converted into a voltage signal and sent to the Engine Control Module (The computer).

This malfunction is detected when an excessively high or low voltage from the KS is entered to the ECM. Possible causes include...
- the harness or connector (The KS circuit is open or shorted).
- the KS

The KS may be checked with an ohmmeter.

1) Raise the hood. View the engine from the driver's fender. Look into
the deep valley between the cylinder banks and below the intake manifold.
Identify the KS as a black item fastened to the block by a single vertical
bolt. A wire harness wrapped in black leads toward you, out of the valley.
That is the KS sub-harness.

2) Follow the KS sub-harness to it's nearest connector. This is connector F121.
It is located near the upper right-hand corner of the valve cover of the forward cylinder bank, as viewed from the front of the car.

3) Disconnect F121. You have to do a "press the latch and wiggle and
pull" to disconnect it. F121 has only two pins; if you see more than two
pins, you have the wrong connector. Use a digital ohmmeter capable of
measuring more than 10 Megohms. You want to measure the pins of F121, not
the sockets of the matching connector. Measure the resistance between a
good ground (such as the battery negative terminal) and pin #2 of connector
F121. On my car this is the highest of the two pins, the one closest to
the front of the car. The factory spec is 500 - 620 Kohms.

The manual says you have to remove the intake manifold to replace the KS. However, I think that a person with good dexterity and a 12mm ratcheting box wrench could replace the KS without disturbing the manifold.

Important note: the dealer can do a more thorough test with his CONSULT electronic tester. The resistance test described here is a useful but limited test. A Knock Sensor which fails this test is definitely bad. However, a KS which passes this test is not guaranteed to be good.
Old Apr 1, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Well I would definetly try to fix the first code then see if the knock sensor code is still there...
Old Apr 1, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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my cat is brand new from Budget.

i cleared the codes. hopefully they wont come back up...

what should I do????
Old Apr 1, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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You just cleared the codes, now you wait. If they come back then you must start by replacing o2/ and or knock sensor. In that order. Then after changing o2 reset again and see if you get any more codes. If you do get another code for the knock sensor, replace it.
Old Apr 2, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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replacing o2
My rear o2 Sensor is brand new. I know for sure it isnt that one, but it could be any of the three o2 sensors because the two front ones measure the exhaust and the last one measures the exhaust to make sure all three readings are making sure the cat is operating properly.
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