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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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warpspeed y-pipe question

so i installed the y pipe and i know i was going to get some bees in a can but its pretty bad i was wondering if there was any cure other than time?
Old Jun 20, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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get another y pipe :dunno: don't think anyone has a cure for the bees in a can, unless i'm mistaken
Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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i thought so just checking
Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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yeh i have sum in mine too. i only bought it cause it was $150. can't beat that. at least thats what i think it was.

but i got over it, but still kinda hate it... oh well
Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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To fix it you need to get a new flex section put in.
Old Jun 20, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Bees in a can does not equal 'need a new y-pipe'.
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 99BlackMaxMS
To fix it you need to get a new flex section put in.

its welded, so your saying go through all that trouble of removing the y, cutting the flex and rewelding on the new flex?
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...80&postcount=6 Please read my post.
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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I just ordered the cattman complete system with y-pipe...I hope I do not have this problem.......
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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This is disappointing to hear because I just ordered a Warpseed y-pipe because I was under the impression they didn't really make the bees in a can noise.
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pscmj84
This is disappointing to hear because I just ordered a Warpseed y-pipe because I was under the impression they didn't really make the bees in a can noise.

yea as stated on their website "Y PIPE FEATURES 3" LINED FLEX SECTION TO ELIMINATE BEES IN THE CAN SOUND"

good thing I ordered the cattman instead of the ****ty warpspeed...
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by overbo0st2k4
yea as stated on their website "Y PIPE FEATURES 3" LINED FLEX SECTION TO ELIMINATE BEES IN THE CAN SOUND"
advertising...their known for the bees-in-the-can sound so it makes sense for them to post that their new pipes don't make noise. As NmexMAX stated, you don't need a new pipe to fix the problem. Are you sure its that sound and not a problem with the install? If something is lose it's going to make more noise. Did you check everything or are you positive it's the bees noise?
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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My budget has bees in the can sound as well, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Only time I hear it is when I listen to it, but when driving it's the same as stock. My intake covers up the bees when driving anyway
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Depending on how bad the bees in the can sound is on my new warpspeed y pipe I might try putting exhaust wrap around the flex section.

Anybody else have any luck with exhaust wrap?
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Originally Posted by LTU_max
My budget has bees in the can sound as well, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Only time I hear it is when I listen to it, but when driving it's the same as stock. My intake covers up the bees when driving anyway

not from behind
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pscmj84
Depending on how bad the bees in the can sound is on my new warpspeed y pipe I might try putting exhaust wrap around the flex section.

Anybody else have any luck with exhaust wrap?

it will eventually wear out. and it is more prone to rusting if yours isn't SS, since the wrap locks in moisture and condensation.
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since the wrap locks in moisture and condensation.
What's the difference between the 2?
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
What's the difference between the 2?

1 sounds more sophisticated than the other


* fix: wrap locks in condensation. :
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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But if you coughed up the extra $50 you wouldnt have to worry about it...
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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what bpipe you running and muffler ?
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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i have the warpspeed and it only rattles on startup and shutdown.
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by overbo0st2k4
I just ordered the cattman complete system with y-pipe...I hope I do not have this problem.......
u'll have no problem, cattman is the best for our maximas... which is why its also the most expensive
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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I wish I woulda gone with a Cattman. The Warpspeed I got a couple of months ago has the bees in the can... embarrassing sound = a testament to their quality as this seems common. No response from them when I politely asked about mine... but they were quick to respond to take my money for the sale.
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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what exactly is bees in a can noise. I tried searching for a clip but came up empty.
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by IHAVEA2KMAXIMA
what exactly is bees in a can noise. I tried searching for a clip but came up empty.
it sounds like a lot of loud angry bees... in a can
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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it sounds like a lot of loud angry bees... in a can
I still need a clip to fully understand =P
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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put exhaust wrap to muffle the sound just an idea?
Old Jun 22, 2007 | 04:56 AM
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Well, it seems to be that the flex section of the warpspeed aluminized y-pipe is stainless so you should be able to put exhaust wrap on the flex section without rusting.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1104%26fvi%3D1

Edit: I just looked around on their website and found that header wrap will decrease the life expectancy of either the stainless or the aluminized pipe by 50%.
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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wsp bees in a can

Have any of you who have the "bees in a can" noise with the WarpSpeed Y pipe contacted them to see what can be done? I have one of their y pipes and have never had a proble.
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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They have terrible customer service. I wanted to order their full system exhaust and they told me to call back in 3 weeks because they needed the parts to make them...I called back and they actually stopped making the full systems for the maxima's...
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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so is it better to just get an exhaust wrap or a new flex section to get rid of the noise?
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 06:06 AM
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I got my Warpspeed aluminized y-pipe in the mail last Friday. I'm going to get it installed during my lunch break today.

From what I can tell, the quality looks good. I'm not exactly what you would call a weld inspector though.

I'll let everyone know how it turns out.
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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Screw the welds, it's not equal length, so, already off the bat, it's
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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Just got back from getting it installed...

I have to say I cannot recommend this y-pipe. At about 4k, you start to hear the "hissing" sound (almost like a turbo). Other than that, it sounds like stock. There is more power up top (past 4k).

Since the flex section is stainless steel, I'll probably get some header wrap and see if that quietens the hissing sound. It'll probably be awhile before I get to it though.
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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We have sold over 6,000 Y pipes at last count, typically there is no hissing, but because we use 2.5" tubing which is larger tubing the 2.25" some of the others like stillen and c**man use it may magnify what little exhaust turbulence remains in the lined flex section which is afterall what causes the hissing. The stock Y pipe has a flex section that is not lined but it is 2 inch.

I would check for a gasket misaligned first or a loose bolt, we've seen it happen. If there is a leak there will be soot.

Searching through my email for the last 3 years I found one email referencing bees in a can or hissing. I have not received any phone calls regarding it. My sister Lynne is pretty good about having me return calls and emails. So............... perhaps if there is a problem, email or call us rather than just say we have poor customer service here on the forum because we almost never visit the forums. If you don't call or email there is little chance we will be able to respond to your real or imagined problem but then you probably know that. Amazingly none of the local installs we do ever have a problem.

As far as cat-backs go we decided there was a little bigger market for catbacks for the Nissan Titan, 5.7L Toyota Tundra and Tacoma pickups and right now only make them for the local market.

Referencing the equal length Y pipe comment: We have made several equal length Y pipes but found no difference on the dyno nor did it sound any different than any other unequal length Y pipe we tested, nor did it sound different than the equal length stillen Y pipe we compared it to (but the stillen did have a hiss because the flex was not lined).

They were more labor intensive, we felt that if it did not make a difference there was really no point in making them in numbers.

So, I would check the gasket alignment, personally I would not use header wrap even on stainless because it overheats the metal and will cause the flex section to fail.

regards
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Originally Posted by pscmj84
Just got back from getting it installed...

I have to say I cannot recommend this y-pipe. At about 4k, you start to hear the "hissing" sound (almost like a turbo). Other than that, it sounds like stock. There is more power up top (past 4k).

Since the flex section is stainless steel, I'll probably get some header wrap and see if that quietens the hissing sound. It'll probably be awhile before I get to it though.
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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The hissing comes on suddenly at 4k, and does sound like it could be an air leak around the gaskets. Is that what it sounds like to you Dallas?

When I get a chance, I'll have the shop take another look at it. Hopefully they can fix the problem.

Originally Posted by bmfjeep
We have sold over 6,000 Y pipes at last count, typically there is no hissing, but because we use 2.5" tubing which is larger tubing the 2.25" some of the others like stillen and c**man use it may magnify what little exhaust turbulence remains in the lined flex section which is afterall what causes the hissing. The stock Y pipe has a flex section that is not lined but it is 2 inch.

I would check for a gasket misaligned first or a loose bolt, we've seen it happen. If there is a leak there will be soot.

Searching through my email for the last 3 years I found one email referencing bees in a can or hissing. I have not received any phone calls regarding it. My sister Lynne is pretty good about having me return calls and emails. So............... perhaps if there is a problem, email or call us rather than just say we have poor customer service here on the forum because we almost never visit the forums. If you don't call or email there is little chance we will be able to respond to your real or imagined problem but then you probably know that. Amazingly none of the local installs we do ever have a problem.

As far as cat-backs go we decided there was a little bigger market for catbacks for the Nissan Titan, 5.7L Toyota Tundra and Tacoma pickups and right now only make them for the local market.

Referencing the equal length Y pipe comment: We have made several equal length Y pipes but found no difference on the dyno nor did it sound any different than any other unequal length Y pipe we tested, nor did it sound different than the equal length stillen Y pipe we compared it to (but the stillen did have a hiss because the flex was not lined).

They were more labor intensive, we felt that if it did not make a difference there was really no point in making them in numbers.

So, I would check the gasket alignment, personally I would not use header wrap even on stainless because it overheats the metal and will cause the flex section to fail.

regards
Dallas
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