Can i put a VE auto tranmission on my VG car?

My VG tranny didnt shift once on my ride to work today and pulls out from a stop slowly. I believe its dieing. I have a VE tranny laying around. Can i do it?

 

No you can't

 

Why cant i?

 

The issue might be because, the engines are totally different?

 

Trust us, you asked, we answered. It simply will not work. The transmissions are entirely different. No adapter, no grinding, nothing will allow this to work.

That's why a fairly good VG car is usually totalled when the trans fails, unless you can repair it yourself.

 

Ok,you ready?


1. The VG engine with a automatic trans has a different flexplate than the VE automatic flexplate.(The VE starter needs the VE flexplate)

2. You can't swap the ve flexplate to the vg because the ve crankshaft/flexplate have 8 bolt holes/vs. the vg crankshaft/flexplate having only 6 bolt holes.


3.Summary: Unless you have a custom made flexplate made for your ve so the starter can line up to the flexplate/along with the extra bolt holes on the ve crankshaft,this swap will not work..

 

Sell the ve tranny and get the vg rebuilt, argh kinda costly though. But I guess that depends.

 

Alright, i thought with all the imagination, swaping parts, and the ease of working on these cars that somebody in this forum could do it or has done it. I guess maxima owners can't do it all.

 

It is not a point of anyone in here not being able to do it,it is a point of it would be too much hassle and $$$ to have a custom flexplate designed and built,all for what?An automatic?

Most of the vg members in here just do a manual transmission swap when their auto craps out on them..

 

sure with enough work i'm sure you can fit a powerglide/tremec/etc in your maxima.

tell you what...YOU do it...and let us know how it works out. IF you get it to work we'll congraduate you and you can claim to be the first to do a VG to VE tranny conversion...deal? all the n00bs will bow to your feet, the god of VG to VE tranny swap.

after all you're a maxima owner (like you say)...and if you think we can do it all then go right ahead...we're here rooting for you along the way.

otherwise you can cut the extra BS comments in your posts....remember YOU have the busted car...NOT us.

 

I hope those 10 thousand + other posts you wrote had more meaningful content then the ones you are writing in here.
Its one thing to say you can't do a swap because the transmission is totally different
And its another thing to say you can't do the swap cause you cant.
Tons of other people in here are switching over motors, suspension systems, interiors so why wouldn't a tranny swap be so far out there in my eyes? I didn't know and now i do. Just didn't want some ignorant negative person saying i can't do it cause i can't do it. Obviously, sometimes you can't avoid them. I think you want the noobs bowing to you, mr 10 thousand + posts. Sorry i can't post 10 thousand times and be as cool as you. Wish i had that life

 

i take offense to the "i guess maxima owners can't do it all"...because YOU are a maxima owner. YOU/WE can do it all if you/we want to.

we have seasoned members tell you that it's not doable...but you don't believe them. you almost sounded disapointed that it won't work and you wish it did work....and coming out telling us that maxima owner's can't do it all is just wrong.

yeah you also wish your car's transmission would work too...but i guess today is not your day.

after all that the only thing you can pick on is my participation on the forum? is that the best you can do? if you're going to come at me you're going to need to do much better than my participation on the forum. i won't stoop to your level of insults so i'll take the high road and let it go.

nope i don't want anyone to bow to me because that's not what it's about. maybe you're just too new here to not understand that. it's a called a community for a reason.

 

Since you have the parts laying around you should search for pics of VG crank/flexplates etc that are related to the tranny swap. Then look at your parts, your wallet and decide if its worth the money to swap it in. Your going to need to know some that that knows that they are doing or it will break.

Then once you have that done, you may or may not have issues with the VG tranny computer not working right with the VE tranny. Have fun with that wiring....

Or you could put that money tword rebuilding the VG tranny at a GOOD (not cheap as possible) shop, and invest in synthetic ATF and a good cooler. Then you'll have a reliable tranny again.

Then theres the 5 speed swap option. Which for what its worth, you can use a MT from either engine, and the VE-5 is stronger and has a VLSD.

~Alex

 

So, I don't want to do 2 things
1. don't want to put org members against each other with what i'm going to do
2. don't want to dig up old threads, but i will since nobody is looking at this anymore, and it's better than posting a new thread

So, I'm in the business to do a VLSD (or should it be LSD) 5spd swap and it seems there's a conflict I found.

I found this: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=387874 and Matt93SE (not to put him on the spot...) says VE tranny to VG is a bolt-on, post#17

In this thread I'm hearing that it's not possible, and all makes sense.

Did I miss something? it'd make the best sense to just swap in the VE beefier tranny, yah?

 

I read the post #17 but not the context, no need. Here is an answer to your question. You are talking about auto (this thread) versus manual tranny (link you posted). Autos will not interchange as Wayne articulated earlier in this thread.

The manual tranny does not have the same issue given the starter is the same and flywheel diameters are the same. Since the starters are the same (and bolt up in the same place) for the manual, then you can swap a VE tranny into a VG engine or vise versa......although it should be a crime to but a VG tranny into a VE (guilty!). What is required is that you use the axles and hubs for that same transmission. For some, sourcing and having the finances to purchase the parts is too much, but it's really not that expensive and is easy to do.

 

5-speed swap is the only way to go...

 

just want to make sure I understand...
VE5 into a car with VG5 is ok
VE5 into a car with VGauto is not possible?

 

Cliff's Notes:
you can put a VE 5 spd tranny on any VG or VE as long as you move over some other parts as well (axles, hubs, some wiring, etc)

You can NOT swap a VE auto tranny onto a VG. (it's probably possible in some way shape or form, but the electronics will be a major hassle.) you'd be better off installing a VE 5 spd instead of a VE auto.

 

Ok, VE5, here I come... maybe in 2010? (because I don't have workspace, I'll need to get my finances together to get GOOD tools and not tools from CSK, I'll need my spares car)

Thanks guys.

 

you may want to get the parts now and keep them stored. as our cars get older, it becomes harder to find good condition major swap parts for them. if you can get a good VE tranny and axles and hubs now, and maybe some of the clutch-related hardware, that might be a good idea. you can wait on getting a clutch kit until you are ready for the swap tho.

 

I know this answer is somewhere, but please entertain me... on just parts alone, how much do will it roll up to?
When storing stuff like an open tranny, axles, etc., what are some precautions to avoid rust or what I call "stale" deterioration?

Should I get the tranny serviced while it's still out of the car?

Thanks!

*edit*
To OP, sorry for jacking

 

Cost really depends on where you source the parts from. If you go through like International Auto Parts, then you'll pay around $1200 just for the tranny. If you can find a 5sp max with a blown engine, then you can get everything you need for $300. I'd suggest looking at the local junk yards for a car that has all the parts and negotiate with them.

As far has having the tranny serviced while out, that would be a good idea. Find a competent tranny shop and have them look at it, may cost about $100 depending on where you live for them to inspect it, but could be worth the peice of mind.

As far as storage of items, nothing comes to mind other than keep stuff covered so dirt/dust/debris/moisture do not infect critical areas such as the opening on the tranny for the axles or the resourvior on the clutch master cylinder. Don't know if there's much you can do about the flywheel if you get it, just have it resourfaced before installing, which you should have done anyway.

Given I'm not as familiar with the auto to manual swap, I'm not sure about the wiring issues, but I do recall you will need a manual ecu.....which float around the forums often.

 

no you won't.. you'd need an auto ECU if you swapped from manual to auto (why??!?!?!?!!) but not from auto to manual.

 

actually on the VE a/t to VG the main issue is the flywheel and starter don't engage one another.
more info: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=331646

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...86&postcount=6

 

Good, thanks for the clarification. Mark that one off the parts list!

 

No need to mark it off the list... my goal = entire 3gen VE5, so I'll have it anyhow...

So far, cheapest VE5 in my area is $1K. But the thing is the engine still working and registered and smogged, etc.

The reason I want a working VE5 is so that I can "move" it without needing to tow it around. I don't think I'll be able to do the work at my house as the garage is small and I don't have all those jacks, etc.

 

if your goal is a VE5, then sell the car you've got and buy a VE5. easier to sign some papers and get a new car than it is to make a VG something it wasn't meant to be from the factory.

 

Aww Matt, common. That attitude never got anyone anywhere. If thats the case then putting the VE5 on my VG is a mistake I'm glad I made.